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Citizen Army/Citizen Alert
Self ^ | 10/21/2001 | MHGinTN

Posted on 10/21/2001 10:47:13 AM PDT by MHGinTN

Okay, it's time to get active, Freepers! As Lazamataz has said, 'We are 50,000 strong and a force to be reckoned with.'

He's right, ya know. We are a well connected army of eyes and ears. Here's a few things we can do in this war against terrorists in our country.

First, always take a camera with you when you leave the house to go shopping, take the kids to functions, go to work, in short, whenever you're going to be in the public sector. Why? Because a call to the FBI is one thing, but a call with photographs to document your story is far more with which the FBI or local law enforcement can work.

'Well,' you might say, 'Someone else is doing this, so I don't need to.' No, you and I are the someone else! This is our country. The FBI is under staffed, and I would prefer it stay that way. That means they can use some help in information gathering ... let them do the contact work, while we gather the data, and the better the data the better the contact potentials.

'Okay,' you might say, 'I'll take pictures if I see something my antenna says is suspicious, but what the heck do I do with that?' Well, don't just take pix, make a diary-type reference to your reason for taking the pix. Also, be mindful of things like tag numbers and any identifying characteristics you might see and/or record with the camera. It is a well know fact that witnesses don't remember as well as a 'frozen segment of time', a photograph.

You might wonder which citizens are the most likely to see suspicious things that a camera would help to nail, and I would answer everyone who goes into the public sector has the potential to see something suspicious. We Freepers could be more observant and more conscientious in our alert, and thus it might just be that we Freepers would have the camera and the foresight to record in pix and word what we and others see that is suspicious. Let's not leave it to someone else; let's take the initiative to be the ones doing the data collecting; I keep the FBI hotline number hanging from my puter desk, and I've used it once already.

Lastly, I say also go armed; if your state has a concealed carry permit, get one and learn to handle a personal defense weapon ... with the emphasis on personal defense, not law enforcement; the professionals are still our best resource when time permits; we're talking about collecting data, not killing suspects. The major emphasis ought be to collect data for the professionals who are over-worked and under-staffed for this crisis. It is our country, and we ought think enough of it to at least upgrade our alert status ... we are the eyes and ears of this nation's security on the domestic front.

If we expect our law enforcement people to be proactive instead of merely reactive, we have to give them the data to work with! Terrorist plan their strikes, sometimes for months or years. Until our national policy is wholesale deportation, we must be more alert to the planners and plotters, and we can do that without violating civil rights while asserting our responsibilities as citizens. Besides, if we expect people to be deported, it doesn't hurt to have pictures and descriptions of suspicious activity when the authorities get around to picking the deportees ... if loose lips sink ships, sharp eyes save lives.

I keep reading about how the Islamic community isn't supporting the terrorists, but until the Muslims of America begin to turn in the radicals, siditious, miscreants and criminals amongst them, we the people must get active in our own defense ... cameras with explanation of pictures is a great way to do it. I'm certain the Freeper family will now post FBI, CIA, and NSA phone numbers that can be used for contact when suspicious activity is seen and recorded. I would rather be mistaken 100 times and right one vital time than uninvolved and totally vulnerable. How about you, fellow Freeper?


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To: Travis McGee
We can't see you. You could be a spitting image of Yassar Assofat for all we know. Where did your family originate?
101 posted on 10/22/2001 10:20:16 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: MHGinTN
Thanks for the post. It's a great idea. Another great idea is to form neighborhood watch groups and become involved with helping defend your own local turf. Our group meets montly and it really helps bring all of us together as a neighborhood. Know thy neighbor.
Your Freeper-in-law
Uncle Sham
102 posted on 10/22/2001 10:26:20 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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To: Uncle Sham
Not only a good idea to have neighborhood watch meetings, but a great way to further community, of late the parent of the dying art of citizenship!
103 posted on 10/22/2001 10:35:14 AM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: Marine Inspector
Ping.
104 posted on 10/22/2001 10:38:51 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Imagine if someone had snapped a photo of Atta having lunch last year with a few moslem arabs who are still at large, and unknown?

Hang out with the liberals at the Middle Eastern restaurants - I did this with my girl friend and wish I had a camera at the time. Three very loud arrogant Middle Eastern guys came in all wearing new looking matching leather jackets. They all looked similar to the animals in FBI poster. A picture of this crew would be useful if one of them turned up on future FBI posters.

Middle Eastern restaurants ought to be a rich source of associations. Most customers are families and others that don't standout much. But the few that do really are obvious. If you want to find them, you have to go were they are.

I'm trying to imagine our government allowing foreigners from Germany and Japan to enter our country on green cards during the WWII. If we declared war, why are we allowing the enemy to walk among us? Why haven’t all non-citizens from terrorist harboring countries been told to leave?!

105 posted on 10/22/2001 10:54:24 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: Travis McGee
Imagine if someone had snapped a photo of Atta having lunch last year with a few moslem arabs who are still at large, and unknown?

Hang out with the liberals at the Middle Eastern restaurants - I did this with my girl friend and wish I had a camera at the time. Three very loud arrogant Middle Eastern guys came in all wearing new looking matching leather jackets. They all looked similar to the animals in FBI poster. A picture of this crew would be useful if one of them turned up on future FBI posters.

Middle Eastern restaurants ought to be a rich source of associations. Most customers are families and others that don't standout much. But the few that do really are obvious. If you want to find them, you have to go were they are.

I'm trying to imagine our government allowing foreigners from Germany and Japan to enter our country on green cards during the WWII. If we declared war, why are we allowing the enemy to walk among us? Why haven’t all non-citizens from terrorist harboring countries been told to leave?!

106 posted on 10/22/2001 10:55:37 AM PDT by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
It is amazing, like having German Nazi SS Stormtroopers coming over on "student visas" in 1942.

Our cameras need to be put to maximum use!

107 posted on 10/22/2001 11:10:29 AM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
BUMP, fer shur!
108 posted on 10/22/2001 12:00:59 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Rebump.
109 posted on 10/22/2001 12:26:01 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: papagall
PING
110 posted on 10/22/2001 1:28:35 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: RevNan
WV is VERY close to where some of those suspected with aiding and abetting the 9/11 terrorists lived. There were several (I've seen everything from 14 to 25 in the newspapers) who were LIVING in Middlesboro, KY at an apartment complex near the hospital! They were apprehended, finally, somewhere in the northern part of KY (made the Louisville and Middlesboro papers).
111 posted on 10/22/2001 1:42:11 PM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: MHGinTN
Here's one from Nashville:

I work on the ground floor of a building that sits directly behind the building where Sen. Fred Thompson's office and the local FBI offices are located. About 2 1/2 weeks ago, two middle-eastern men WALKED into our parking lot, came up under the awning on the front of our building, pulled out a map and began leaning forward to look and point towards the building next door. This went on for three or four minutes before someone from our office finally walked outside and inquired whether he could be of some assistance. One of the middle-eastern man turned to our co-worker and said, "No, we just lost". They then hurriedly walked back the way they had come!! We called the FBI and were given another phone number to call if these guys ever show back up.

It was probably nothing but, we felt better after having followed up on it as well as we could.

113 posted on 10/22/2001 1:50:21 PM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: Manny Festo; MHGinTN; patent; Lent; FITZ
This thread by MHG pretty much covered what I meant to do, and now I am going back into "lurker mode" while I get back on track to finish my RKBA novel, which is now re-formatted somewhat to deal with the post 9-11 realities.
114 posted on 10/22/2001 2:00:34 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: Travis McGee
Sounds good to me, but I have to be carefull because of my job with INS. I already get alot of heat from the sups. My only saving grace is that I'm vested and a Vet.
115 posted on 10/22/2001 2:17:44 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: Travis McGee
Do you mean strick, cold turkey lurker mode? You'll miss us, get the shakes, and come running back. Weeeellll be waiting. Just one post, really, you can stop anytime. ;-)

patent

116 posted on 10/22/2001 2:18:07 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
Turkey lurker?... LOL
117 posted on 10/22/2001 6:22:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
Wow, looking at my post I suddenly realize how many mistakes one can pack into one line. Strick? turkey lurker should be cold turkey, lurker mode, etc. Oh well.
118 posted on 10/22/2001 6:44:59 PM PDT by patent
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To: patent
I can stop after just this one more bump, really I can!
119 posted on 10/22/2001 7:11:19 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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To: MHGinTN
I can stop after just this one more bump, really I can!

No you can't! Here's one more bump.

120 posted on 10/22/2001 7:30:23 PM PDT by ConservativeLawyer
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