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To: Iowegian
Pope Boniface VIII (1302 A.D.)

So, when the Greeks and others say that they were not committed to the care of Peter and his successors, they must confess that they are not of Christ’s sheep, even as the Lord says in John, ‘There is one fold and one shepherd’... Furthermore, that every human creature is subject to the Roman pontiff,—this we declare, say, define, and pronounce to be altogether necessary to salvation (From the Bull Unam Sanctam. Found in Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church (Grand Rapids: Eerdmans, 1910), Volume VI, pp. 25-27).

And here's what my information tells us about him:

*Practiced sorcery
*Called Christ a Hypocrite
*Professed atheism
*Denied life after death
*Was a murderer and Sex pervert
*Officially recorded as saying:"To enjoy oneself and lie carnally with woman or with boys is no more a sin than rubbing one's hands together."
*Last thing on the list "Unum Sanctum".

Always interesting to flesh out the people we're considering here as having any authority to speak. I'm sure I'll be screamed at by someone for posting this.

3,981 posted on 10/29/2001 7:11:57 PM PST by Havoc
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To: Havoc
Are you bored? Or just itching for a good fight? :)
3,989 posted on 10/29/2001 7:25:12 PM PST by the808bass
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To: Havoc
Pope Boniface VIII (1302 A.D.)

And here's what my information tells us about him:

*Practiced sorcery
*Called Christ a Hypocrite
*Professed atheism
*Denied life after death
*Was a murderer and Sex pervert
*Officially recorded as saying:"To enjoy oneself and lie carnally with woman or with boys is no more a sin than rubbing one's hands together."

OK, I'll bite. Please let us know where you are getting all this great and scholarly information. I sincerely hope you rely on a reputable source of history and not a source like www.antichrist.com => Bonfiace VIII.

You do know that all the tasteless charges noted above were accusations made by an enemy of his, King Philip IV of France, who was putting illegal levies on the Churches clergy, don't you? He made these charges while Boniface VIII was still alive to dethrone him, and after he was dead to ruin his reputation. However, if you read any reputable historical accounts (at least the ones I could find) you'll discover they are false.

I look forward to seeing your source.

4,056 posted on 10/29/2001 10:52:46 PM PST by Titanites
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To: Havoc
#3981
Where did you find this garbage ?
4,075 posted on 10/30/2001 4:17:01 AM PST by dadwags
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