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To: DouglasKC
This brings me to another huge question....aren't we supposed to follow the ten commandments?

Are you a Jew? If so, then the Ten Commandments would apply to you BEFORE you are born again, but once you are born again, you are freed from the Law, because Jesus paid the penalty for sin under the Law. When you are in Christ, you have passed from death to life, and are no longer under the Law, being dead with Christ. The Law has no hold on a dead man. You are alive in Christ, and freed from the law of sin and death.

Now, if you are a Gentile, then you never were under the Law, because the Law was only given to the Jews. However, even though not all men were under the Law, all suffer the penalty of death for sin, because that penalty, resulting from sin, precedes the Law. Jesus paid that price, thereby allowing Gentiles to enter in to God's family. Once again, if you are born again, you are dead as far as the penalty for sin, but alive in Christ. That is why Christ said that to enter the Kingdom of heaven, you must be born again.

4,150 posted on 10/30/2001 7:31:23 AM PST by nobdysfool
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To: nobdysfool
but once you are born again, you are freed from the Law, because Jesus paid the penalty for sin under the Law.

I'm sorry, but you just shouldn't say things like this. Especially to a new Christian! He can easily misunderstand this to mean that he is free to sin all he wants. You don't even make a passing reference to the fact that, while we are no longer under the Law, it remains as a goal, God's vision for how we should behave.

SD

4,153 posted on 10/30/2001 7:35:56 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: nobdysfool
If so, then the Ten Commandments would apply to you BEFORE you are born again, but once you are born again, you are freed from the Law, because Jesus paid the penalty for sin under the Law. When you are in Christ, you have passed from death to life, and are no longer under the Law, being dead with Christ.

So are you claiming that since the commandments no longer apply that it is ok for those born again to do the things forbidden by them?

4,154 posted on 10/30/2001 7:38:25 AM PST by Titanites
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To: nobdysfool
Mr. Fool

Are you a Jew? If so, then the Ten Commandments would apply to you BEFORE you are born again, but once you are born again, you are freed from the Law, because Jesus paid the penalty for sin under the Law. When you are in Christ, you have passed from death to life, and are no longer under the Law...,/P>

So does this mean that the whole discussion regarding graven images is mute and catholics are in the clear? Can Havoc contiue in painintng portraits? Can I pay a visit to my neibors wife :>) Or is it only the sabath that is effected(or is it affected I can never get that right).

4,448 posted on 10/31/2001 7:57:27 AM PST by Joyful Wisdom
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