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Who Are The Moderators & What Can they Do? - Thread 3
9/7/01 | Lead Moderator

Posted on 09/08/2001 4:56:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator

That is a question many have asked - and it deserves some straight answers, removing rumor and setting the record straight about moderators, what they do, and why. This is not the expose some might hope the title promises, but it will tell you much you did not know, and much you need to know.

Up front, I’ll tell you that I am merely the first moderator to serve. Above that I am the least of the moderators in many ways, as all others serve FreeRepublic in stellar ways I could not hope to match. I serve as their trainer and support leader. Here, I am but the spokesperson and author of information I hope you will find interesting and of benefit to all who post on FreeRepublic.

A look at the history of moderators on FR, and the purposes for having them is a good place to start.


History of:

Moderators have been working on FR for about a year now, but until recently few knew they existed because they kept a fairly low profile and never directly communicated with their fellow FReepers with respect to duties. Their primary purpose was to keep the Sidebars free of lesser posts, leaving the best relevant news and editorial content possible in the limited space, but they also served in other important ways.

The job changed significantly when Jim Robinson was invited to come to the National Federation of Republican Assemblies convention in Texas to receive the Ronald Regan Freedom Award. He would be gone for two weeks, longer than any absence from maintaining the site ever before.

During the trip Jim’s son, John Robinson, and all moderators filled in for Jim in some way. This included a few posts as “Sidebar Moderator” or “Admin Moderator” on some threads, and FReepmail contacts with various users of the system. Frequent use of on-thread posting is limited for obvious reasons.

Prior to this people talked about the ‘posting police,’ but in general moderators and their activities were not common knowledge to many. But with this new visibility, in short order moderators became the subject de jure , and rumors began to fly.


New Abilities:

FreeRepublic currently enjoys an average of about 1800 new users per month. Many of these are prior disruptors who wish to harm the reputation of FR, or demean the users of it. It is not uncommon to see several of them per day - clogging up threads with posts designed to cause trouble, and posting foul messages of all kinds. Some merely have an axe to grind, some are vulgar and rude - but the worst come looking to make personal trouble for as many as possible.

Jim Robinson’s typical 16 hour day protected FReepers from the influence of such disruptors prior to his trip, so if moderators were to fill in - they needed new abilities. John Robinson wrote the software, then he and a scant few moderators manned a 24 hour day, 7 days a week effort during the trip. We quickly learned what Jim faced on a daily basis - quite an education!

Meanwhile a problem with Jim’s laptop prevented him from logging in to FreeRepublic until he got to Texas, where he told fellow FReepers he suffered from “serious withdrawal pains.” He was mostly kept from ‘freeping’ until he returned home - about which he commented recently, “...in the past whenever I took two or three days off to go to D.C. or wherever, I'd come home and it would usually take two or three days to get caught up. That was not so bad. But if you want to keep your sanity, NEVER take 14 days off. I've got unanswered email stacked to the rafters and it keeps pouring in! :) “


The Division of Tasking:

Since the number of moderators was (and will remain) quite small, and there was need to divide functional duties, the team was split into two levels - roughly along lines of experience. John named the levels Junior and Senior. That division was known only, and not explained until now, on the forum as Sidebar Moderator and Admin Moderator respectively.

Senior moderators needed to be able to do almost anything Jim could do. Junior moderators continue old tasks, yet support Seniors in new ones as well - and both needed to learn to use software still under development that continues today. Though a few mistakes were made, few noticed any major degradation due to frequent disruptor activities.

As a result, we were successful in relieving Jim of the load he carried, and permitted him to enjoy a relatively worry free and much deserved vacation, the longest he has experienced in a too many years. In addition, we hope to continue to afford him the ability to spend more leisure time with family, friends and fellow FReepers - an ability most of us enjoy, but that his unswerving dedication has denied.


Who Are We and How Many:

At the beginning, it was decided that total anonymity would be absolutely mandatory for several reasons. The obvious being that no one wanted to have their reputation on the forum compromised in any way by being known to be assisting Jim Robinson in maintenance duties.

Additional reasons for total anonymity include the desire to avoid any hint of public special relationship or status above any other user of the forum - and any activity of moderators publicly hinting of their participation would mean the end of it. All moderators are tasked with the duty to maintain their anonymity, and all must hold in strictest confidence any knowledge derived from their participation. None, for obvious reasons, have deviated from these practices. However for special circumstances my identity has been revealed to less than a handful who hold that information in confidence.

In fact, anonymity is so closely guarded that most do not even know who the other moderators are, and will not learn that information in the process of doing their assigned tasks. There are only three people who know who all are, Jim Robinson, John Robinson and myself. There is one deviation from that - Senior moderators work so closely together they have to know each other.

There are less than 10 moderators all told, split roughly in half by task and duty. Location of them across all US time zones aids in round-the-clock coverage. All of us work at the behest and oversight of Jim Robinson, and all work under a set of guidelines and practices. Each is trusted to use their judgement on close calls, and all of us are fallible human beings that make a few mistakes on occasion. Some of those mistakes are easily corrected without much ado - others have obviously become public in attempts at correction. However being public in what we do will continue to be minimal.


What we do:

As you know, there is often a need to pull posted threads that endanger FreeRepublic legally. Then there are the rather obvious and purposed planting of posts that can be used by major media to spoil the reputation and public perception of what FR is all about There are also many posted ‘articles’ (that are not articles) that are inappropriate and violate the posting guidelines of our host. There are many replies or posted comments made on threads that are inappropriate and need removal, saving otherwise constructive threads from disruption.

Incidentally - there are a few bad-apples who have abused the abuse button. These are those who goad or bait people, until they get a response in kind - and then hit the abuse button to dispense with their foes and look angelic in the process. That scam worked for a while - but we’re wise it now.
Some users flout the rules of the house, manners and the rules of civility needed to maintain order - forcing appropriate action to curtail their activities. Moderators have the ability to deal appropriately - and if we err, Jim or John can remedy error as needed. Obviously, they can over-rule any of our decisions, and have fittingly done so.

Records have to be kept, abusers need to be contacted and encouraged to alter wayward ways, and advised of the consequences for failure to do so. People with various problems ask for help - and get it. Many accidently make multiple posts, and ask that one or more be removed. Some ask that we edit their posts - but we can’t do that, and have little time for it if we could. Others have made posts in anger, and soon after repented of what they said and asked for deletion.

In short, the daily hurly-burly activities here keep us pretty busy. We cool flame wars, and fight personal attacks. We provide services to benefit not only the goals and purposes set by our host, but to hundreds of individuals who frequent these pages.


The Real Heros:

The bottom line is that moderators aren’t the real heros who do the lion’s share of maintaining order on FreeRepublic. That honor rightfully rests with those who diligently keep their eyes pealed for the problems that beset us all - and hit the abuse button to alert us to those problems when they see them. Sure, we get plenty of abuse complaints that are misplaced or are lame, requiring no action whatever.

But, all are given rather quick attention (sometimes too quick,) as many of you have seen or experienced. It should be rare that you’ll see any major abuse continue very long. But that speed is the result of efforts of many who treasure what this place has to offer, and are quick to point to the out-of-place and the unacceptable. They are the unsung heros here, not I nor those who process their complaints.

We’ve noted who the best of the best are, and appreciate their exemplary efforts without which our job would be nothing at all - compared to the contribution these people make to the betterment of what makes this the best place on the Internet of its kind. To them all FReepers owe our greatest praise, and our greatest appreciation.


The Future:

We are still learning, John is still programming and we are still shaping what we do to better meet the needs of our host and all who trust this place to remain the best there is. Our goals are to be as permissive as possible and never partial or arbitrary. We are here to do what we can for our host, and for those who care deeply about this place. Our new abilities will continue, and new programming and practices will refine them. And we believe your input is a critical part of that effort.

Needless to say, I think we have a future. It is fitting that we communicate with you, and that you do with us, and our superiors. When you need to do that you can hit the abuse button on any thread and weigh in - your comments are seen, and often responded to via FRmail - perhaps sometimes not as quickly as you might desire. Don’t be surprised if we are a bit tardy at times. As I said, I don’t want a lot of us, nor do I think you do. If things are hot, FRmail drops to the bottom of the priority list.

Bottom line - you will determine our future by your support or lack of it. Jim is not deaf nor inattentive to your comments and complaints. He is probably the most forgiving man I have ever met, but as you well know, he does not hesitate to act if needed.

That’s the end of the expose about moderators to this point, I hope you found it useful and worthy of your time.


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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks to all of you for all you do for us and thus for our country - "seldom have so many owed so much to so few."
101 posted on 09/09/2001 12:00:02 AM PDT by 185JHP
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To: Inspector Harry Callahan
You're welcome, kiddo.
102 posted on 09/09/2001 12:04:42 AM PDT by JudyB1938
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To: Admin Moderator
So you're left handed, eh?
103 posted on 09/09/2001 1:39:35 AM PDT by GretchenEE
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks for posting this message. Whoever you are, you're doing a great job. I will post a copy on Free Republic Highlights.

I did notice this going on: "Incidentally - there are a few bad-apples who have abused the abuse button. These are those who goad or bait people, until they get a response in kind -- and then hit the abuse button to dispense with their foes and look angelic in the process. That scam worked for a while -- but we’re wise it now."

But as soon as I recognized it as a practice and commented on it to the 'powers that be,' it was nipped in the bud.

I know I have been tempted to retaliate when attacked, but in the long run I know it useless, and I just move on.

104 posted on 09/09/2001 1:45:46 AM PDT by RJayneJ
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To: eastforker
One suggestion if at all possible,when a thread gets long and your using a dial up connection it takes forever to refresh,any chance of an option to refresh the article with lets say the last ten responses only,just a thought.

That's a great idea!!

105 posted on 09/09/2001 6:38:21 AM PDT by RightWingMama
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To: Admin Moderator
questions on the first thread

Thanks; I'll look forward to it.

106 posted on 09/09/2001 8:03:06 AM PDT by Silly
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To: parsifal
Ok, Ok, Ok....I'll read'em. I promise. Anything to avoid coercion. ;-)
107 posted on 09/09/2001 8:28:30 AM PDT by Twodees
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To: Admin Moderator
Hold on a bit! Please re-examine my comments. First, the official position was that there were board monitors for the sidebars, i.e., "Breaking News."

Second, I have no quarrel with pulling threads where flame wars break out and there is no longer discussion of the topic. I do object to threads being pulled for the nature of the topic, although these topics are essential to discuss as part of the direction of our country. Referencing monitoring every post, as I stated previously, THAT would be quite spooky.

Third, you asked for input, and I do think what I expressed was constructive. I also believe that anyone can attest that disruptors purposely try to get threads pulled. My suggestion to ignore them is one to consider.

Keep dialog civil and something you would not be ashamed to have young children read, and our job of pulling posts would disappear.

Last, excuse me? That comment sounds as though you are directing me and others about what you consider to be civil dialogue, and since when is Free Republic considered a site for children? Rarely have I heard any dialogue that even contains profanity; morevoer, it is up to parents to monitor what sites their kids visit!

108 posted on 09/09/2001 8:29:16 AM PDT by Angelique
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To: Admin Moderator
Is there a difference between moderators and FAB members?
109 posted on 09/09/2001 8:30:52 AM PDT by Angelique
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To: Angelique
Let me answer you since the admin moderator hasn't seen this yet.


Hold on a bit! Please re-examine my comments. First, the official position was that there were board monitors for the sidebars, i.e., "Breaking News."

The sidebar moderators began over a year ago and Jim Robinson watched over us for problems. When he decided to make the extended trip to Texas recently, our powers were expanded to include the ability to pull threads/posts and for some of us, to ban people. Jim & John continue to monitor our actions and anything we do can be undone.

Second, I have no quarrel with pulling threads where flame wars break out and there is no longer discussion of the topic. I do object to threads being pulled for the nature of the topic, although these topics are essential to discuss as part of the direction of our country. Referencing monitoring every post, as I stated previously, THAT would be quite spooky.

We do not monitor every post. We rely on abuse reports as Jim did. We also FReep the threads as you do and occasionally we will spot a thread/reply that is in need of pulling before anyone reports it.

Third, you asked for input, and I do think what I expressed was constructive. I also believe that anyone can attest that disruptors purposely try to get threads pulled. My suggestion to ignore them is one to consider.

John Robinson has put in a weighting system to evaluate the credibility of abuse reporters. It is currently being used to rate abuse reports by non-registered members (some of who are AF'ers). It's still in the experimental stage. We also have become pretty good at figuring out who is abusing the abuse system. We read the thread/post before taking action

Keep dialog civil and something you would not be ashamed to have young children read, and our job of pulling posts would disappear.

Last, excuse me? That comment sounds as though you are directing me and others about what you consider to be civil dialogue, and since when is Free Republic considered a site for children?

I am certain the admin moderator was not addressing you specifically.

Rarely have I heard any dialogue that even contains profanity; morevoer, it is up to parents to monitor what sites their kids visit!

There are a considerable number of posts which are reported to us for profanity. You may not be reading the threads that contain them or we may have pulled them before you got there, but trust me, it happens.

Is there a difference between moderators and FAB members?

Some moderators are FAB members, some may not be. Only 3 people know who all of us are. Jim and John Robinson and the admin moderator.

110 posted on 09/09/2001 10:30:17 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Admin Moderator
Anonymity is a mistake. Its going to breed mistrust and we're going to figure out who you are anyway.

Freepers are some of the most resourceful people in the world, when you present them with a mystery they perceive it as a challenge. Ever hear the term 'linguistic forensics'?

111 posted on 09/09/2001 10:56:05 AM PDT by ICU812
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To: Gore_ War_ Vet
STATIST ALERT! STATIST ALERT!

"...thier efforts to suppress any investigation into the Charlie Foxtrot also known as the James Beck..."

Suppress? What I saw was some rational folks trying to interject some reason into the discussion. And that's probably what the moderators saw, also. Sorry, looks like the LE=evil crowd don't get to make the rules.

112 posted on 09/09/2001 11:35:17 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
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To: Sidebar Moderator
Some moderators are FAB members, some may not be. Only 3 people know who all of us are. Jim and John Robinson and the admin moderator.

Thank you for your response. Referencing the subject of moderators, I recall, when I signed up, that there was an explanation about the FAB, the reason for its existence, and a list of the members. After reading some of the posts about this FR procedural change, perhaps it is better to be more forthright.

This is just my opinion, and definitely, I have no clue about running a forum, but what has always kept the spirit of the mission statement is the candor. I do have management experience, however, and most posters contribute to the forum's success. Forgive my cliche, but please do not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

113 posted on 09/09/2001 11:54:03 AM PDT by Angelique
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To: Angelique
After reading some of the posts about this FR procedural change, perhaps it is better to be more forthright.

Check the threads bookmarked in my profile.

114 posted on 09/09/2001 12:52:46 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator, Jim Robinson
I have another question. Can you (or Jim) make that evil Condit banner go away? You know the one, where the picture of him gets bigger and bigger. Its infiltrating my dreams and everytime I self-search it shows up at the top...I think Gary is coming to get me next. Thanks.

Dio.

115 posted on 09/09/2001 2:08:52 PM PDT by diotima (diotima@iamnotconditbait.com)
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To: Admin Moderator
On first reading of this post, my reaction was to simply move on. After contemplation, I feel a responsibility to respond (a responsibility rather than an impulse).

First of all, I recognize that some level of moderation is necessary. These are the easy calls: obvious obscenity, incorrect placement, unsourced articles are perhaps among this category.

I have seen on Free Republic a significant number of materials pulled that I could not imagine a reasonable explanation for this action. I have had civil discussions with people on threads where flaming was going on between others, only to have the thread pulled. I’ve watched articles I was interested in posted, been distracted for a few minutes, only to return to find the article gone. I’ve posted articles that lasted less than a minute. I’ve watched passionate posters banned for their words.

This has led me to personally reject the label “Freeper”. I suspect I do not deserve the title in that I find this heavier hand – one used to prevent the introduction of select ideas – is not about civility. It is about “Conservative Correctness”.

If I were to offer suggestions that would change my somewhat hesitant impression of FR, my first suggestion would be that materials that are dropped be replaced with a graphic that says “CENSORED” and the poster’s name be retained. This would give everyone an opportunity to realistically determine what frequency of censorship is happening and who is being censored. It would also give us opportunity to privately contact the censored party to determine what it is they are trying to communicate through the posting.

My second suggestion is that a list of reasons for censorship be compiled and the appropriate reason be posted for each occurrence of censorship. In other words, if a thread were pulled because of the use of profanity, the thread would show “Censored because of use of profanity”.

Thirdly, I think the moderator who pulls a thread or posting should be identifiable as well. That way readers would be able to observe potential behavior patterns of different moderators. Certainly moderators using their own judgment are likely to bring some perspective to their decisions. If the FR public can see that a particular moderator is using one category over and over, it would give the body of FR the opportunity and perhaps the motivation to correct bias.

So a censored posting might be: “Jack Barbara CENSORED because of use of profanity by Moderator12”

I make these suggestions in good faith. It is not my intention to promote chaos or to prevent intervention where intervention is necessary – my intention is fairly increase the level of accountability of those who generously take on the role of censor – accountability to the FR participants.

116 posted on 09/09/2001 2:30:32 PM PDT by Jack Barbara
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To: Jack Barbara
We will continue to remove posts that we feel are inappropriate for FR. The poster may or may not receive notice. I have reviewed your post that got deleted and found that it was removed for good reason. If you feel that our guidelines and/or simple rules are too restricting for you then you might consider posting elsewhere.
117 posted on 09/09/2001 3:11:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson
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To: Sidebar Moderator, Admin Moderator
Personally, I didn't know that there were moderators and in the overall scheme of things I probably wouldn't have known until this thread was posted. I find the range of posted opinion here to be very broad. The fact that overt and covert leftists don't appear here too often helps to make FR more "comfortable". We have to wade through enough BS from the old media and the fedgov without hearing from the mind-numbed humanoids of the left when we come here. I really enjoy reading the opinions of the broad spectrum of the right. From neocons to anarchists, it's all great reading!

It's also good to know that when I get too exuberant or testy I can can get a reply pulled. Coffee and reasoned political discussion don't always mix!

118 posted on 09/09/2001 3:12:18 PM PDT by Hoosier
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To: Admin Moderator
Thanks for telling it like it is, Bob... hehe (the truth is hard for some to hear)

You know not the truth of what you speak. Bob J insists on getting this wrong every time he addresses the issue...I know because I'm the one that originally named a group of nasties, The Coven.

1. It was composed of self-censored

2. DonMorgan, navigator and Mojo were never in the coven in that they lack cojones; therefore incapable of being warlocks. They did, however, have pimp status along with UncleDaddy, nom and a few other jerks. They quickly took over the joyful extermination of all who opposed Republicans and others who annoyed them.

3. Mojo still leads a group of effeminate anti-freepers from his psychotic seclusion in a rusted trailer down by the crick. They still lie about all things Free Republic and all who defend them.

Bob J gives them great pleasure in being wrong on the subject every time.

Your reinforcement of the insult does not speak well of your maturity, judgement and fairness.

You should seek to moderate as steward, not stewed. I pray you are not someone I know personally as it would trouble me.

119 posted on 09/09/2001 3:30:39 PM PDT by harrowup (The original liberal for Bush)
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To: Jim Robinson
We will continue to remove posts that we feel are inappropriate for FR. The poster may or may not receive notice. I have reviewed your post that got deleted and found that it was removed for good reason. If you feel that our guidelines and/or simple rules are too restricting for you then you might consider posting elsewhere.

Very well. I will take your advice.

Peace

120 posted on 09/09/2001 4:13:21 PM PDT by Jack Barbara
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