Posted on 11/09/2005 5:27:42 PM PST by calex59
The Defender 8-Shot allows you to be prepared for any unseen obstacle that might come your way while in the backcountry. It's easy to pack and carry, and handles both buckshot and rifled slugs easily. The rugged Defender 8-Shot features an eight-shot magazine capacity, 18" cylinder bore barrel, non-glare metal surfaces and a lightweight composite stock and forearm. Choose from the full stock version with a removable front TRUGLO® fiber optic sight, the pistol grip model, or the combo version with both pistol grip and full stock included. The full stock model is available in both 12 and 20 gauge.
What do you think or recomend.
BLOAT!
BUY LOTS OF AMMO TODAY!
They seem to be pretty bad assed shotguns. I know a guy who has one and it's pretty sweet.... as sweet as a shotgun can be anyway lol.
Thanks for the comment. I am sorry that I mispelled recommend!
Well they hold 8 rounds of 23/4 inch ammo and 7 of 3 inch. That seems to be ok. I like the idea of a shotgun. Used one in an operation once in an unnamed place. Saved my butt then and I think it will do the job now but I wanted to know about reliability etc. Thanks for your response.
It is one of the best and cheapest pump shotguns.
I've got one. It is an outstanding firearm.
Buy it.
Thanks to both of you for your commenst. I was of the same thought but it is nice to get the opinions of other gun lovers and owners.
Good topic. I like shotguns.
Ok, so what is your take on the 1300? :)
A word of caution:
I've seen bloody lips in need of stitches from the pistol grip model. If you aren't accustomed to a 12 yet, go with the standard stock.
Thanks, but I am accustomed to 12s, but I want one specifically for defence. I have already decided if I get a 1300 that I will NOT get the pistol grip model:) Thanks anyway I am sure this is great advice.
I may just have to run out and get one.
;-)
I owned one several years ago. I liked it a lot - it was a very nice shotgun. A couple of things, though.
1. I would install a heat shield on the barrel. I found it was very easy to accidentally touch the barrel, which gets very hot when shooting, when I turned the gun over to reload it. The shield fixed that - I think I paid 20 bucks for mine.
2. My 1300 had a pistol grip, which looks nice and makes the gun more compact. However, it really punished my wrist, especially when firing heavy loads (such as 3" OO buckshot). I sprained my wrist with it one day when shooting it - it was a scorching Florida summer afternoon, and my hands got really sweaty and compromised my grip on the gun. I would buy the full stock version if I were to get another one.
3. Considering the gun will be used for home defense, you may want to invest in a set of sights for it (Winchester may offer this as an option now, but I don't know. My Defender had a bead like a regular sporting shotgun). My current shotgun (a Mossberg) has a ghost ring sight on it. Despite what people who don't know what they're talking about say, good aim does matter with a shotgun for home defense. The shot simply doesn't spread that much over the very short ranges you'll find in a typical home defense setting, even with a short barrel and a cylinder bore.
In regards to loads, a magazine I read several years ago did some tests. They found that the 00 buck was way too much for indoor use - it'll penetrate sheet rock walls and hollow interior doors and have plenty of velocity left to kill someone behind them. They recommended #4 buckshot - the penetration is much less, and anything you hit with that load is going down and staying there.
The ammo point is well taken. Number 4 should be more than enough to stop ciminals and not shoot through sheet rock.
The sights are also and welcome comment. The 1300 comes with a bead and I had to wonder about that one! Thanks again.
I have just about made up my mind to buy one. This is one of the best I have seen while looking at almost all manufacturers of shotguns. I thank everyone who has posted about this gun. I love firearms and love talking about them.
Got one, it's a simple yet effective weapon. I highly recommend the Winchester 1300, black looks bad.
Whatever you get, practice with the sucker. And, if you're serious about preparing for a riot type situation (Can you say, "New Orleans"? I thought you could) then drill yourself on loading it while keeping it pointed at the target.
Wanna spend money you don't have on stuff you don't need? Take a look. The boss lady has a left handed Remington all dolled up and I have another left-handed one with extended mag tube and a trigger job that just won't quit and it's a nice gun to have with you when the compost gets close to the air conditioner.
I have to admit that 870s are a good gun. I used one for years hunting pheasents. Great bird the ringneck. I will check out your link and see what expensive accessories I can find to hang on one! Thanks.
Ya'll seen this one??
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