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Former Sergeant (claims to have shot children) Criticizes Iraq War (at Cornell, Ithaca event)
Copyright © 2005 The Cornell Daily Sun. All rights reserved. ^ | 3/14/05 | by Nessia Sloane

Posted on 03/14/2005 5:50:57 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

ITHACA NY--"I lied, I cheated, and I deceived," Iraq War Veteran and former staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey said Friday in Anabel Taylor Hall.

His lecture was part of his mission to reveal his own experiences as a recruitment counselor and a sergeant on the front lines of Iraq. Massey is currently touring upstate New York as a pacifist, commenting on American manipulation and treachery in the Marine Corps and in the War in Iraq.

Massey was brought to Cornell by an Ithaca organization called Conscious Alternative to Militarism (CAM), which is currently working on a movement of counter-recruitment. Its goal is "to make people informed consumers," said Grace Ritter, a member of CAM and organizer of this event.

Massey's discussion unveiled his participation in the Marine Corps' manipulation as a recruitment counselor.

"I was able to plant seeds in their minds," Massey said.

The recruitment process, Massey said, works under the assumption that it can convince young recruits that it is necessary and beneficial to join the Marines.

Assigned a list of hundreds of young men, each recruitment counselor gathers detailed information on the young men's personal lives, from their SAT scores to their eyesight. According to Massey, once a counselor convinces a person to sign up, he encourages the recruit to lie in order to pass the drug, medical and police tests.

"It's just a manipulation of the English language," Massey said.

Massey himself recruited 75 young men, one of whom even had a serious neurological disorder. Massey explained that he understood what he was doing was wrong but continued to recruit out of fear of losing his job in the Marine Corps.

As a reward for his accomplishments as a recruitment counselor, Massey was sent to the front lines of Iraq where according to Massey "the Rules of the Geneva Convention, were out the windows." He admitted to killing innocent civilians and cited a specific example in which he stormed a car of four young Iraqi men, killing three of them.

"We created the enemy," Massey said.

Massey added that a young man whose brother was just murdered will inevitably fight back. Nathan Newman, an Ithaca resident in the audience, expressed his desire for his brother, a lieutenant in the Marines, to speak out like Jimmy Massey.

"I don't know what could be more important than a person speaking out to a community about finding or re-finding their humanity," said Luke Cannon, another Ithaca resident.

Upon his discharge on Dec. 31 2003, Massey has been speaking out under the assumption that the public has the right to know the truth about military conscription and the War in Iraq.

"I will take back everything I said if [The Marine Corps] could answer one question. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: academia; cityofevil; cornell; ithaca; massey; ritter
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To: Onyxx

The guy sounds like a goldbricker to me, Wonder if he was even in My Marine Corps.


41 posted on 03/14/2005 7:06:23 AM PST by OldSgt. (USMC, Nam Vet, HMM-165)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
I was pretty much up the psyco scale when I was discharged in '68. You know I am a sane upstanding member of my community, except at Town Meetings.
42 posted on 03/14/2005 7:07:34 AM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: Pylot

You said "Let's see, a recruiter who lies, cheats and deceives? And this is news???"

And I take offense to that.

The Marine recruiters I know work their tails off and are up front, telling people this will be the hardest thing they EVER do.

And guess what? That's what these young recruits want. They want the challenge and they want to be the BEST. And they are.


43 posted on 03/14/2005 7:07:45 AM PST by campfollower (We need a leader, not a weathervane.... and we have one!)
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To: CrazyIvan

Actually Burkett has exposed close to 2000.

And they all sounded just like this guy.

Claims ofg being in combat, 'remorse' over having killed kids, women etc.

It's a pattern, complete and repeated.


44 posted on 03/14/2005 7:09:49 AM PST by squarebarb
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Did anyone get it on film?

30 years from now, this jerk may be running for President.

Maybe the "Iraq Vets for Truth" will trip him up.


45 posted on 03/14/2005 7:18:29 AM PST by conservativeharleyguy (Democrats: Over 60 million fooled daily!)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
"I will take back everything I said if [The Marine Corps] could answer one question. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said.

Did you shoot the six year old on purpose or on accident? If it was on purpose, then you're a war criminal. If you were told to shoot the child, then you and whoever gave that order are war criminals.

If it as on accident, then you are being obtuse. Clearly you know the child wasn't a terrorist.

Any questions?

At any rate, his story reeks of fraud. I'm sure he's trying a move out of the old Al Hubbard playbook.

46 posted on 03/14/2005 7:19:20 AM PST by Steel Wolf (Smokey, this is not 'Nam. This is bowling. There are rules. Mark it zero, Dude.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

If this man is telling the truth, he should turn himself in for committing war crimes, and name any officer(s) who ordered him to deliberately shoot an innocent six year-old boy.


47 posted on 03/14/2005 7:27:14 AM PST by Steve_Seattle
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To: MizSterious

I've got calls out to my list of contacts still in the recruiting field. We'll see if this POS is real or not. If not I'll hunt him down myself for desecrating the good name of my beloved Corps.


48 posted on 03/14/2005 7:31:27 AM PST by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: marine86297

USMC Staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey,hometown-
Waynsville, North Carolina.
49 posted on 03/14/2005 7:41:36 AM PST by daylate-dollarshort (s/v Musashi I)
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To: daylate-dollarshort

Recruiting fraud is punishable for up to four years after the contract is written and is a punishable felony. I'm continuing to check if he was in fact a recruiter.


50 posted on 03/14/2005 7:56:41 AM PST by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

A Kerry wannabe?


51 posted on 03/14/2005 7:57:26 AM PST by null and void
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"I want to be elected to the Seante and I'll say anything to find a rich stupid liberal woamn with money to support me and my dreams of being just like all the other liars." / JFKerry sarcasm off


52 posted on 03/14/2005 8:10:28 AM PST by q_an_a
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To: campfollower

If you take offense then I'd say you are too easily offended.

Nothing personal meant. No inference about the recruits either.

That the author of the article goes on about recruiting as if misleading statements were news is a bit much for me to stomach.


53 posted on 03/14/2005 8:39:25 AM PST by Pylot
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To: Behind Liberal Lines
i listened to a replay of this POS's speech on the radio last night and it made me want to puke!!!
i had to turn it off

if even half of what he said is true... then the Marines should oblige this coward and arrest him and try him for MURDER since he ADMITS to COMITTING MURDER in public every chance he gets.

their pathetic little protests on the 19th should be fun to watch too...

the Peoples DemocRATic Republic of Ithaca EVIL!!!

54 posted on 03/14/2005 8:42:49 AM PST by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: campfollower
Thank you! I was in the process of trying to find just how to "sick" Mr. Burkett on this guy. I finally got around to reading "Stolen Valor" so I'm freshly motivated to get some of this scum exposed. By the way, thank your husband for his service. I never did, but at least I haven't tried to pass myself off as something I'm not.
55 posted on 03/14/2005 9:24:05 AM PST by CrazyIvan (What's the difference between Joseph Goebbels and Michael Moore? About 150 pounds.)
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To: Little Bill
Little Bill at a Town Meeting - now that would be an occasion.
56 posted on 03/14/2005 9:26:11 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: Jimmy Valentine's brother
FRiends are FRiends, Blood is Blood, Money is Money, Maintain the roads.

You People in the Communist Southland, need a Town Meeting Form of Government, it would fit your Rebel ways.

57 posted on 03/14/2005 9:47:53 AM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: marine86297

Please let me know what you find out. I really smell a rat here!


58 posted on 03/14/2005 1:55:50 PM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

bump for later


59 posted on 03/14/2005 2:06:57 PM PST by Right Angler
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Bump for LJ read.


60 posted on 03/14/2005 4:58:22 PM PST by armymarinemom (My sons freed Iraqi and Afghanistan Honor Roll students.)
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