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To: NATE4"ONE NATION"
You are so darned exactly literal!!!

Words mean things. Precision is important. You can't just make it say whatever you want it to say. The problem with so many of these so-called 'prophecies' of Jesus is that they don't make sense when read closely and in context.

31,850 posted on 03/05/2002 7:29:31 AM PST by malakhi
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To: angelo;vmatt
The problem with so many of these so-called 'prophecies' of Jesus is that they don't make sense when read closely and in context.

They sound exactly like this!:

Isaiah 13:10 - For the stars of the heavens and their constellations will not give their light; the sun will be dark at its rising and the moon will not shed its light. 11. I will punish the world for it's evil..."

Prophecy against babylon fulfilled by the Medo-Persians! Did these astrological events happen? Was it the "whole world" which was punished or the Babylonians? After all, Daniel interpreted this in a dream of Babylonia's king. They were kingdom 2 of 4.

Christ said this:
Matthew 24:29 - "Immediately after the tribulation of those days the sun will be darkened, and the moon will not give its light, and the stars will fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens will be shaken;

In the same manner, fulfilled by the Roman army, the 4th kingdom of Daniel.

Clouds:

Psalms 68:4 - Sing to God, sing praises to his name; lift up a song to him who rides upon the clouds; his name is the LORD, exult before him!

Jeremiah 4:13 - Behold, he comes up like clouds,
["like manner" (Acts 1)] his chariots like the whirlwind; his horses are swifter than eagles--woe to us, for we are ruined!

I will not post all of Christ's "coming in the clouds references, but THIS is the reason the High priest and Christ had this exchange:

Matt 26:63 But Jesus was silent. And the high priest said to him, "I adjure you by the living God, tell us if you are the Christ, the Son of God." 64 Jesus said to him, "You have said so. But I tell you, hereafter you will see the Son of man seated at the right hand of Power, and coming on the clouds of heaven." 65 Then the high priest tore his robes, and said, "He has uttered blasphemy. Why do we still need witnesses? You have now heard his blasphemy.

The blasphamy was because Christ not only said He was the Christ (because in your Jewish line of thinking, being the messiah was not the same as being God as you have stated to me before), but the blasphemy was because He told the High Priest that HE would see the Judgment prophesied by Jeremiah. Only God could carry out that judgment against Israel, but Christ told Ciaphas that HE would carry it out against Ciaphas himself and his generation. As Jesus did in Matthew 23.
31,916 posted on 03/05/2002 9:57:13 AM PST by NATE4"ONE NATION"
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To: angelo
The problem with so many of these so-called 'prophecies' of Jesus is that they don't make sense when read closely and in context.
Forest? WHAT forest!!?!?!?

All I see are these dang TREES!!

32,025 posted on 03/05/2002 4:12:52 PM PST by Elsie
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