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Celebrating World No Tobacco Day
FORCES.ORG ^ | May 31, 2004 | FORCES

Posted on 05/31/2004 9:39:17 AM PDT by Gabz

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To: Ditter

Hey,Ditter,haven't you ever heard of "tyranny of the majority"?

So the fact that there are more non-smokers than smokers means smokers should be ostracised?


261 posted on 05/31/2004 7:58:17 PM PDT by Mears
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To: LisaMalia

Lisa, you know you remain in my prayers for your loss.

With that said, I must comment on the the info you provide about the lung cancer you lost your dad to not being associated with smoking.

In reality most people are aware of the fact that lung cancer is caused by a host of things, not just smoking. What a shame that some people are so focused in their anti-smoker beliefs they refuse to acknowlege that.

I understand your point about taxes on other things, but I don't see tobacco being made illegal anytime soon - just because of the tax revenue.

If they make it illegal all the people screaming about smoking will be out of jobs and there no longer be multi-million dollar advertising campaigns.........wait a minute, that doesn't sound like such a bad idea, after all.....


262 posted on 05/31/2004 7:58:57 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Publius6961

I did what again??????

Help - I'm lost.........


263 posted on 05/31/2004 8:00:22 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: ladyinred

I love when I make folks happy!!!!!


264 posted on 05/31/2004 8:01:24 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Gabz
When is this day? The day to have a walk with a pipe!


265 posted on 05/31/2004 8:03:29 PM PDT by A. Pole ("Stating the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men." George Orwell)
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To: Arioch7
I think urban environments tend to breed a bureaucracy first and then proceed leftward. What a shame.

I agree with you - which is why we now live in the absolute middle of nowhere!

Happy Memorial Day to Arioch7 and family as well.

266 posted on 05/31/2004 8:05:10 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Gabz

Mass excise tax on each pack is $1.51 and it has made tax cheats out of lots of people.

Then they insult us more by including the $1.51 when calculating the 5% sales tax.


267 posted on 05/31/2004 8:05:27 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Publius6961

LOL!!!!!!!!

start writing what???????


268 posted on 05/31/2004 8:06:53 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: A. Pole

I'll have to check, but in the past FORCES has done it on October 12.


269 posted on 05/31/2004 8:09:58 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Gabz
If they make it illegal all the people screaming about smoking will be out of jobs and there no longer be multi-million dollar advertising campaigns.........wait a minute, that doesn't sound like such a bad idea, after all.....

I think it's time that happened. I'm tired of the whining idiots.

270 posted on 05/31/2004 8:22:11 PM PDT by LisaMalia (In Memory of Sgt. James W."Billy" Lunsford..KIA 11-29-69 Binh Dinh S. Vietnam)
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To: Mears
The funny part is that I CANT live here even if I wanted to.

Home prices and property taxes are so high that it's not even logical to live here.

Now we have proposition 2 1/2 being voluntarilly rescinded by the towns by override votes of the residents. What the morons who voted for the "Temporay" override don't understand is that 2 1/2 was put in place BECAUSE the Mass. politicians went insane in a left-wing frenzy.

The municipalities now can raise taxes at any time on homeowners. Reading, MA has a tax rate of 7200$ a year for a 500000 dollar house. This is after the FIRST override. There were two and now my friends in Reading will pay more next year.

As far as the Mass Judicial system... I can't even comment, it defies reason. They are insane.

I like Cape Ann a lot better than the Cape myself.

Cape Ann has an amazing history and cool beaches. From Cape Cod north to the Gulf of St. Lawrence marks what is called the Boreal Zone. It's a closed eco-system. Cape Cod south is about 5 degrees warmer than Cape Ann. The Boreal Zone is from the Northern tip of Cape Cod to the Arctic circle north of us.

I have had a blast diving up here. 44 degrees is the average temperature so most folks get certified here and than dive when they go on a vacation in the Caribbean. They can't take the cold, LOL! I don't blame them. Yet, if you buy good stuff, it's no problem diving up here.

271 posted on 05/31/2004 8:22:32 PM PDT by Arioch7
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To: Mears

For 20+ years all I heard, and admittedly promoted myself, was about the tax-free shopping in Delaware. I don't promote it anymore!!!!

Now that I have lived in Virginia for a year, with a 4.5% (goes to 5% August 1) sales tax I can honestly say that is cheaper for me to shop here or in Maryland (only 8 miles away) than in Delaware. The hidden taxes in Delaware are astronomical. I always knew they were there, but didn't realize just how bad they were.

For example, a single item I buy on a regular basis cost me $1.29-$1.39 in Dover with no sales tax. I buy the same item, from the identical chain store here in Virginia and it costs me 99cents, including the sales tax.

When the cigarette tax here goes up August 1 you can bet we will have gone back to making our own. Currently it is cheaper for us to buy our cigs than make them - we get change from a $20 for 2 cartons.


272 posted on 05/31/2004 8:26:06 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: LisaMalia
I'm tired of the whining idiots.

You and me both.

And right now I'm just plain tired - I need t find that pillow in the other room with my name on it.

273 posted on 05/31/2004 8:38:38 PM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Mears

"When the state goes non smoking I will stay home"

That's what I would do, and I hope many people follow your lead. When businesses falter, it hits the state in the tax revenue pocket (the only thing they might understand).


274 posted on 05/31/2004 9:08:02 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Gabz

"She Lion is familiar with the antis that have told me that I am an unfit parent and that CPS will probably be removing my child from my home because I am a smoker."

I am so sorry to hear that - how rude. There are many things that are dangerous and damaging to children, and a smoking parent is just not one of them.

As for the Ruby Tuesdays, I haven't been and now I never will go :)


275 posted on 05/31/2004 9:17:31 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: SheLion

Thanks for the info-it's a great idea I never thought of.


276 posted on 05/31/2004 9:20:22 PM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Annie03

BUMP


277 posted on 06/01/2004 7:16:53 AM PDT by Publius6961 (I don't do diplomacy either.)
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To: Annie03

You really should try it, for a lot of reasons. Number one being price. And then taste. Also the loose tobacco doesn't have all the extra additives in it the way manufactured cigarettes do. Because of this you will find you actually smoke less than you thought you did. Left alone in an ashtray for a short time they go out by themselves.....they don't just burn up.

When we switched about 4 years ago I could smoke at my desk at work......I went from 2 packs of store boughts a day to less than one pack of the homemades.

Also the aroma is very different, and doesn't linger. MY SIL is very sensitive to all kinds of smoke and the first time she came to visit us after we switched she thought we had quit smoking indoors because there was no smoke or tobacco odor in the house, and I had put a cigarette out not 10 minutes before she arrived.


278 posted on 06/01/2004 7:18:08 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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To: Gabz

I ordered this morning from stuff your own! I got priority shipping in hopes it'll get here about the time my present supply runs out. I'm so grateful for this wonderful idea - price wise and because I figured loose tobacco would be more "pure".

I'm sure my dh (who quit several yrs ago - he chews now) and kids will appreciate the odor reduction too. Thanks!


279 posted on 06/01/2004 7:42:51 AM PDT by Annie03 (donate at www.terrisfight.org)
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To: Annie03

Super!!!!

Another benefit - no residue build up on walls and windows.

When we took down all the artwork on the walls of our house when we were packing to move last year.....you couldn't tell where the frames were...........and the walls were white and had not been repainted in a couple of years.

Our real estate agent wasn't aware that we smoked until one day when she was visiting with her daughter and son-in-law next door and I was out front doing some yard work smoking a cigarette!!! and this was a woman who was in and out of my house on a regular basis!!!!


280 posted on 06/01/2004 7:55:40 AM PDT by Gabz (Ted Kennedy has killed more people than all SHS combined.)
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