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Former Sergeant (claims to have shot children) Criticizes Iraq War (at Cornell, Ithaca event)
Copyright © 2005 The Cornell Daily Sun. All rights reserved. ^ | 3/14/05 | by Nessia Sloane

Posted on 03/14/2005 5:50:57 AM PST by Behind Liberal Lines

ITHACA NY--"I lied, I cheated, and I deceived," Iraq War Veteran and former staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey said Friday in Anabel Taylor Hall.

His lecture was part of his mission to reveal his own experiences as a recruitment counselor and a sergeant on the front lines of Iraq. Massey is currently touring upstate New York as a pacifist, commenting on American manipulation and treachery in the Marine Corps and in the War in Iraq.

Massey was brought to Cornell by an Ithaca organization called Conscious Alternative to Militarism (CAM), which is currently working on a movement of counter-recruitment. Its goal is "to make people informed consumers," said Grace Ritter, a member of CAM and organizer of this event.

Massey's discussion unveiled his participation in the Marine Corps' manipulation as a recruitment counselor.

"I was able to plant seeds in their minds," Massey said.

The recruitment process, Massey said, works under the assumption that it can convince young recruits that it is necessary and beneficial to join the Marines.

Assigned a list of hundreds of young men, each recruitment counselor gathers detailed information on the young men's personal lives, from their SAT scores to their eyesight. According to Massey, once a counselor convinces a person to sign up, he encourages the recruit to lie in order to pass the drug, medical and police tests.

"It's just a manipulation of the English language," Massey said.

Massey himself recruited 75 young men, one of whom even had a serious neurological disorder. Massey explained that he understood what he was doing was wrong but continued to recruit out of fear of losing his job in the Marine Corps.

As a reward for his accomplishments as a recruitment counselor, Massey was sent to the front lines of Iraq where according to Massey "the Rules of the Geneva Convention, were out the windows." He admitted to killing innocent civilians and cited a specific example in which he stormed a car of four young Iraqi men, killing three of them.

"We created the enemy," Massey said.

Massey added that a young man whose brother was just murdered will inevitably fight back. Nathan Newman, an Ithaca resident in the audience, expressed his desire for his brother, a lieutenant in the Marines, to speak out like Jimmy Massey.

"I don't know what could be more important than a person speaking out to a community about finding or re-finding their humanity," said Luke Cannon, another Ithaca resident.

Upon his discharge on Dec. 31 2003, Massey has been speaking out under the assumption that the public has the right to know the truth about military conscription and the War in Iraq.

"I will take back everything I said if [The Marine Corps] could answer one question. How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: academia; cityofevil; cornell; ithaca; massey; ritter
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To: Pylot

That's not a fair statement, that's like grouping all "combat" vets in with John F'n Kerry.


21 posted on 03/14/2005 6:17:04 AM PST by marine86297 (I'll never forgive Clinton for Somalia, my blood is on his hands)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; All

He's making the rounds to like-minded Liberal loonies. Tonk's post #28 here says it all:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1360414/posts


22 posted on 03/14/2005 6:17:06 AM PST by DTogo (U.S. out of the U.N. & U.N out of the U.S.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Perfect venue for this scum.


23 posted on 03/14/2005 6:19:29 AM PST by OldFriend ("If there must be trouble, let it be in my day, that my child might have peace." Thomas Paine)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I'm sure the memories are "seared into his memory", as well. He sounds like a dupe.
Reminds me a scene from the book 'Fields of Fire' by James Webb, in which dirty, stinkin', hippie "activists" (see: Democratic trouble-makers) manipulate a wounded Vietnam vet.
These are the same sorts that anonymously call and harass the families of our KIA and MIA.


24 posted on 03/14/2005 6:29:37 AM PST by tumblindice (Our Founding Fathers: all conservative gun owners)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

I see we have this new generation's John F. Kerry!


25 posted on 03/14/2005 6:40:00 AM PST by Redleg Duke (Pass Tort Reform Now! Make the bottom clean for the catfish!)
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To: Leatherneck_MT
What was his MOS?
26 posted on 03/14/2005 6:42:45 AM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Isn't is rather, um, contrary that these guys come out of the closet AFTER they've lied, deceived, murdered, and otherwise performed all kinds of horrendous acts, then try to convince the rest of us they're really good people?

I wouldn't trust this guy to take out my garbage.


27 posted on 03/14/2005 6:43:27 AM PST by AmericanChef
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

Follow the money! $$$$


28 posted on 03/14/2005 6:44:44 AM PST by blam
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To: Little Bill

I have no idea


29 posted on 03/14/2005 6:45:24 AM PST by Leatherneck_MT (3-7-77 (No that's not a Date))
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To: marine86297

Let me just say that the reputation of military recruiters to embellish and obfuscate is as old as the military itself.


30 posted on 03/14/2005 6:47:00 AM PST by Pylot
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

First, I'd like to know if he actually served as claimed. We've had imposters making statements like these before.


31 posted on 03/14/2005 6:50:19 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: marine86297

Is there any way to check the facts on his service, for instance, did he serve in the capacity claimed, did he serve at all, etc.?


32 posted on 03/14/2005 6:53:26 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: marine86297

I'm an Army Vet myself, but that line about "recruitment counselor" jumped out at me too.

As long as we're talking military lingo, I think this guy is a perfect example of what we called in my day a "blivet".


33 posted on 03/14/2005 6:54:05 AM PST by shibumi (You'd rather cry, I'd rather fly.)
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To: Captain Rhino; ALOHA RONNIE

That was my thought. This guy's spiel reeks of fraud. I'd like to see the Pyjamahadeen look into this.


34 posted on 03/14/2005 6:55:40 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines; Unknown Freeper
Truly pathetic.

It reads more like a confession of guilt than a condemnation of Marine Corps policy regarding war-fighting and recruiting. I'd be interested in finding out the statue of limitations involving his self professed "atrocities" and recruiting violations. This "Ex-Marine" obviously needs to get a grip and stop participating in actions that will hurt his former Brothers in the field.

My guess would be that the Marine Corps urinated in his cereal by sending him to war immediately following Recruiter duty. Seems that he lost track of the earliest lesson one learns in the Marines....never send someone to do a task that you cannot do or haven't already done yourself.

It was good for Chesty Puller and its good enough for me.

Ok...I'm off my soapbox and back to my coffee.

35 posted on 03/14/2005 6:57:26 AM PST by Onyxx (Semper Fi....Do or Die)
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To: DTogo; Behind Liberal Lines
Massey was diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder and discharged from the Marine Corps in 2003

Geeze I thought you had to go to Vietnam to get that. Can't these guys come up with something new?

A quick google search didn't reveal anything about the "Conscious Alternative to Militarism (CAM)" group. They must operate out of the local Starbucks. Are these the same folks that carried on in the Ithaca recruiting office?

I lied, I cheated, and I deceived," Iraq War Veteran and former staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey But now I'm telling the truth, honest I am.

36 posted on 03/14/2005 6:57:53 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine's brother ( We need a few more Marines like Lt. Gen. James Mattis)
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To: agere_contra
President James Massey, Demorat

Has a nice ring to it.

37 posted on 03/14/2005 7:00:39 AM PST by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON)
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To: Leatherneck_MT

He was with 3/7, my step brothers old outfit in Nam, as a Weapons CO. Platoon SGT, according to a quick search. My cousin Paul was a Section leader in 3/5 weapons, 4 Duce, I was in the Army and know $hit about how the Marines are organized.


38 posted on 03/14/2005 7:01:15 AM PST by Little Bill (A 37%'r, a Red Spot on a Blue State)
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To: Behind Liberal Lines

"How is a six-year-old child with a bullet in his head a terrorist, because that is the youngest I killed," Massey said."

If you killed the child Massey then it is you who has to answer that question, not the Marines. This child murdering POS deserves a bullet in the head for what he has done.


39 posted on 03/14/2005 7:03:26 AM PST by monday
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To: CrazyIvan

I e-mailed Jug Burkett about this guy last week. Jug is out of town, but I plan to try again.

I'm also sending this to my husband, who, as an E-9 and pretty hooked into the higher command in the corps, might be able to get a Marine investigation started on this.)

This guy REALLY pisses me off. What a scumbag.


40 posted on 03/14/2005 7:05:09 AM PST by campfollower (We need a leader, not a weathervane.... and we have one!)
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