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Smoker's saliva a 'cocktail of chemicals'
Yahoo ^ | 06/02/04 | Reuters

Posted on 06/02/2004 4:43:14 AM PDT by Colosis

LONDON (Reuters) - Smoking destroys protective molecules in saliva and transforms it into a dangerous cocktail of chemicals that increases the risk of mouth cancer, scientists say.

"Cigarette smoke is not only damaging on its own, it can turn the body against itself," said Dr Rafi Nagler, of the Technion-Israel Institute of Technology in Haifa, Israel.

Saliva contains antioxidants, molecules that normally protect the body against cancer, but Nagler and his colleagues have discovered that cigarette smoke destroys the molecules and turns saliva into a dangerous compound.

"Our study shows that once exposed to cigarette smoke, our normally healthy saliva not only loses its beneficial qualities but it turns traitor and actually aids in destroying the cells of the mouth and oral cavity," he added.

In research reported in the British Journal of Cancer on Wednesday, Nagler and his team studied the impact of cigarette smoke on cancerous cells in the laboratory.

Half of the cells were exposed to saliva exposed to cigarette smoke and the other half just to the smoke. Cells exposed to the saliva mixture had more damage and it increased along with the time of exposure.

"Most people will find it very shocking that the mixture of saliva and smoke is actually more lethal to cells in the mouth than cigarette smoke alone," Nagler added in a statement.

Smoking and drinking are the leading causes of head and neck or oral cancers, which includes cancer of the lip, mouth, tongue, gums, larynx and pharynx. Nearly 400,000 new cases of the illness are diagnosed worldwide each year with the majority in developing countries. The five-year survival rates are less than 50 percent.

Nagler and his colleagues believe the research could open up new avenues to develop better treatments to prevent oral cancer.

"This insight into how mouth cancer can develop offers more reasons for smokers to try and quit," said Jean King, of Cancer Research UK, which publishes the journal. "People know the link with lung cancer and this research adds compelling evidence about the damage smoking can do to the mouth."


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: health; pufflist; smokers; smoking; smokingbans
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To: CSM
Riiiight, the gunpowder didn't have anything to do with it. The exposure to many chemicals had nothing to do with it. Genetics has nothing to do with it. It's all the fault of a few burning tobacco leaves 20 or 50 years ago! How do you expect anyone to take you seriously?

I guess only the smoking veterans were exposed to the gunpowder and the non-smoking veterans were not. hmmm

121 posted on 06/02/2004 10:31:54 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA

Now your the one making claims without the data to back up the claims. Yes, I checked your link and it's filled with claims, but no data!


122 posted on 06/02/2004 10:32:02 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: CSM
It's all the fault of a few burning tobacco leaves 20 or 50 years ago!

No, it's the fault of burning many tobacco leaves every day over the course of years.

123 posted on 06/02/2004 10:34:01 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA

"I guess only the smoking veterans were exposed to the gunpowder and the non-smoking veterans were not. hmmm"

Are you now trying to tell us that only smokers get emphysema? The original claim was that most cases of emphysema were smokers, I responded that most cases of emphysema were also veterans. Both are baseless, much like your logic.


124 posted on 06/02/2004 10:34:05 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: cinFLA

The "list of smoking related illnesses" is HUGE--have you noticed? Including cervical cancer...can you explain that? How is cervical cancer caused by smoking? Especially when the primary cause of most cases of cervical cancer is a venereal wart?

Lots of illnesses that have nothing to do with smoking are tossed arbitrarily into the smoking related illness pot, did you notice that?


125 posted on 06/02/2004 10:34:53 AM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Judith Anne

She's my governor, and no none of these nannystaters bothered to go on that thread. I would suspect it had to do with them not wanting to admit their agenda matches a Dem Canadian!


126 posted on 06/02/2004 10:35:23 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: Judith Anne
Lots of illnesses that have nothing to do with smoking are tossed arbitrarily into the smoking related illness pot, did you notice that?

No. It has been shown that smokers have higher occurrences of those diseases.

127 posted on 06/02/2004 10:36:58 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: cinFLA
Probably from the free cigarettes they were given during the war.

Good grief, man. Compared with being shot, smoking is a candy-assed risk. Why don't you hoof it down to the local VFW and start your campaign there to get veterans to quit smoking. I'll sure they'll welcome you with open arms. While you're on the way there, think about the sacrifices these and other men made so that you and I would have the right to lead our lives as we see fit.

128 posted on 06/02/2004 10:37:02 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi)
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To: CSM

That's exactly MY conclusion. It's clear to me.


129 posted on 06/02/2004 10:37:24 AM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: cinFLA

Provide the proof of your baseless claim!


130 posted on 06/02/2004 10:39:20 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: CSM
I'm not trying to be mean. I just want people to know how painful it is to watch someone who could have quit smoking and didn't (but later wished they had) to know how painful it is. Not just lung cancer, emphysema, etc.

If anyone you know has any mouth sores similar to these please have them checked immediately.

“No other lethal disease is easier to cure when its size is less than 1 cm in diameter than oral cancer."

131 posted on 06/02/2004 10:39:45 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: cinFLA

Can you go ahead and name those diseases? Hmmmm?

And because smokers MAY have higher rates of those diseases (do you really trust statistics?) that proves smoking caused it?

That's the post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy. I'm assuming you're familiar with fallacies, but of course, I could be mistaken.


132 posted on 06/02/2004 10:41:35 AM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: Liberal Classic
Why don't you hoof it down to the local VFW and start your campaign there to get veterans to quit smoking. I'll sure they'll welcome you with open arms. While you're on the way there, think about the sacrifices these and other men made so that you and I would have the right to lead our lives as we see fit.

Cheap shots but you fired blanks.

I have mine.


133 posted on 06/02/2004 10:41:36 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Judith Anne
Can you go ahead and name those diseases? Hmmmm?

I was referring to those you noted as not being smoking related.

134 posted on 06/02/2004 10:43:01 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: Colosis

I shudder to think of the dangers of "second hand saliva"!!!


135 posted on 06/02/2004 10:43:32 AM PDT by Vinnie_Vidi_Vici
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To: cinFLA

So, you actively fought tyranny so that you can take on a tyrannical attitude here? Did you forget the oath you took?

BTW, a Naval Vietnam Service Medal.......I heard even JFnK has one of those and he wasn't all that committed to freedom either.


136 posted on 06/02/2004 10:46:28 AM PDT by CSM (Liberals may see Saddam's mass graves in Iraq as half-full, but I prefer to see them as half-empty.)
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To: bikepacker67
No. I'm in favor of banning the malodorous

I'll live with the malodorous in preference to the whiff of fascism you seem to want.

137 posted on 06/02/2004 10:47:42 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: cinFLA

Fired across the your bow, cinFLA. Now that I have your attention so many people who seem eagar to speak about veterans issues but they also seems to have veiled agendas. I'm not saying that smoking is a good thing, but whether it is healthful or not isn't the issue. The issue is our rights as free people, the same rights you and I signed on the dotted line and raised our right hands to protect from enemies foreign and domestic. Among those rights is property rights, and the property rights issue is at the forefront of anti-smoking ordinances.


138 posted on 06/02/2004 10:48:52 AM PDT by Liberal Classic (No better friend, no worse enemy. Semper Fi)
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To: cinFLA

I only referred to ONE disease, cervical cancer. You have failed to show that it was smoking related, or provide any links which PROVE it, other than a statistical relationship, which is tenuous and non-scientific.

If all you have are statistics, your conclusions are suspect, non-scientific, and arbitrary.

Now, how about that governor who wants to raise taxes on cigarettes and liquor to help the schools? What do you say to her? Shouldn't she just work to ban smoking? After all, one or the other is for the children, she's just not sure that she wants people to quit, is she?


139 posted on 06/02/2004 10:53:14 AM PDT by Judith Anne (HOW ARE WE EVER GOING TO CLEAN UP ALL THIS MESS?)
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To: CSM
BTW, a Naval Vietnam Service Medal.......I heard even JFnK has one of those and he wasn't all that committed to freedom either.

So now you are putting all Vietnam veterans in the JFK camp. Sick.

140 posted on 06/02/2004 10:57:54 AM PDT by cinFLA
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