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US Anthrax is `military grade'
TaipiTimes & London Guardian & BBC ^ | October 19, 2001 | Guardian & Other News Staffs

Posted on 10/19/2001 2:22:16 PM PDT by t-shirt

US anthrax is `military grade'

London Guardian

October 19, 2001

QUALITY GERMS: Biological weapons experts say that terrorists could not possibly have made the type of anthrax seen in the US without some form of state-level help

Anthrax of the grade involved in the US Senate attack could not have been manufactured by terrorist organizations without some form of state-level help, leading biological weapons experts said on Wednesday. Scientists believe that the enormous complexities involved in producing the sort of "military grade" material US official say was found in senator Tom Daschle's office offer compelling evidence that the attack was state sponsored.

The term "military grade" means that the spores had been dried and milled down to a size of between one and five microns -- the crucial range for anthrax to become an effective weapon.

Any bigger than five microns, and the spores get stuck in the victim's nasal passages and are not capable of being suspended in the air; any smaller than one micron and the intended victims would exhale it.

Jonathan Ban, a research associate at the Chemical and Biological Arms Control Institute in Washington, said: "If the anthrax is between one and five microns, then that is the traditional route which states have gone down to develop anthrax as a militarily efficient biological weapon.

"That raises the possibility of some state sponsorship, perhaps not in the normal sense of a government allowing the transfer of biological agents, but maybe by individuals within government or weapons programs leaking the material."

Producing weapons-grade anthrax is incredibly difficult, according to Ban, the author of a report on bioterrorism for the US center for disease control in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks.

First, the would-be users would have to acquire a suitably virulent strain of anthrax to use as the agent. This would have not only have to be potent enough to infect people and reproduce in their systems, it would also have to be stable enough to stand up to the manufacturing process.

Next, they would have to create the right conditions for growing the spores. Normally, they are grown in a wet slurry form, and it is extremely difficult to get the concentrations right. Even then, the manufacturers would need specialist equipment, such as bioregulators and formentors, to regulate oxygen levels, temperature and PH. Most of these are commercially available, although the supply of some is restricted.

After growth, the next hurdle would be to remove the agent from the wet slurry using a freeze drying process. Again the equipment is commercially available, but the process would require some expertise to avoid damaging the agent.

It is the next step, however, that is most important and most difficult: milling the dried spores down to the right size for inhalation infection to occur. The same equipment used in the manufacture of powdered drinks and flavorings could be utilized at this stage.

They would have to establish an airflow system to ensure that the spores cannot escape while being milled, or wear bulky protective suits which in turn would make the manufacturing process more tricky.

Scott Ritter, who used to inspect weapons in Iraq for the UN, agreed. "If this is anthrax which has been milled down to the one to five micron size ... then we have a problem because this shows that this is more than just people accessing routine stocks of vaccine quality or laboratory research quality anthrax and mailing it about," he told BBC Radio 4's Today program on Wednesday.

Investigators face an uphill struggle in establishing which state the anthrax may have originated from.

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Friday, 19 October, 2001, 18:08 GMT 19:08 UK

US anthrax strains the same

BBC

Seven people have been infected and 38 exposed

Tests have shown that strains of anthrax sent to NBC in New York, the Sun tabloid in Florida and to the Senate in Washington could have come from the same source. The revelation, from US Homeland Security Chief Tom Ridge, came as it was confirmed that a woman working for the New York Post had contracted the skin form of the disease.

A statement by the newspaper's publisher said the employee - the seventh US victim - was "already regarded as cured".

Speaking at a White House press conference, Mr Ridge said: "I wish I could tell you that we've seen the end of it, but we obviously are preparing for more.

"That's why we've decided to increase the supply of the antibiotics and that's why we are pursuing every lead as aggressively as possible."

Worker tracked

The White House has yet to name a suspect for the anthrax attacks.

"I do not have knowledge of a direct link of the anthrax incidents to the enemy, but I wouldn't put it past them," President George W Bush said at a press conference in China.

Federal investigators have been focusing on the route of a postal worker from Trenton, New Jersey, where two letters containing anthrax originated, who has also contracted the disease.

According to the New York Times, the tainted letters sent to Senator Tom Daschle and NBC news announcer Tom Brokaw were sent from a 1.6 sq km area of West Trenton, where some hijackers and suspected members of al-Qaeda lived.

With anthrax-lined letters being sent abroad, no country feels safe

The infected New York Post employee is the fourth case of anthrax in New York City - all involving media companies.

At least 38 people have been exposed to the bacteria.

According to TV station WNYW, which is affiliated to the New York Post, no other cases of anthrax were found in the News Corp building, which houses the New York Post and the headquarters of Fox News.

All three major TV networks in New York City, the New York Post, the Capitol Hill complex in Washington and a tabloid newspaper company in Florida have now become sites of anthrax infection.

Outside America, the Kenyan Government said four people had been exposed to anthrax bacteria in a letter posted from the US and in Argentina another letter posted from the US was being urgently tested.

Taleban denial

Earlier on Friday, the Taleban ambassador to Pakistan denied any link to the anthrax attacks in the US.

We don't even know what it is

Taleban envoy Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef said the Afghan movement did not even know what anthrax was.

FBI director Robert Mueller said the US was offering $1m for information on who was behind the anthrax attacks.

The US postal service is sending cards to every home and business - 147 million addresses - telling people how to deal with suspicious post.

Successful treatment

The British CBS employee who tested positive - an assistant to news anchor Dan Rather - was being treated with antibiotics and expected to make a full recovery.

Health authorities and emergency services in New York complained they were being swamped by nervous members of the public demanding nasal swabs and doctors were urged not to prescribe the antibiotic Ciprofloxacin - used to treat anthrax - without good medical reasons.

The drug's main manufacturer, Bayer, announced it would treble production.

Professor Harry Smith, Birmingham University "There's no evidence that this comes from Iraq" The BBC is not responsible for the content of external internet sites


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To: HoweverComma
"Quick question: how hard is it to dry and mill something down to 1-5 microns? Any FReepers out there know this?"

Given the fact that the size of a single spore is approximately 1 micron, this means milling each particle down to the practically the size of a single spore. It is hard to do that without 1) the particle just clumping together again once you stop grinding and (more importantly) 2) contaminating everything in sight, inccluding yourself, while you do it - unless you have very expensive containment equipment.

21 posted on 10/19/2001 3:06:15 PM PDT by FairWitness
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To: FairWitness
If vaccinated however, he could mill with impunity -- ???
22 posted on 10/19/2001 3:27:16 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: copycat
Even if so, I wouldn't put it past them to try to get huge amounts of the stuff into this country, if not directly from Iraq then just keeping their hand cranked operation going day and night everywhere they possibly can.
23 posted on 10/19/2001 3:29:12 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: HiTech RedNeck
"If vaccinated however, he could mill with impunity -- ???"

Interesting conjecture. Obviously you can generate antibodies against bacteria, but I have never thought about being "vaccinated" against a bacterium.

24 posted on 10/19/2001 3:35:59 PM PDT by FairWitness
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To: t-shirt
Iraq is behind this without a doubt.
25 posted on 10/19/2001 3:43:11 PM PDT by RickyJ
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To: TomB
I saw a report on 20/20-Primetime about the Soviet release of anthrax in '79 and Diane Sawyer showed how much was released, about the size of teaspoon and it killed about many people plus animals for about 3-4 miles from the release site. So, if that little amount was so deadly, why is the anthrax we are experiencing not as deadly? The anthrax in FL and DC was of the small 1-5 microns. Why do they down play it? The way I think about it is, we just found out it was anthrax quick and have been able to get meds into our systems. If the Dr. in FL had not found it right away we may have had many more deaths.
26 posted on 10/19/2001 4:03:37 PM PDT by BearPaw1
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To: t-shirt
Somebody has got their head up their butt here. Military grade anthrax would not be leaving people with "exposure" contamination. All the people who came in contact with it would be "INFECTED". End of discussion.
27 posted on 10/19/2001 4:07:47 PM PDT by B4Ranch
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To: TomB
"If this stuff is so potent and was obviously produced by a state, why didn't they bother to make it antibiotic resistant?"

Making a bacteria resistant to antibiotics is not done by wishing it were so or using the right kind of milling equipment or by employing the proper drying conditions. This requires a whole different set of expertise which hopefully the Iraqis do not yet have.

On the positive side, researchers in the US are now able to determine exactly what confers antibiotic resistance to these "bugs" and are now trying to design antibiotics which will work when all others fail.

Of course we should do all we can to reign in these "greedy" pharma outfits before their research saves any more lives (/sarcasm).

28 posted on 10/19/2001 4:43:31 PM PDT by Boss_Jim_Gettys
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To: t-shirt
I really think the Anthrax scare is of domestic origins, and not from a foreign government. What perfect timing--everyone's attention is on the 9-11 attack.
29 posted on 10/19/2001 6:00:02 PM PDT by Angelique
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To: FairWitness
Part I--sounds hard. Part II: suppose you didn't give a hoot about being contaminated--like suppose you were seeking martyrdom?
30 posted on 10/19/2001 6:09:09 PM PDT by HoweverComma
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To: B4Ranch
Military grade anthrax would not be leaving people with "exposure" contamination. All the people who came in contact with it would be "INFECTED". End of discussion.

I think you can add to that the fact that the "victims"are responding to regular run of the mill treatments for anthrax.(Only one death)

I would expect Military grade anthrax to have some components that would make it almost impossible to treat without going to exotic treatments. -Tom

31 posted on 10/19/2001 6:10:10 PM PDT by Capt. Tom
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To: TomB
Making it antibiotic resistant might take more TIME than they want--because they'd basically have to expose it to a bunch of different antibiotics while cultivating it.

And then making it antibiotic resistant might degrade its lethality or its contagiousness--the mutations needed to make it less susceptible might change other characteristics.

32 posted on 10/19/2001 6:12:00 PM PDT by HoweverComma
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33 posted on 10/19/2001 6:25:52 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Who is atta? I had an antibiotic just before 9-11.

I don't think any of our government had any part of this,.

As far as the NWO ...I think the CT's are behind that.

35 posted on 10/19/2001 9:03:22 PM PDT by karebare
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To: t-shirt
Taleban denial

Earlier on Friday, the Taleban ambassador to Pakistan denied any link to the anthrax attacks in the US.

We don't even know what it is.

Taleban envoy Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef Mullah Abdul Salam Zaeef said the Afghan movement did not even know what anthrax was.

Yeah right. They didn't know anything regarding the Sept. 11th terrorists attacks either! Bin Laden "professed his innocence" didn't know anything about it and had no idea how to carry out such a big and sophisticated operation. Just the other day on October 11th in a previously recorded video Bin Laden threatens new attacks.

From the BBC, October 11, 2001 - Excerpt:

Osama bin Laden's terrorist network yesterday issued a chilling threat of renewed hijackings and attacks on America as the US campaign entered a new and dangerous phase with ground troops poised to enter Afghanistan.

Afghanistan's Taliban rulers for the first time declared a jihad, or holy war, against the United States, while bin Laden's al Qaeda network warned of more attacks on America.

"There are thousands of young people who look forward to death like Americans look forward to life," said al Qaeda spokesman Sulaiman Bu Ghaith.

The new al Qaeda threats came as the US reinforced its troop build-up around Afghanistan, shifting the focus of the war against terrorism from air attacks to ground operations.

In a message broadcast by the al Jazeera Arab television network, based in the Gulf state of Qatar, the al Qaeda spokesman praised the September 11 attacks in New York and Washington and said plans were being mounted for further strikes in what appeared to be an admission of responsibility for the original attacks.

"Americans must know that the storm of air planes will not stop," he said. "Let America know that this battle will not leave its land until it exits our land, until they stop supporting the Jews and lift the unjust sanctions against Iraq."

The Taliban leadership reinforced the threat. Ending previous attempts to distance themselves from al Qaeda, the regime declared that bin Laden was now free to wage his holy war against the West.

"Jihad is an obligation on all Muslims around the world. We want this, bin Laden wants this and America will face the unpleasant consequences of their attacks," Taliban spokesman Abdul Hai Mutmaen told the BBC.

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36 posted on 10/19/2001 9:27:22 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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