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To: OLD REGGIE
Have you read the short and glorious reign of his predecessor Pope Clement V?

Another in the glorious history of the Popes.

Clement V was his successor to the papacy, not predecessor. I do not want to debate the merits and failings of every Pope. The Popes were and are sinners like the rest of us.

However, if you go back to my post #4056, you'll see that I think some claims have been made against Boniface VIII which may be false. Namely that he practiced sorcery, called Christ a hypocrite, professed atheism, denied life after death, was a murderer and sex pervert, was officially recorded as saying: "To enjoy oneself and lie carnally with woman or with boys is no more a sin than rubbing one's hands together."

There have been bad popes, but that doesn't give anyone the right to make false claims against them (especially from Christians on this thread). All I am looking for is the truth in the matter. If you have a reputable source for the above claims against Boniface VIII, I'd like to see it because everything I can find does not support those claims. Maybe he did these things, I don't know, but anytime someone takes the liberty to soil anothers character, they better be able to back it up.

4,123 posted on 10/30/2001 6:28:15 AM PST by Titanites
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To: Titanites
Concerning Pope Bonifaces's predecessor: My error. I meant to say "Celestine V".

Let me remind you, I posted from the Catholic Encyclopedia, hardly a negative source. Did you read that article? It is devastating enough.

You have a right to be insulted by "false" postings. I am sure you realize this goes both ways. If you post "false" information concerning the same Pope you are every bit as guilty as the person you accuse. Maybe it would be worthwhile for you to consider your own sources.
4,127 posted on 10/30/2001 6:49:13 AM PST by OLD REGGIE
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