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1 posted on 01/04/2005 2:34:33 PM PST by churchillbuff
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Fr. Bergman, 34, and the father of three children said, "I think that the ordination of Robinson is the logical conclusion of the contraceptive mentality. When Lambeth approved contraception for married couples in 1930 they set the stage for the Robinson consecration in 2003. You remove the marital act from its purpose and we bless sterile intercourse. It is not a big jump to bless then sterile homosexual intercourse."

Couldn't have been said better.

Humanae Vitae BUMP.

2 posted on 01/04/2005 2:44:06 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Interesting.


3 posted on 01/04/2005 2:44:59 PM PST by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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Since the ECUSA doesn't want to allow conservative priests/parishes to answer to G-d fearing bishops in Africa or Asia, this kind of thing is going to happen more often.


4 posted on 01/04/2005 2:46:04 PM PST by Tamar1973 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats-- PJ O'Rourke)
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"Diocese of Scanton"

Wanna buy an "r"?


5 posted on 01/04/2005 2:49:35 PM PST by nuconvert (No More Axis of Evil by Christmas ! TLR)
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Married Catholic priests in the eastern rights have been approved by Rome for generations. Rome is refusing to allow the rest of its priests similar options. I think it would reduce the number of child molesters, and homosexual priests. The big idea of have celibacy is nonsense, especially in today sex obsessed Western societies.


8 posted on 01/04/2005 3:11:47 PM PST by conservlib
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Even before the ECUSA's problems of the last 18 months, there were many married Episcoopal priests who swam the Tiber. I am sure there will be even more over the next few months after the February Primate's meeting where I fear nothing will really happen.


15 posted on 01/04/2005 3:37:10 PM PST by jimbergin
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He is a married priest being accepted into the Roman Catholic priesthood because he couldn't abide his church's sanction of homosexuality. Have I got that right?

Good thing he's not a woman priest. That would have complicated things.

18 posted on 01/04/2005 3:49:44 PM PST by Graymatter (Happy New Year FR!)
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Thanks for posting this. My Priest, and a group of families entered corporately into the RC Church over 20 years ago via the Pastoral Provision.

We also use Rite One of the Book of Divine Worship at our Masses. My Parish, Our Lady of the Atonement in San Antonio was the first Anglican Use Roman Catholic Parish.

http://www.atonementonline.com


25 posted on 01/04/2005 4:04:51 PM PST by sockmonkey
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BTTT


44 posted on 01/04/2005 7:45:22 PM PST by Fiddlstix (This Tagline for sale. (Presented by TagLines R US))
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This has happened two times in the Archdiocese of Portland, Oregon.


49 posted on 01/04/2005 7:55:17 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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52 posted on 01/04/2005 8:02:51 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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80 posted on 01/04/2005 10:02:54 PM PST by murphE ("I ain't no physicist, but I know what matters." - Popeye)
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"I think that the ordination of Robinson is the logical conclusion of the contraceptive mentality. When Lambeth approved contraception for married couples in 1930 they set the stage for the Robinson consecration in 2003. You remove the marital act from its purpose and we bless sterile intercourse. It is not a big jump to bless then sterile homosexual intercourse."

Amen brother.

83 posted on 01/05/2005 4:23:56 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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If the RC church had allowed this in the 70s I am certain that a good number of Catholics would have left the church, become Episcopalian ministers, married and then gone back. I know some who would have in a heart beat.


89 posted on 01/05/2005 4:51:42 AM PST by wtc911 ("I would like at least to know his name.")
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Welcome aboard!


91 posted on 01/05/2005 6:31:42 AM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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In 1980, His Holiness Pope John Paul II granted a Pastoral Provision for the establishment of parishes composed of former Episcopalians which could use a modified liturgy from _The Book of Common Prayer_. There are, at present, six parishes in the USA now using the Anglican Use liturgy. (There are other groups now forming. Canonically, any groups seeking permission to use the Anglican Use liturgy must be composed of former Episcopalians. But once permission is given any Catholic may participate.) These parishes are in the Roman Rite of the Catholic Church, but permitted to have their own distinctive liturgy and also permitted to follow their own customs at Mass.
The Anglican Use Liturgy in the Roman Catholic Church

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94 posted on 01/05/2005 7:55:06 AM PST by NYer ("Blessed be He who by His love has given life to all." - final prayer of St. Charbel)
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In the early 80's I considered being a Catholic priest, but I wanted to marry as well, so I left the Catholic religion altogether. Had I known about this loophole, things may have turned out different.


103 posted on 01/05/2005 8:55:53 AM PST by Sensei Ern
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This would be a MAJOR MSM story.

Not because the priest is married, but because he left the ECUSA order and he is taking 60 parishoners with him. This is a PUBLIC act, I would suggest that each of those 60 represents much more in private acts.


121 posted on 01/05/2005 12:06:20 PM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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is the news here that the Episcopal Church allowed a homosexual into clergy or that the Catholic Church ordained a married man as a priest. Just don't get it.


126 posted on 01/05/2005 12:47:32 PM PST by the invisib1e hand (Leftists Are Losers.)
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I've never understood why Catholics believe their priests shouldn't be married. Then again, I've never understood the Catholic priest thing in the first place.


161 posted on 01/05/2005 3:40:04 PM PST by k2blader (It is neither compassionate nor conservative to support the expansion of socialism.)
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