Smoker's saliva a 'cocktail of chemicals'

Yahoo ^ | 06/02/04 | Reuters

[Colosis]

LONDON (Reuters) - Smoking destroys protective molecules in saliva and transforms it into a dangerous cocktail of chemicals that increases the risk of mouth cancer, scientists say.

"Cigarette smoke is not only damaging on its own, it can turn the body against itself," said Dr Rafi Nagler, of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa, Israel.

Saliva contains antioxidants, molecules that normally protect the body against cancer, but Nagler and his colleagues have discovered that cigarette smoke destroys the molecules and turns saliva into a dangerous compound.

"Our study shows that once exposed to cigarette smoke, our normally healthy saliva not only loses its beneficial qualities but it turns traitor and actually aids in destroying the cells of the mouth and oral cavity," he added.

In research reported in the British Journal of Cancer on Wednesday, Nagler and his team studied the impact of cigarette smoke on cancerous cells in the laboratory.

Half of the cells were exposed to saliva exposed to cigarette smoke and the other half just to the smoke. Cells exposed to the saliva mixture had more damage and it increased along with the time of exposure.

"Most people will find it very shocking that the mixture of saliva and smoke is actually more lethal to cells in the mouth than cigarette smoke alone," Nagler added in a statement.

Smoking and drinking are the leading causes of head and neck or oral cancers, which includes cancer of the lip, mouth, tongue, gums, larynx and pharynx. Nearly 400,000 new cases of the illness are diagnosed worldwide each year with the majority in developing countries. The five-year survival rates are less than 50 percent.

Nagler and his colleagues believe the research could open up new avenues to develop better treatments to prevent oral cancer.

"This insight into how mouth cancer can develop offers more reasons for smokers to try and quit," said Jean King, of Cancer Research UK, which publishes the journal. "People know the link with lung cancer and this research adds compelling evidence about the damage smoking can do to the mouth."

[CSM]

"2.object of devouring, consuming"

Yep. Consumption, just as suspected. Now, why do you get to chose what is acceptable consumption for other people. Should we have to eat all food in the same manner as they did in Christ's time? Or can we use that neat little invention called fire?

[cinFLA]

BTW, in my opinion, using a plant that God put on this earth is also following his plan.

Only if you eat it! BTW, He also says to eat the herb and fruit, NOT the animals.

[VRWC_minion]

Its easy to find commentaries that explain what scripture says about addictions. Its also ludicrous to think that God wants us to stay addicted. Here is one of thousands of hits.

One of the most asked questions I get is: What really is God's will?

The best way to answer the question is with scripture.

Matthew 6 (KJV)

• Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven.

  In teaching the Lord's Prayer, Jesus stated "Thy will be done in earth, as it is in heaven." We need to understand this verse in order to know God's will.

  Do any of you think that any of the following is in heaven?

  1. Sickness

  2. Illness

  3. Injury

  4. Sadness

  5. Depression

  6. Despair

  7. Doubt

  8. Lack

  9. Debt

  10. Relationship problems

  11. Hate

  12. Pre-judice

  13. Stereo-typing

  14. Lust

  15. Envy

  16. Sorcery

  17. Idolatry

  18. Drunkenness

  19. Addictions

  20. Adultery

  21. Fornication,

  22. Uncleanness

  23. Lasciviousness

  24. Envy

  I only listed 24 items but could have gone on exceedingly. If you think any of the above are in heaven, read the scriptures from Galatians 5 below.

  Galatians 5 (KJV)

  19. Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,

20. Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,

21. Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

[cinFLA]

So it's all right to chew but not smoke.

Only if you eat it.

[Just another Joe]

Total: 18Definition:

......1.food
.........1.food, eating
.........2.object of devouring, consuming
............1.by wild beasts (figurative)
............2.in fire
............... 3.of judgment (figurative)

Ahem....You were saying?

[CSM]

Is chewing Juicy Fruit or Doublemint a sin?

[VRWC_minion]

I assume you are free to rewrite the bible anyway you see fit in order to make it fit your own personal world view but the post above gives the accepted meaning of the original hebrew which you quoted. Its a bit of a stretch to consider smoking eating especially if one becomes addicted to it. However given enough twists and turns I'm sure you can make a case that convinces most smokers that God said "go forth, multiply and smoke thy brains out.

[cinFLA]

It is an unwarranted assumption that I am addicted.

I never said you were. I was making a general statement about those with nicotine in their bodies. For example I could say "If you are over the limit in your BAC, you will go to jail" but that makes no assumption on whether or not you personally have even ever had a single drink.

[Just another Joe]

"Conclusions: The results do not support a causal relation between environmental tobacco smoke and tobacco related mortality, although they do not rule out a small effect. The association between exposure to environmental tobacco smoke and coronary heart disease and lung cancer may be considerably weaker than generally believed."

The rest of it only says that what is currently believed may not be true.
Reading comprehension is a good thing.

[Paulus Invictus]

Since neither the gummint nor people like us can save obvious suicides from the side effects of their own decision to die sooner than they might, I allow everyone the choice to chose their method of dying and when. You and all humans are free to chose our desired or optimum life span. Choosing it does not make it so, however. My only point in my post is that emphysema is a terrible and very frightening way to go.

[VRWC_minion]

Didn't you know, Joe is the only smoker in the world that has cigarettes on a regular basis who is not addicted. I am sure he is right that he isn't addicted but if you even slightly imply he is addicted he goes balistic, just like someone in denial would, so don't accuse him of it.

[Just another Joe]

I was making a general statement about those with nicotine in their bodies.

So if a person eats tomatos, they are addicted?

Sounds pretty bogus to me.

[VRWC_minion]

Ahem....You were saying?

See above. Do you actually think the sentence in context refers to smoking ?

[cinFLA]

Reading comprehension is a good thing.

Reading comprehension is a good thing. Please post my post and show where I erred!

[cinFLA]

So if a person eats tomatos, they are addicted? Sounds pretty bogus to me.

Please do some research on addiction and how chemical affect the brain and then come back and post intelligently.

[cinFLA]

Didn't you know, Joe is the only smoker in the world that has cigarettes on a regular basis who is not addicted. I am sure he is right that he isn't addicted but if you even slightly imply he is addicted he goes balistic, just like someone in denial would, so don't accuse him of it.

Cigarettes are safe and not additive. That is what I have seen on this board. That is also what big tobacco said in the fifties before they got caught lying.

[Just another Joe]

How long does a (supposed) addicted person have to go without before they are not addicted?
Does it have to be no more, ever, for the rest of their life? Or ten years? Or a week?
I go without smoking for, at least, three days straight several times a year with no withdrawal symptoms, no cravings, no problem sleeping, etc.

Am I addicted? I don't think so. You can have your own opinion.

[Paulus Invictus]

I quit right after getting out of the service and have remained smoke free for years. My dad smoked for decades, but he didn't die young from lung cancer, but his wife did. He died of a massive heart attack. The smoking was the cause, according to his medicos. Lung cancer does appear to have genetic tags and exposure to all kinds of other irritants can also exacerbate the problem.

[VRWC_minion]

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[Just another Joe]

I posted the relevant portion of your post.
You wrote, "I haven't really seem too many going around saying SHS is a killer but the study does not dispute that there is a link between SHS and coronary heart disease."

It does dispute the current body of evidence about a link between SHS and coronary heart disease.