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To: vmatt
Dude, I didn't misrepresent you. You said you were ignorant spiritually. I merely repeated that, and then stated my opinion that I would rather defer to 2000 years of Popes, Apostles, Church Fathers, Church Doctors, Saints, Mystics, and even Orthodox and Protestant writers on spiritual matters than someone who a) has been living for much less than 2000 years and b) considers themselves ignorant.

Next time, don't call yourself ignorant in public when trying to show how much smarter and superior you are.
3,347 posted on 10/28/2001 8:34:19 AM PST by Conservative til I die
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To: Conservative til I die
Next time, don't call yourself ignorant in public when trying to show how much smarter and superior you are.

I believe in admitting my weaknesses and limitations. If you put my words in context, something you have accused me of not doing, you would see that I also said everyone is ignorant to some extent. I have not tried to show anything about myself and am not superior to anyone. I care only what God thinks of me. Why don't we spend what time we have left attempting to find the truth?

3,350 posted on 10/28/2001 8:57:11 AM PST by vmatt
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To: Conservative til I die
(I)stated my opinion that I would rather defer to 2000 years of Popes, Apostles, Church Fathers, Church Doctors, Saints, Mystics, and even Orthodox and Protestant writers on spiritual matters than someone who a) has been living for much less than 2000 years and b) considers themselves ignorant.

Looks to me like you seek knowledge and understanding from any source but the One you should be seeking it from: Jesus Christ, the Lord, via the Holy Spirit. Of course, in order to do that, you must know Jesus intimately and personally and directly. Somehow, I don't think the Catholic Church is encouraging that. It's not a part of their established Dogma, as far as I've been able to discern. It wasn't until the 20th century that the Mass was conducted in a parishioner's native language, it was in Latin, which no one speaks on a daily basis. Also, I wasn't aware that one of the qualifications for acceptance of authority to speak on spiritual matters was a 2000 year life-span. That alone would invalidate any of your other sources, and leave you only with Jesus Christ as your basis of authority, which you obviously are not following.

God desires a personal relationship with each of His people. That's what Jesus died for, to reconcile us to God, so we could have fellowship with Him. Anything that puts something or someone between God and any of His people is not scriptural, and contrary to the teachings of Jesus, the Apostles, and the Word of God.

3,351 posted on 10/28/2001 9:05:39 AM PST by nobdysfool
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