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Gun Play (anti-gunner admits to lying)
NY Times Magazine ^ | September 30, 2001 | Randy Cohen

Posted on 10/22/2001 10:17:40 AM PDT by tdadams

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So, we not only see that those who are anti-gun lie to promote their agenda, but the anti-gun columnists like Randy Cohen justifies it with an "ends justifies the means" arrogance... the civic good it achieves B.S.

And not only is lying OK in this war against guns, but the typically civic-rights-minded NY Times seems to endorse snooping on your neighbors by inquiring of their friends and other neighbors. Real neighborly!

1 posted on 10/22/2001 10:17:40 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: tdadams
No, he's actually saying not to lie in this case. Read it again. Of course, his message is still gun control bilge.

On this topic, in case anybody has been avoiding his friendly neighborhood gun store lately in case the prices are up and the stocks are down, fear not. People are trading in interesting things to buy up to better guns and the shelves were full at my local. I bought a nice cheap little Makarov in solidarity with our Russian comrades.

2 posted on 10/22/2001 10:33:10 AM PDT by Ratatoskr
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To: tdadams
I for one would welcome the: "Do you have a gun in your house?" question.

Not all liberals wear their disloyalty to the Constitution on their sleeve. Some of them make an effort to 'pass' as normal, decent people by minimizing discussion of things political.

Sure, you'll eventually discover their criminality, but I'm of the mind that sooner is a lot better than later in such cases.

The gun question allows you to reply: "Oh, so you're involved in treason eh? Tell you what sport, we don't hobnob with traitors in this household. You need to keep yourself and your kid(s) off my property from now on."

Cut the bastards off. Just like that. No appeal, no compromise, no accommodation.

3 posted on 10/22/2001 10:36:45 AM PDT by DWSUWF
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To: tdadams
because a relative of ours was injured in a gun accident, we do not allow our children to be in homes where guns are kept

A relative of mine was injured in a cooking accident, so I won't allow my children to be in homes where stoves or knives are kept.

Don't even get me started on those dangerous automobiles...

4 posted on 10/22/2001 10:42:22 AM PDT by Britton J Wingfield
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To: DWSUWF
I like it. Too bad I'll never be able to use it.

Some folks just don't make it through OUR screening...

After evening services a month ago, our pastor brought out a WWII Japanese rifle. Looked to be 6.0 or 6.5mm; cocked on closing.

Nobody at our church doesn't have guns in the house; at least none that have owned up to it.

5 posted on 10/22/2001 10:46:18 AM PDT by packrat01
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To: tdadams
If my daughter goes over to stay at someone's house, I'd like to know they have the means of protecting her on hand should someone try to break in...
6 posted on 10/22/2001 10:48:48 AM PDT by Viet Vet in Augusta GA
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To: tdadams
Where hunting is popular, its practitioners are unembarrassed by their zooicidal urges ...Pass the salt.
7 posted on 10/22/2001 10:48:51 AM PDT by rface
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To: packrat01
btt
8 posted on 10/22/2001 10:49:32 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: tdadams
My wife and I take a much more rational approach. Our son knows simply that if a friend's parents are not home, he may NOT be in their house. AND, we are not at home, he may NOT have friends in our house. It's pretty much the standard rule for our neighborhood.
9 posted on 10/22/2001 10:49:36 AM PDT by Ward Smythe
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To: rface
Where hunting is popular, its practitioners are unembarrassed by their zooicidal urges ...Pass the salt.

People Eating Tasty Animals

10 posted on 10/22/2001 10:54:55 AM PDT by 6ppc
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To: tdadams
Gee, if I found myself in this predicament I would calmly answer, "a few years ago an armed intruder broke in and butchered my grandmother and her pet, and I was unarmed", and I would pat them on the arm and continue... "I swore that I would never allow that to happen again, and now I keep a firearm loaded and handy to protect my family and friends. I am sorry that this offends you and makes you pee your pants."
"Have a nice day"

Of course it's not true, but how do you deal with sensitive people whom you can never believe?

11 posted on 10/22/2001 10:54:59 AM PDT by Publius6961
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To: tdadams
Kinda like the Taliban and the Jihadists... lying to the infidels is hunky-dory, as long as Allah's plan (killing or converting us unwashed heathen) is successfully promoted.
12 posted on 10/22/2001 10:56:14 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: tdadams
The proper reply would be:

As a matter of fact, I keep a number of firearms in my house. Some are kept in the gun cabinet, and I keep one gun in a bedside drawer for self-defense. Since you asked, can I assume your child will be going through all my personal effects? Did you teach him/her to stay out of places where they don't belong? More importantly, are you saying you can't trust your child to leave MY gun where they found it? Maybe your child doesn't belong in my home after all.

13 posted on 10/22/2001 11:00:13 AM PDT by NittanyLion
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To: tdadams
To liberals, the ends always justify the means.
14 posted on 10/22/2001 11:09:36 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: tdadams
Of course the hoplophobe is lying! Why wouldn't he lie? Gun control requires lies since no one in their right mind would acquiesce to the hoplophobes' demands if their true motivations were known. Gun conrol isn't about public safety; it's about public control. Those who push gun control are far more concerned with quelling dissent than they are with public safety. Of course, they can't just say something like that. Even the most placid of Americans would rise up in anger at such a thing. Instead, the ruse of public safety is used. This liar was just doing on the small scale what Sarah Brady, Chucky Schumer, Hillary(!), and Gray Davis do writ large.
15 posted on 10/22/2001 11:16:08 AM PDT by Redcloak
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To: NittanyLion
Good reply.
.. I would probably add, " I also shoot to wound when my little yard apes misbehave. Haven't actually killed one..Yet!"
16 posted on 10/22/2001 11:20:10 AM PDT by Drammach
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To: tdadams
No problem...when anyone asks if we have guns in the house, I lie too.

Lies by omission that is..."I don't think guns and children mix."
17 posted on 10/22/2001 11:30:51 AM PDT by Maelstrom
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To: tdadams; *bang_list
"unembarrassed by their zooicidal urges"

It's darned hard to shoot those critters at long range without a chance of hitting the bars!

18 posted on 10/22/2001 11:35:32 AM PDT by Jerry_M
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To: mike2right
"My wife and I take a much more rational approach. Our son knows simply that if a friend's parents are not home, he may NOT be in their house. AND, we are not at home, he may NOT have friends in our house. It's pretty much the standard rule for our neighborhood."

There is one thing that you have seemed to overlook in regards to your solution, and that is:......It actually makes sense. And so it will be a totally alien concept to those suffering from the mental disorder of liberalism.

19 posted on 10/22/2001 11:47:13 AM PDT by semaj
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To: Britton J Wingfield
I was cut working with sheet metal a couple of times, and sometimes get burns from welding! We'd better ban steel in all it's forms!
20 posted on 10/22/2001 11:48:44 AM PDT by angry beaver norbert
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