FBI Considers Torture As Suspects Stay Silent

The Times (UK) ^ | 10-22-2001 | Damian Whitworth

[Terrorista Nada]

"Torture is unconstitutional and illegal to boot..."

Don't torture the ones who are U.S. citizens and have Constitional rights and legal protections. Do whatever it takes to the rest who are not covered by our Constitution and laws to get the information. This is war.

[yoe]

Take them across the Mexican border and go to work!

Watch and listen to this:

http://www.ou.org/audio/video/jihad.ram

[LibWhacker]

OK, but when they start torturing "terrorist" gun owners and pro lifers, don't come crying to me.

Well, duh. If pro lifers ever begin to murder indiscriminantly thousands of innocent people (you tell me . . . is this gonna happen?), acquiring weapons of mass destruction, calling for the death of all Americans, we should torture them.

You get three guesses as to why we do not have to worry about this eventuality.

[delapaz]

Very true, also, sensory deprivation will do the trick.

[PatrioticAmerican]

Beat 'em with a bible until they submit. ;>

[COL. FLAGG]

Hey Travis, I'm with you all the way.

If anyone has ANY doubt that we should use sadistic methods if neccessary to exact information from these monsters needs to take another look at the picture on post #6. Something similar could be coming to a city near you.

American investigators are considering resorting to harsher interrogation techniques, including torture......"

"the usual methods have failed to persuade any of them to talk"

Good God, this is a pathetic situation. I can't believe this. We should have been torturing them about three weeks ago.These fiends should not be sent to any other country. It's time to throw out ACLU standards and get medieval. Our very survivial may be at stake.

[Nateman]

There are a few problems with torture:

• It energizes the enemy to fight harder against you and much less likely to surrender.
• It provides an opening for doing it to others. Who's next besides terrorists? Eventually, anybody who says anything bad against the current government. Would you have trusted Clinton with such a power?
• You may be doing the torture to an innocent person.
• This is a moral war. This will end with the first reported case of torture, and will fracture the unity of your own side.

That's not to say we don't have subtle means of persuasion that will only frighten a wacko Moslem. Such as only offering the prisoners pigs milk to drink and pork products to eat. Let them know if they die from a hunger strike you will embalm with pig blood.

[dcwusmc]

WHICH protections and WHERE does the Constitution allow this to happen? (hint: NOWHERE and NONE...)

[Hildy]

I say we get that John Moran to take care of them.

[VA Advogado]

I think we should play like the Russians did in the cold war. These people just disappear, never to be seen from or heard from again.

Just like they do it in Arkansas. :)

[delapaz]

in light of the subject matter this is very interesting.

[VA Advogado]

If our NATO allies can lend a hand with AWACS, perhaps the ROKs could loan us a few professional interrogators.

I know firsthand how bad those ROK rangers are! You got a great idea.

[DanDDynamo]

Good cop bad cop: "I'm afraid our time is about up... You aren't going to INSIST on going on with this, are you?"

With the Germans waiting outside.

[Chapita]

I remember seeing a guy strapped to a plank which was on a 30 degree angle. Forehead duct taped to the plank - mouth duct taped shut.

A ROK NCO was standing next to him with a warm coke in his hand.

The coke was shaken up then fizzed into his nostrils.

He was told to blink his eyes TWICE when he was ready to talk.

[LibWhacker]

WHICH protections and WHERE does the Constitution allow this to happen? (hint: NOWHERE and NONE...)

Hint: Precedent. For example, what's happened to habeas corpus in past wars?

[pagan baby]

yea,especsially that one where she moans&groans thru the whole freekin" record,givin' childbirth if im not mistaken

[MissAmericanPie]

No need to torture them, doesn't sodium penathol make people talk? Ok, ok, torture them for fun, then check their info against sodium penathol.

[DuncanWaring]

just don't let them sleep; within ten days they will tell you what you need to know, so keep a good translator handy round the clock after the fourth day;

I ran afoul of this "sleep deprivation" thing in the SERE school.

It won't take four days.

[Lurker]

Try reading the 8th Amendment.

Amendment VIII Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Sorry my friend, but I am not willing to become what it is we are fighting.

The difference between folks like 'us' and folks like 'them' is that we have rules and we take those rules seriously.

While I agree that tearing out a few fingernails, inserting red hot steel rods into some genitals, and applying bamboo shoots under some fingernails may be emotionally satisfying in the short term, such actions are extremely dangerous in the long term.

L