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--here's a possible for you. Note, I am not claiming this is *true facts* but it's a possible. Now jiss suppose that there's a tad more to this war than 'fighting terrorists". With osmama and yomomma and muamarmama and those gents deceased, and if it become widely known and the evidence for it overwhelming, then the talibans just might have given up fighting a long time ago, and the 'war' would have petered out. By keeping the deaths of the various taliban al queda leaders a secret, the war gets promoted, all the way into this "it'll never end" scenario, "generations" and 'we now need all these new and improved emergency powers and acts" and etc.etc. etc. and if you 'don't agree' you are a 'terrorist" by default and official US decree. This has happened already, saw it on the teevee meself.

A possibility here, nothing more. History is replete with similar whoppers promoted officially, where a situation gets exploited to the max, the classic example is the reichstagg fire, a closer in time example is the OKC "attack". How about the columbine kid shooting fiasco? that's another good 'event" to point to. Gulf of tonkin "attack", another classic example.

Personally, I pay little attention to the words spoken by politicians and political partys, I take note, I listen, but never forget they always need a translation. Governments do not speak a language other than 'govspeak", all of them, all the time. I speak "english", they speak 'govspeak" and use "blacks law guild dictionary" words and definitions, not any dictionary most normal people use. Certainly not webster's, that's for sure.

I look at what actually happens over time with all these various politicians,and political party's. Long term past historical results which can be looked at and verified conclusively today, and what they "said" back then, can be compared to today's acts and words, and then extrapolated somewhat well into the future, to see what's coming down the road.

So far, it stinks. it stinks what happened, IMO, it stunk when the setup was happening for years and years with the no borders and unlimited trade and support and propping up various international badguys. I know I was loud in speaking out against it over the years, because I knew it would lead to terrorist attacks being very possible and probable. No, didn't 'exactly" predict 9-11, but certainly did predict one of the top 5 or so metro cities would get nailed within a few years, and it's happened, despite all the protest to the contrary by the pro unlimited immigration and pro-trade with badguy regime folks. They were,, and are, wrong. I haven't forgotten who was in favor of that scene, and it all certainly wasn't all completely nobody else at all whatsoever than 'clinton", either. Nope, just a few more folks than that I think.

Rewarding that past behavior by those various people and applauding the results is a 'bad idea". Taking an absymal collasal failure that the wtc attacks represent, and allowing them to hold themselves up as some sort of galactic hero for being part of the long standing 'bad ideas" is short sighted and misguided, again, IMO. And giving them even "more" of that? Hmm, no thankee.

Again, just one guys observations, and a few questions, that's all it is.