[SoothingDave]

hehe. Ok. So I read your post correctly the first time. Then am I to assume that you believe what NATE believes about Revelations???

I don't believe anyone should assume anyone else believes what Nate believes. I believe that the basic gist of Revelation is referring to the destruction of the Temple in AD 70. There are other prophetic elements, of course, and I am no expert on them. But Jesus is not going to come here and rule for a literal 1000 years in a literal earthly kingdom. He already is ruling the world through his Church. The Kingdom of God is here.

Also, can you show me one place in the Bible where 40 days and 40 nights is not literal??

Show me one place where it is literal. We are talking about interpretation of a phrase. You take it literally, I see it as idiomatic. I believe outside sources verify the use of the phrase in Hebrew as an idiom.

SD

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

I don't believe anyone should assume anyone else believes what Nate believes. I believe that the basic gist of Revelation is referring to the destruction of the Temple in AD 70. There are other prophetic elements, of course, and I am no expert on them. But Jesus is not going to come here and rule for a literal 1000 years in a literal earthly kingdom. He already is ruling the world through his Church. The Kingdom of God is here.

Just what Nate believes Dave. A pretreiest catholic, hey Nate you won Dave over. :)

BigMack

[ksen]

I believe that the basic gist of Revelation is referring to the destruction of the Temple in AD 70.

Well since the book of Revelation was written about 20 years after the destruction of the Temple it wasn't much of a revelation then.

-ksen

[ksen]

He[Jesus] already is ruling the world through his Church.

Have you looked at the world lately? If what you say is true then He is doing a terrible job.

-ksen

[JohnnyM]

"Show me one place where it is literal. "

So Jesus was not tempted for a literal 40 days and 40 nights. Noah wasn't in the ark for a literal 40 days. Moses wasn't on Mt. Sanai for a literal 40 days. There is a difference between poetic language and literal accounts. I don't think anyone would think the gospels were poetic and flambouyant in language. They were literal accounts. I believe Christ will reign on earth as King for a literal 1000 years. It is a prophecy. How accurate is a prophecy if it uses figurative language? How can you tell it is accurate if the time is indeterminate? it's indeterminate than it could happen at anytime and cease to be a prophecy. Can you show me one prophecy where a period of time is used and that period is NOT literal. I have challenged NATE and vmatt on this and they coudln't answer, so I would like to know if you have one. If you can show me one, than I will give the benefit the doubt based on presedence(sp?).

JM

[Elsie]

He already is ruling the world through his Church.

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If so...... He ain't doin' a very good job!!!!!!!!!