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DISTURBING NEW YORK TRAGEDY CODE CLUSTER EMERGING
BibleCodeDigest.com ^ | 11 OCT 2001 | BIBLE CODE DIGEST.COM STAFF

Posted on 10/10/2001 11:45:30 PM PDT by Quix

FOLLOWING is the latest update on the progress of a growing NYC WTC related Bible Code. ONE aspect of it already has odds of 1 in 4 million occuring by chance. Some aspects of it are entirely new to the phenomenon. The code's obvious relationship to the surface text (Ezek 7:2-8) is also quite sobering. This code has risen to one of the top 5 of all time in terms of statistical probabilities. This is a worthy site for interested people to signup for. Offered as fair use for educational discussion--Q

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Disturbing New York Tragedy Code Cluster Emerging

We¡¦d Like Your Opinion on It

A troubling new cluster of codes about the terrorist attack on the World Trade Center is taking shape in the early verses of Ezekiel 7, and we aren¡¦t quite sure what it implies. We¡¦d be very interested in your take on it. (You can e-mail us your [perhaps meant for MEMBERS only?] opinion from the link at the bottom of this page.)

The focal code is an unusually lengthy ELS of 28 letters with a very short skip of 15. [This means the statistical probabilities are VERY high against the likelihood of such occurring by chance.]

It reads, ¡§New York: They Accompany the Unfortunate Who Are Stricken In It. The Worshippers Are Gathering Around God.¡¨ Its length and its brevity of skip makes this one of the top five most significant Bible codes ever discovered.

Crossing or coming near these mysterious messages are many brief ELSs that connect with the events of September 11 and that we are working on possibly extending:

Some of these brief ELSs are:

Repent! God Has Responded to the Evil

An Unheard of Disaster

God Struck Evil

Every Evil

In the Morning

an exact crossing of ¡§September 11¡¨ and ¡§2001¡¨

U.S.

bin Laden

Airliner

Firemen

Afghan

Crying

Saddam

Iraq

Conspiracy

Devastation

Grief

Cruelty

Taliban

Terror

Horrible

Destroy

Death

Destruction

Butchery

[Q: Some of the shorter words above in Hebrew would not, in and of themselves be statistically significant. The whole collection of words fitting the situation AND the surface text is incredibly statistically significant. But common sense will tell you the same thing. CLEARLY SOMETHING IS GOING ON for the list of words above to be collected in a tight, small matrix as they are.]

There are some other extremely unusual features to this cluster. In text centered around the lengthy New York code there are far fewer occurrences of the World Trade Center acronym as a code, as if to represent its horrible absence from the Manhattan skyline. The glaring absence of WTC ELSs is so great that the odds it could happen by chance are less than 1 in 10,000.

In addition, there is an apparent representation of a mass graveyard in the same text. There are 13 visible crosses formed by pairs of appearances of ¡§The End¡¨ ELSs that look like this (the blank squares in the matrix represent other Hebrew letters in the text):

[SORRY, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET THE GRAPHIC INSERTED. IF YOU ARE A MEMBER OF THE SITE AND CAN, GREAT.--Q]

The spelling of ¡§The End¡¨ was taken directly from the literal text of Ezekiel 7:5-6: ¡§Disaster! An unheard-of disaster is coming. The end has come! The end has come!¡¨ While 3.5 such crosses would be expected to occur in this text by chance, the actual appearance of 13 such crosses is extremely unusual¡Xwith odds less than 1 in 4 million. The majority of these crosses appear in two stacks whose centers are only 7 letters apart, as if to represent the Twin Towers.

What makes these curiosities particularly disturbing is the message of the surface text above these very significant Bible code occurrences. Ezekiel 7:2-8 reads (in the New International Version):

Son of man, this is what the Sovereign Lord says to the land of Israel: The end! The end has come upon the four corners of the land.

The end is now upon you and I will unleash my anger against you. I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.

I will not look on you with pity or spare you; I will surely repay you for your conduct and the detestable practices among you. Then you will know that I am the Lord.

This is what the Sovereign God says: Disaster! An unheard-of disaster is coming.

The end has come! The end has come! It has roused itself against you. It has come!

Doom has come upon you„oyou who dwell in the land. The time has come, the day is near; there is panic, not joy, upon the mountains.

I am about to pour out my wrath on you and spend my anger against you; I will judge you according to your conduct and repay you for all your detestable practices.

Double Meaning?

This message came through the prophet Ezekiel for the nation of Israel prior to its being conquered by the Babylonian empire in 587 B.C. This was not the first time God allowed ruthless pagans to devastate Israel in times of its spiritual decline. Given that scholars believe there are many double prophecies in the Bible, or instances where a prophecy is fulfilled once and then fulfilled again in a totally different situation many years later, could it be that this prophecy has a modern application, too?

And is it possible to tie these codes and anomalies beneath it to the United States? Could the ¡§detestable practices¡¨ be our commonplace disregard for the Ten Commandments? Might this not include our worship of self, possessions and success rather than God? Our tolerance of violence in media as well as reality? Our ready acceptance of dishonesty [Q: AND INFANTICIDE?] and adultery in our culture?

Or is it simply a coincidence? Or could it be that our ¡§God Bless America¡¨ slogans are self-serving wishes for God to be on our side even though we habitually ignore God and the Ten Commandments in our daily lives?

What do you think? We would value your opinion as we move forward with this research over the next few weeks. Please send us an e-mail with your thoughts. Send to info@biblecodedigest.com.

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To: Quix
Your evidence, research appears to be EXCEEDINGLY out of date. The skeptics have entered into a fair minded and well structured experiment involving the codes and other texts as well. The Bible Codes won hands down and by a HUGE margin. The skeptics were stunned. But it's not so popular in the popular press to report these facts.

Wrong
81 posted on 10/11/2001 1:11:16 AM PDT by Economist_MA
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To: 537 Votes
As has been well said, they appear to be worded in a manner more given to understanding clearly after the fact. I do suspect this will not ALWAYS be the case--but it has been more the case so far--not an uncommon phenomenon with Biblical prophecies in the surface text--as has been pointed out.

Part of the problem is imagining what might happen before it happens. One has to have a clear notion of what to search for.

82 posted on 10/11/2001 1:11:28 AM PDT by Quix
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To: all
I've been watching post after post come from this character on the Replies page. He or she sure knows how to put the Quix into Quixotic.
83 posted on 10/11/2001 1:11:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck
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To: No Fool
You are continuing to display your ignorance of the facts of the solid research involving the highly critical skeptics with a lifetime of professional practice in statistics.
84 posted on 10/11/2001 1:13:13 AM PDT by Quix
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To: dalereed
So, your class taught you that statistics were 100% USELESS?

Fascinating--a class on something the class purports to be 100% useless. And you spent TIME on it?

Fascinating.

85 posted on 10/11/2001 1:15:08 AM PDT by Quix
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To: nopardons
For the person who wrote the article, it stood for "peace between nations". That was his viewpoint. To him, it DID stand for that. He explained that he saw it as a symbol of free trade. He further believed that free trade between nations would lead to world peace.

What struck me was that his view was that of MAN achieving world peace outside of the context of God. "MAN achieving world peace outside of the context of God" was one of the major themes of the tower of Babel.

86 posted on 10/11/2001 1:15:41 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Quix
Bible Codes press release

Institute of Mathematical Statistics

Contact information at end of release.
For immediate release: September 8, 1999.

Bible Codes Mystery Explained

Statistical Science, a leading international review journal, will publish a refutation of the statistical methodology used in "Equidistant letter sequences in the book of Genesis," a work that became the basis for the much-publicized book, "The Bible Codes." When the editors decided to publish the paper in the journal, in August 1994, they had not intended to give the work a stamp of scientific approval. Instead, the article was introduced to readers as a "challenging puzzle." The paper, by Doron Witzum, Eliyahu Rips and Yoav Rosenberg, later became the basis for Michael Drosnin's book, as well as films, newspaper, and magazine coverage of the supposedly-demonstrated phenomenon. Now, five years later, four researchers have re-analyzed the data and their results are being published in Statistical Science. The new paper, authored by Brendan McKay, Dror Bar-Natan, Maya Bar-Hillel and Gil Kalai, will appear in the next issue (the delayed May 1999 issue). The article, which was refereed by statistical scientists who are the leaders in their field, reveals flaws in the original analysis of the book of Genesis. Robert E. Kass, former Executive Editor of Statistical Science, was invited to write an introduction to this paper. He says this new paper "solves the puzzle" posed by the first article. Here is the text of that introduction:

One of the fundamental teachings in statistical training is that probability distributions can generate seemingly surprising outcomes much more frequently than naive intuition might suggest. For good reason, experienced statisticians have long been skeptical of claims based on human perception of extraordinary occurrences. Now that computer programs are widely available to help nearly anyone "mine" available data, there are wonderful new possibilities for discovering misleading patterns.

In this context, when the article "Equidistant Letter Sequences in the Book of Genesis," by Witztum, Rips and Rosenberg, was examined by reviewers and editorial board members for Statistical Science, none was convinced that the authors had found something genuinely amazing. Instead, what remained intriguing was the difficulty of pinpointing the cause, presumed to be some flaw in their procedure, that produced such apparently remarkable findings. Thus, in introducing that paper, I wrote that it was offered to readers "as a challenging puzzle."

Unfortunately, though perhaps not so surprisingly, many people outside our own profession interpreted publication of the paper as a stamp of scientific approval on the work. However, even though the referees had thought carefully about possible sources of error, no one we asked was willing to spend the time and effort required to reanalyze the data carefully and independently. Rather, we published the paper in the hope that someone would be motivated to devote substantial energy to figuring out what was going on and that the discipline of statistics would be advanced through the identification of subtle problems that can arise in this kind of pattern recognition.

In this issue, Brendan McKay, Dror Bar-Natan, Maya Bar-Hillel and Gil Kalai report their careful dissection and analysis of the equidistant letter sequence phenomenon. Their explanations are very convincing and, in broad stroke, familiar. They find that the specifications of the search (for hidden words) were, in fact, inadequately specific: just as in clinical trials, it is essential to have a strict protocol; deviations from it produce very many more opportunities for surprising patterns, which will no longer be taken into account in the statistical evaluation of the evidence. Choices for the words to be discovered may seem innocuous yet be very consequential. Because minor variations in data definitions and the procedure used by Witztum et al. produce much less striking results, there is good reason to think that the particular forms of words those authors chose effectively "tuned" their method to their data, thus invalidating their statistical test.

Considering the work of McKay, Bar-Natan, Bar-Hillel, and Kalai as a whole it indeed appears, as they conclude, that the puzzle has been solved.

Contact information:

Brendan McKay
Professor, Department of Computer Science
Australian National University
Canberra, ACT, 0200, AUSTRALIA
bdm@cs.anu.edu.au
+61 2 6249 3845

Leon Gleser
Executive Editor, Statistical Science
Professor, Department of Statistics
University of Pittsburgh
ljg@stat.pitt.edu
412-624-3925

Robert E. Kass
Professor and Head, Department of Statistics
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh PA 15213-3890
kass@stat.cmu.edu
412-268-8723

To purchase copies of Statistical Science (available after September 16, 1999):
Institute of Mathematical Statistics
3401 Investment Boulevard, Suite 7
Hayward, CA 94545-3819, USA
510-783-8141

87 posted on 10/11/2001 1:15:51 AM PDT by Economist_MA
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To: Quix
Ah....therapist...... code word for psychologist. You're a social worker, NOT a medical doctor!

Rave on!

88 posted on 10/11/2001 1:16:54 AM PDT by onyx
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To: Quix
Quix, you may be able to play with statistics and show me all kinds of things with regards to your "codes." However, statistics used to analyze one thing (words, letters, nubers in The Bible) cannot be offered as proof of something entirely independent of the thing to which those statistics were applied (current events).

The statistical proof, probabilities, improbabilities, etc. that you cite only refer to the codes themselves, but have no bearing on reality and offer no analysis of anything other than the words to which those statistics are applied.

There may be all kinds of statistical quirks with your Bible Codes, but so what? I recall reading that vegetarians are many times more statistically likely to die in a plane crash (given recent events, I would have preferred to cite a different one, but this is the most powerful). Does this statistical revelation tell us anything about vegetarianism and airplane travel? No, it only tells us how the dice ended up after being rolled. You can scream about the significance of the statistical probabilities all you want - they still have no bearing on reality and only tell you whether the liklihood was high or low for something to occur. They do not tell you that it will or won't occur. They especially won't tell you if something entirely independent of what the statistics analyzed will or won't occur.

The Bible Code folks have not yet shown me how all their statistics mean anything other than they have come up with a bunch of interesting statistics (interesting to a statistician at least).

Again, with regards to your statistical probabilities of a word or combination of letters existing I ask: So What? You have failed to prove that the stats themselves have any meaning.

The Bible has meaning for us because it conveys God's Word, offers a historical representation of what has occurred, etc. Your codes however do nothing of the sort. They only statistically analyze the combination of words, letters, numbers, etc. AFTER the meaning has been stripped from them.

89 posted on 10/11/2001 1:18:04 AM PDT by bluefish
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To: Quix
Was it a Freudian slip , when you claimed to be a " FELLOW TRAVELLER " , or are you just unaware of what that means ? Commie sympathizers aren't welcome here, you know.

Oh, and FYI , you do rather come across as " arrogant " ; and a few other things as well.

90 posted on 10/11/2001 1:20:01 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: TheLion
That's an interesting question.

Personally, I believe God is going to take wrath into His own hands at some point.

But, He used King Nebuchadnezzar--an idolatrous pagan king--to express his wrath on the Children of Israel at a critical point in their history.

He hasn't informed me of His criteria for when He uses pagans and others for disciplining someone and when He decides to do it directly. Perhaps YOU could ask Him? It doesn't seem to be an important item in His relationship with me. Of course asking Him anything presupposes a significant relationship with Him sufficient to know His still small voice compared to one's own inner thoughts.

91 posted on 10/11/2001 1:20:29 AM PDT by Quix
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To: nopardons
The DEAD SEA SCROLLS aren't all that faithful to the King James version

I think you missed my point. The Dead Sea Scrolls are faithful not to the King James Bible, but to the current Hebrew texts!! The programs are run on the current Hebrew text(I believe with the vowels removed, because that was most authentic.)

I repeat: This stuff has nothing to do with a King James Bible.

92 posted on 10/11/2001 1:21:58 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: Quix
It's difficult to believe God would have anything to say about a couple of buildings falling down in New York. When you consider the history of the world and the great tribulations, it's nothing. This event is only huge to us because we have suffered so little.

Monuments and structures have been destroyed by earthquakes and catastrophes all thru history and I'll bet they don't portend man's destruction Biblically.

93 posted on 10/11/2001 1:23:52 AM PDT by Deb
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To: Joe Hadenuf
You might be careful, in my experience,

Almighty God has broken out of boxes that

even HE constructed in His own OT.

He doesn't seem impressed with the religious boxes constructed for Him by the Pharisees or those boxes of individuals of our era.

94 posted on 10/11/2001 1:29:28 AM PDT by Quix
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To: hobbb
It's been too long.

My speed is probably nil.

Not sure what your point about Morse Code is, though.

Maybe I need a break or to get back to work. Or maybe I'm just being thick headed.

95 posted on 10/11/2001 1:32:13 AM PDT by Quix
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To: John Valentine
WELLLLLLLLLLL, NO, ACTUALLY, NOT

At least, not for me.

Sorry if your recreations are so limited.

96 posted on 10/11/2001 1:35:43 AM PDT by Quix
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To: Quix
If you are really serious about this, then I have a number that you should call.

Call now.  She's waiting to hear from you.

 

97 posted on 10/11/2001 1:36:52 AM PDT by Action-America
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To: nopardons
ALL THAT SORT OF SO CALLED DEBUNKING IS ENORMOUSLY OUT OF DATE.

Citing it shows your lack of awareness of the facts--particularly of the last few months.

Such debunkers now look particularly inept or foolish.

98 posted on 10/11/2001 1:39:28 AM PDT by Quix
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To: nopardons
"obvious drivel"

means you have not examined the evidence of the last several months

OR

facts have no influence on your mental processes.

99 posted on 10/11/2001 1:43:11 AM PDT by Quix
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To: the_Watchman
If you believe that the Tower of Babel story is about man achieveing " WORLD PEACE ", then I really feel compelled to ask you what religion you are, what denomination, and if you have ever taken classes in the Bible. That opinion is certainly NOT one which I have ever come in contact with in the study of Protestantism, nor in Judaism . The story, of the Tower of Babel is a parabolic lesson that man is not GOD . It is also a mythographer's explination why everyone doesn't speak the same language .

As far as your friend is concerned, at a time such as this, it is exceedingly strange that that is the reaction he / she had. It is also suggestive of a person looking for reasosns when they are trying to cope with a disaster, but haven't the education, nor knowledge to know what they're talking about.

Your friend thinks like bin Laden, actually. Perhaps you should have anoher conversation with this person, and ask what he / she thinks the terrorists will do next. Most people can understand why someone would think that crashing into the Pentagon and the White House would devistate this country. They are , after all, symbols of war and power. The Twin Towers ? That's just crazy ! They symbolized what ? Greed, a nepotistic power play, and ugly architecture. That they held so many people, is a plus for a terrorist. The two fold attack allowed the fanatics to murder the most number of people possible ; that's all.

100 posted on 10/11/2001 1:44:36 AM PDT by nopardons
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