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Study: We're Eating Ourselves to Death
AP ^ | 03/09/04

Posted on 03/09/2004 5:24:33 PM PST by traumer

Edited on 04/29/2004 2:03:59 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WASHINGTON (AP) - Americans are sitting around and eating themselves to death, with obesity closing in on tobacco as the nation's No. 1 underlying preventable killer.

The government is offering constructive, even lighthearted, advice to fight what it calls an epidemic of expanding waistlines. Americans will be told in a new ad campaign they can lose midsection ``love handles'' and double chins one step at a time if they eat less and exercise more.


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KEYWORDS: health; obesity; pufflist
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To: traumer
"A poor diet and physical inactivity caused 400,000 deaths in 2000, a 33 percent jump over 1990, said a study released Tuesday by the federal Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Tobacco-related deaths in the same period climbed by less than 9 percent and the gap between the two narrowed substantially."

How the heck are these numbers even possible? I am very doubtful in a 33% increased number of deaths statistic. The only way it would be possible is to change the criteria for measuring the data! More government manipulation to create a "crisis" calling for more theft of money.

How has the tobacco use number increased while over the past 20 years there has been a 50% decrease in the rate of smoking? More fictitious data!
41 posted on 03/10/2004 4:52:54 AM PST by CSM (Theft is immoral, taxation is government endorsed theft!)
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To: Rokurota
"What are they going to do? Fat tax? Forced exercise? Illegalization of anything not Tofu?"

Mmmmmmmm, soylent green.
42 posted on 03/10/2004 4:53:35 AM PST by CSM (Theft is immoral, taxation is government endorsed theft!)
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To: SamAdams76
I must say that I have some resentment subsidizing health care for all those who do not take care of themselves.

Stop acting the reformed whore and do what a conservative should do, which is work to get government out of the health care business. Then you won't have to give a damn about anybody else but healthy you and your healthy family.

I'm disappointed, Sam.

43 posted on 03/10/2004 5:25:54 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: CSM
More fictitious data!

Somebody had to say it, and nobody could say it better than you.

44 posted on 03/10/2004 5:27:44 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: Labyrinthos
"I think you're looking in the wrong direction. This is a "commerce clause" issue, which provides the basis for federal interference..."

I can not readily tell if you were being serious or facituous by your remark listed above.

But just in case you are being serious, I would agree the "commerce clause" grants (dubious) jurisdiction and power to the U.S. Congress to "regulate" the food industry.

However, just because Congress has the granted constitutional power and jurisdiction, the laws that Congress enacts and the President signs still cannot violate the Bill of Rights.

This is why the anti-federalist would not ratify the Constitution until the Bill of Rights was added. They feared, in the future, that the granted power and jurisdiction would be misinterpreted and expanded beyond their wildest dreams, thus robbing future generations of the liberty that they tried to secure.

The anti-federalist were correct in their fear.

Many people make the common mistake that the "commerce clause" gives unlimited power to the U.S. Congress to regulate, interfere, deny, and disparage our rights and liberties because the majority rules or certain behavior "cost the taxpayers" a lot of money.

That concept and thinking is wrong.

For example, the commerce clause allows for regulation of the newspaper business. But would that mean the Congress has the power and jurisdiction to regulate the content of newspaper?

No,the 1st amendment prohibits Congress from regulating content.

The same Bill of Rights analysis has to be performed on all legislation proposed by Congress.

Does "federalized" airport security personnel violate the 4th amendment?

Does the minimum wage law violate the 5th amendment?

Does prohibiting citizens from consuming the chemical of their choice and the food of their choice in the quantitites they choose, violate the 9th amendment?

I say yes in all cases. The Bill of Rights was added to the constitution and ratified by the member states to protect our property and personal liberties from being denied and disparaged by our government.

45 posted on 03/10/2004 6:06:17 AM PST by tahiti
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To: traumer
Not to worry. After all the high-paying jobs are outsourced to India and China none of us will be able to afford to eat at the fine fast food restaurants we'll be working at.
46 posted on 03/10/2004 6:25:02 AM PST by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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Actually, I believe the study citing the 300,000 figure for eating related deaths is very understated. In one of the appendices to my book I spend several pages showing how a truer figure might be up around 900,000 when one takes into account cancers attributed to improper diets, accidents occurring due to or post-operative complications caused by gross overweight, increase in diabetes due to diets heavy in sugar, and other such factors. "Deaths Due To Eating" far outweigh "Deaths Due To Smoking." and Big Macs are also killers "when used as directed."

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Michael J. McFadden
Author of "Dissecting Antismokers' Brains"
http://www.Antibrains.com
47 posted on 03/10/2004 7:04:02 AM PST by Cantiloper
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To: Cantiloper
You have a strange knack for showing up just at the appropriate time----don't you, my friend?
48 posted on 03/10/2004 7:06:07 AM PST by Gabz (The tobacco industry doesn't pay cigarette taxes - smokers do!)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Jack-booted food police thugs will pay you a visit. Stay armed, stay safe...

It's now 7:13 am, I'm still here... I guess I escaped them so far. My problem is I still have some strawberries, bisquits and whipped cream left. I'll destroy this evidence tonight. I'll be safe after that...

49 posted on 03/10/2004 7:15:06 AM PST by CommandoFrank (If GW is the terrorist's worst nightmare, Kerry is their wet dream...)
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To: traumer
Other Things to Worry About
50 posted on 03/10/2004 7:16:27 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: Calamari
Wow! So much to worry about.

That really worries me.

51 posted on 03/10/2004 7:24:58 AM PST by metesky ("Brethren, leave us go amongst them." Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton - Ward Bond- The Searchers)
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To: metesky
Yes! And there is more and more to worry about every new day! It gets worrisome,worrying about what new thing we may have to worry about.
52 posted on 03/10/2004 8:22:17 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: tahiti
I can not readily tell if you were being serious or facituous by your remark listed above.

A little bit of each. Your comments on the commerce clause and the bill of rights are interesting and, in my opinion the relationship between the bill of rights and the commerce clause is one of the more interesting aspects of constituional law. Although your central point is correct in that laws and regulations enacted under the commerce clause are subject to the bill of rights, the standard of review under the bill of rights depends upon the type of right at issue. Take for example the regulation of advertizing by the FTC. One would think that the right to free speech under the 1st and 14th amendments would take precedence over the FTC's right to regulate advertizing under the commerce clause. Yet the SCOTUS has held that the commerce clause allows congress to regulate commercial advertizing provided the regulations are rationally related to a legitimate governmental interest even though neither the commerce clause or the 1st/14th amendments contains such language. The same holds true with the regulation of business under the commerce clause and the resulting impact under the due process clause and equal protection clause. One would think for example that in enacting laws under the commerce clause, congress may not violate the equal protection clause. But according the SCOTUS, congress in regulating commerce can treat people and businesses differently provided the need to treat people differently is rationally related to a legitimate governmental interest.

53 posted on 03/10/2004 9:49:58 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: traumer
And check back next week for the gubmint's newest findings: "We're Living Ourselves to Death".
54 posted on 03/10/2004 9:54:45 AM PST by k2blader (Some folks should worry less about how conservatives vote and more about how to advance conservatism)
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To: traumer
"We're just too darn fat, ladies and gentlemen, and we're going to do something about it," Health and Human Services Secretary Tommy Thompson said

Like what, encouraging smoking again?

"Oh great and wise government leadership, lead us to safety, save us from ourselves!"

55 posted on 03/10/2004 10:01:47 AM PST by In_25_words_or_less
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To: metesky; Calamari; Thinkin' Gal
Wow! So much to worry about.
That really worries me.

Me too. So gloomy. I think I'll sit on a wire and sing an anguished song.

56 posted on 03/10/2004 10:08:39 AM PST by In_25_words_or_less
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To: In_25_words_or_less
LOL
57 posted on 03/10/2004 10:26:57 AM PST by Calamari (Pass enough laws and everyone is guilty of something.)
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To: GraniteStateConservative
Be prepared for those food-police JBTs; just get a license to carry fatty foods in paper or plastic, and, for the kids' sake, get a fatty-foods safe. Oh, and always purchase the fig newtons with the child-proof wrapper.
58 posted on 03/10/2004 10:50:13 AM PST by hollywood (Stay on topic, please.)
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To: Sapper26; Servant of the 9; Prodigal Son
>>For years they said smoking will kill me, so I quit. Like many ex-smokers I put on extra weight, now that will kill me. The hell with it, I going to start smoking again.

So9 said the same thing.

Sorry, folks, I made a funny at your expense.

I said, that people who quit smokes, gained weight subsequently, are pissed.
59 posted on 03/10/2004 12:43:52 PM PST by swarthyguy
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To: Labyrinthos
"...the regulation of business under the commerce clause and the resulting impact under the due process clause and equal protection clause."

I agree with you that the "relationship between the bill of rights and the commerce clause is one of the more interesting aspects of constitutional law."

With that being said, I contend that most, if not all of business regulation violates the 5th amendment. ("...nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.")

60 posted on 03/10/2004 3:04:00 PM PST by tahiti
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