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Ask the Imam: It is permissible to lie when taking the oath of allegiance to the United States
Islamic Q & A on-line ^ | 4/25/03 | Mufti Ebrahim Desai

Posted on 01/12/2004 12:21:59 PM PST by Aquinasfan

To become a citizen of US one has to take an oath of allegiance. Is it ok to take the oath?

The oath of allegiance is as follows: I hereby declare, on oath, that I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty, of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen; that I will support and defend the Constitution and laws of the United States of America against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I will bear arms on behalf of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform noncombatant service in the Armed Forces of the United States when required by the law; that I will perform work of national importance under civilian direction when required by the law; and that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; so help me God. They also ask on the citizenship form the following questions: If the law requires it, are you willing to bear arms on behalf of US? If the law requires it, are you willing to perform noncombatant service in the US Armed Forces? If the law requires it, are you willing to perform work of national importance under civilian direction? My question is can we answer yes to these questions? is there anything wrong in doing that. what should the answer be: yes or no? could you please kindly give an urgent answer.

jazakallah.

Answer 8471 2003-04-25

As Muslims, we are duty bound to follow our lives strictly according to Shari’ah. Whatever Shari’ah allows us to do, we will abide by that and whatever Shari’ah has restricted us from, we will refrain from it. Hence, we are not allowed to obey anybody if it is resulting in the disobedience of the Creator, Allah. Nabi (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) said, ‘There is no obedience for the creation by disobeying the Creator.’ (Mirqaat vol.7 pg.217; Imdadiyyah).

Hence, keeping this in mind if one is forced to sign the above in order to become a citizen or the only way of attaining citizenship is by acknowledging the above, then one may sign it with the intention that Shari’ah and Deen will always be his yardstick and that he will never sacrifice any of the teachings of Deen.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
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To: FITZ
I think it's obvious by what keeps happening to India --- the Hindus tried to co-exist but the Muslims demand a separate country so they can have Sharia law. First Pakistan, then Bangledesh, and it's never enough.

First of all, Pakistan does not have Sharia law. It has English Common law with some provisions to accomodate Islam.

Second, East and West Pakistan split from India at the same time in 1947. In 1971 East Pakistan separated from its distant mother country in a civil war and became Bangladesh.

BTW, India has the largest Muslim population of any country.

81 posted on 01/13/2004 10:12:24 AM PST by Looking for Diogenes
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To: ought-six
Mohammad must have been smoking some bad sh!t.

Nah. He had just gone off his meds for too long. Islam could all have been avoided if Mad Mo had kept taking his Haldol.
82 posted on 01/13/2004 10:52:27 AM PST by Kozak (Anti Shahada: " There is no God named Allah, and Muhammed is his False Prophet")
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To: RonHolzwarth
You have entirely missed the point of situational ethics as a foundation for a religion and a situation over riding the rules of ethics.

I of course suspect that you are not that stupid, that you are however that deliberate. Because of that I question how stupid I would be arguing with a deliberate fool.

Tell me are you deliberate or just a fool?

Must I point out the diference between Judao-Christian ethics with the concept of sin, Ie the taking of life vs Islam's shame concept that the taking of life is not a sin, it's whos life you take?

My guess is you do not wish to argue interesting cultural differences that are causing a third world war, but are hoping to slander and run.

Kinda like a kid with a spray paint can.
83 posted on 01/14/2004 7:12:56 AM PST by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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Can I join the United States Army?

Please tell me.

Answer 6852 2002-10-04

It is not permissible to join the United State’s Army.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

84 posted on 01/14/2004 12:24:37 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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So much for Mohammedanism and democracy

How is a Islamic government supposed to be? I mean how do you elect the ruler, is he elected for life, etc, etc; how does it run?

Is Islamic government from any of the present-day governments or are they all wrong? I mean is it supposed to be present-day democracy, parliamentary, communist, dictatorship, etc? Also how is the economy supposed to be e.g. capitalist, socialist, communist etc, etc? Please explain because I am taking a government class in school and we are studying different types of governments and economies.

Answer 6831 2002-10-04

In principle, according to Shari’ah there are 3 ways of electing a ruler:

Bay’at: Taking allegiance to a particular person, like the companions took allegiance to Abu Bakr (Radhiallaahu Anhu).

Deputism: A current ruler consults his council and stipulates a ruler after his demise.

Consultation: Ruler appoints certain responsible citizens and hands over the autonomy of appointing a ruler after his demise. (Rafun Niqaab vol.6 pg.145; HM Saeed)

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai


85 posted on 01/14/2004 12:26:59 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The jihads in Chechnya and Palestine are legitimate:

Is the Jihad in Chechny and Palestine a ligimit Jihad?

I have heared people say that the Jihad in Chechnya an Palestine are land issues as they have started out as land Issues.2. Is it permissable for Chechens to attack Russia to make the people feel what they are going through ? 3. Please explain this ayat "wa qaatilul mushrikeena khaaffatan kama yuQatillunakum Kaaffa" Is the Jihad in Chechny and Palestine a ligimit Jihad ? I have heared people say that the Jihad in Chechnya an Palestine are land issues as they have started out as land Issues.2. Is it permissable for Chechens to attack Russia to make the people feel what they are going through ? 3. Please explain this ayat "wa qaatilul mushrikeena khaaffatan kama yuQatillunakum Kaaffa"

Answer 7104 2002-12-03

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1. The two Jihaads are legitimate Jihaads.

2. The Mujahideen of Chechnya have proven that their aim is to establish Islam, not simply to acquire land. In Palestine, there are many groups. Those fighting to establish Islam are undertaking a correct Shar’ee Jihaad. Those who do not have Islam as their aim are Munafiqeen. Their harm to Islam is even greater than that of Israel.

3. The Aayaat means that when the Kuffaar are hostile to you than fight them completely, just as they fight your completely. You should not hold back anything and put all your resources behind the Jihaad.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Moulana Imraan Vawda
FATWA DEPT.


86 posted on 01/14/2004 12:31:00 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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If it is haraam to commit suicide bombings?

How can suicide bombings be accepted, knowing that palestinians can use other methods to hurting the enemies without killing themselves?

Answer 6284 2002-07-29

Kindly refer below our standard reply to similar queries.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

Q: What is your opinion on the suicide bombers in Palestine?

A: If a community is oppressed and denied its basic human rights, it is permissible for them to fight against the oppressors and free themselves from such oppression. It is permissible for them to engage in Jihaad - risking their lives in the hope of saving themselves from oppression. The people of Palestine are the most oppressed people and live in constant fear by the rule of the Jewish oppressors. Their extreme frustration and hardships have led them to behave likewise - to resort to suicide bombings. Assuming the suicide bombing is evil but this evil is opposed by a greater evil for which there is no adequate substitute, therefore, their act will also be justified as lesser of the two evils in terms of the Shari'ah.


87 posted on 01/14/2004 12:33:25 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: Aquinasfan
Makes one wonder about the muslims who post here...there are a few...
88 posted on 01/14/2004 12:35:30 PM PST by wtc911 (I would like at least to know his name)
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
You are so wrong boy! The ethics of Islam is what is wrong not the Arab. There are many Jewish, and Christian Arab who are more ethical than most of the Anglo-saxon that I have known. The problem stems from Islam, and its hate of the infidels. If your upbringing is teaching you to hate cats, you will have hard time being nice to any cat!
89 posted on 01/14/2004 12:54:22 PM PST by philosofy123
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To: philosofy123
First, at 54 I'm not a boy.

Second, I have dealt with many arabs, a few who are not muslim, and I see no difference in attitude toward lying.

Third I was not talking about hate, I was speaking about their tendency to lie, without concern, if it furthers their end. Having lived in several countries and traveling to many more, I find this trait as bad in the arab world as anywhere I have been.

90 posted on 01/14/2004 7:22:04 PM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (PEACE - Through Superior Firepower)
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To: Aquinasfan
Islam sucks. Im sick of being tolerant. A religion that claims a billion adherents and the silence from them over their abuse of women, hatred of the west, and terrorism is deafening.
91 posted on 01/14/2004 7:38:09 PM PST by cardinal4 (Hillary and Clark rhymes with Ft Marcy park...)
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To: cardinal4
A religion that claims a billion adherents and the silence from them over their abuse of women, hatred of the west, and terrorism is deafening.

I think their policy of imposing the death penalty for apostates has something to do with that.

The media portrayal of Mohammedanism as a "religion of peace" is appalling.

It seems to me that Mohammedanism can only be reformed from without. That's why the precedent of establishing a democracy in Iraq is so important.

92 posted on 01/15/2004 4:48:25 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: wtc911
Makes one wonder about the muslims who post here...there are a few...

We haven't seen any refutations yet, have we? Then again, if it's permissible to lie in taking the oath of allegiance to the United States, then you have to wonder whether their answers can be trusted at all.

93 posted on 01/15/2004 4:53:19 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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As we both know the history of shah waliullah, saluhuddin, nurruduin, etc. They reformed firmly and with eman. Now in the 21st century it is again ignorance with Muslims and kaafir [non-Mohammedans]

shaik abdul wahhab najd. rahmatullahalai. and many more. How these illustrious people changed Islam and kaafir history. They reformed firmly and with eman. Now in the 21st century it is again ignorance with Muslims and kaafir . There are 2 groups now, the tablighy people allhamdullilah and the al qaida group . One group has no violence and the other full of violence. The ummat is really suffering. Like Palestine, Iraq, Afghanistan, Iran e.t.c. Thanks to America and other countries. No pathetic Muslim country has enough guts to go against them.. An if they do they are destroyed. I want to know is there any way to reform, should we wait for a leader like slahuddin ayubi (rah). I know what imam malik (rah) says but maybe that's for maybe for the next century, (Who knows exept ALLAH ).i was thinking if a good muslim person (shariat abiding) runs for leader in a a mulim country with citizens that are good or half good. make the country have a good economy good army good technology and put shariat. Make them grow there own food and only export from Muslim countries and not dependent on non Muslim countries like America. Then the country would have more population and good economy. Tabligh jammat is good but it would be better in a good shariat country. tabligh has been going for many years Muslims have become better but at the same time Muslims have lost land power and dignity. Tabligh and al qaida both wont work in the long run.

Answer 9876 2003-10-14

May Allah Ta’ala increase your zeal and enthusiasm for Muslim empowerment. For that, two ingredients are important: a) Self reformation, and b) Political empowerment. Political empowerment can be achieved only through self reformation, personality and spiritual building. Consider the history of our dynamic Islam.

The period in Makkah Mukarramah was of spiritual and personality building. Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) and the Sahaaba (Radhiallaahu Anhum) were instructed to wake up in the middle of the night and perform Tahajjud. They were instructed to bear and persevere the oppression and persecution of the enemies. They simply could not retaliate. Many years went by like that. Allah Ta’ala could have given His beloved Rasul (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) power immediately. When Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) came to Madina Munawwarah then Allah Ta’ala instructed him to establish a complete Islamic state with all its necessary structures.

Consider the sequence that was nurtured by none other than Allah – spiritual and personality development, then empowerment. This is the only way to obtain success and power even today. Allah Ta’ala states in the Qur’aan, ‘Allah promises those people who bring Imaan and do righteous deeds that He will make then vicegerents on earth.’

If this order is not adopted, then no empowerment will be of any use. Consider the position of the countries under Muslim rule. How much Islam is there in them? The shortcoming is due to the lack of spiritual and personality building. Had that been there, they would never be subject to rules alien to Islam. Submission to Shari’ah and advancing its cause would be their agenda and priority in all conditions – favourable and adverse. Every Muslim should realise this and endervour in every way and measure to empower the Ummah by reforming himself and whoever he/she can. It is the sensitivity to Deen that is the stepping stone for upliftment to Deen. Muslim rulers and people of position should fear Allah Ta’ala and also be sensitive to Deen. They should use their positin to advance the cause of the Ummah instead of protecting and preserving their private interests.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

94 posted on 01/15/2004 5:02:57 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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In an Islamic state non-muslim has to pay tax [a special tax on non-Mohammedans] ,what if that non-muslim is poor?

Answer 6532 2002-08-28

If he is genuinely poor, then there is no tax.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Moulana Imraan Vawda
FATWA DEPT.

CHECKED AND APPROVED CORRECT: Mufti Ebrahim Desai

95 posted on 01/15/2004 5:09:59 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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answer 6284 - I would greatly appreciate any specific examples from Quran or Hadith to legitimize regarding suicide bombings as a means of resistance to Israeli occupation of Palestine?

Answer 6356 2002-08-09

In principle, every Shar'ee ruling is not expressly and explicitly found in the Qur'aan or Hadith.

Many rulings are deduced. The basis of our ruling is 'lesser of the two evils'. This is a juridical ruling unanimously expounded by all jurists.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

96 posted on 01/15/2004 5:12:43 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Please could you help me, I am on the verge of losing my iman. I am a recent convert to islam, I converted to islam because of the peace, as well as being convinced its the truth. Very recently I have been talking to come ‘jihadis’, who say if Islam brings me peace, I have chosen the wrong religion, they tell me the blood of every kafir is halal, and that it is permissible to kill any non muslim whether they are oppressing you or not. For example, they say it would be permissible to go to somewhere like Bolivia, and kill all the local inhabitants for the sin of not being non-muslim. I have also been told that rape during jihad is permissible. Please save my imaan. They also tell me if I feel sorry for any kafir, I am a munafiq, and I am one of them. Please save my imaan. I work with several Americans, how should my relationship be with them? According to these guys, I should kill them, just for the sin of holding an American passport. Look forward to hearing from you shortly. Jazakallah khair.

Answer 6184 2002-07-18

Kindly refer below our standard reply to a similar query.

The statement, 'promoted killing of non-Muslims' is vague and sweeping and is very much open to misinterpretation. Yes, Rasulullah (Sallallaahu Alayhi Wasallam) promoted the killing of these non-Muslims who are actively engaged in destroying Islam and the Muslims. This is the command of Allah Ta'ala Himself in the Qur'aan. This type of killing is not simply permissible, but commendable and worthy of reward. This does not mean that Islam teaches to kill all non-Muslims.

If, for example, a Muslim intentionally kills a non-Muslim citizen of the Islamic state, then in retribution the Muslim's life will be taken. This indicates that even the life of a non-Muslim is sanctified, if he does not oppose Islam and the Muslims.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Moulana Imraan Vawda
FATWA DEPT.

CHECKED AND APPROVED CORRECT: Mufti Ebrahim Desai

97 posted on 01/15/2004 5:21:48 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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As jihad is fard ayn why are scholars so scared to incite the believers to do jihad,

is the UK dar-ul-harb, are we allowed to steal from the kuffar fe-sabillah. Why are the scholars in the UK not telling us about Jehad and how important it is?

Answer 5110 2002-05-24

A place may be classified as Daarul Harb if the following conditions are found:

a) The government implements total un-Islamic law in the country, to such an extent that Muslims are not able to practice their religion freely.

b) This state is surrounded by other states with similar conditions (un-Islamic) and not surrounded by an Islamic state.

c) Peace and safety of Muslims is in danger. They may attacked at anytime, because of them being deprived of safety from the side of the government. (Shaami vol.4 pg.175; Karachi)

If the above criteria are fulfilled, a state may be called Darul Harb. However, in default in any of the conditions it may not be considered as Darul Harb, hence, all the laws pertaining to Darul Harb may not apply.

We are unable to comment on these queries, due to it being very intricate. Such issues should be discussed with other scholars and jurists before formulating an opinion.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

98 posted on 01/15/2004 5:28:52 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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What do you think with Usama bin Laden being involved with the bombing with them having no evidence and the taliban

Answer 3769 2002-03-16

At this stage, the FBI did not charge Usama ibn Laadin and Taliban for being involved in the bombing as they are still investigating the matter. It is not appropriate to draw conclusions based on assumptions.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai

99 posted on 01/15/2004 5:33:49 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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Please differentiate between disapproving the attacks against the US and approving of attacks against Israel.

In reading answers to previous questions, you mentioned that the attacks against the US are not justified because among other things they killed women (and children). However, you also mentioned the attacks against the Israeli occupation of Palestine are justified because( among other things) it is the lesser of two evils. Is this saying that those laws which say the US attacks were wrong does not apply because of what Israel is doing? If that is the case, being that the US is helping Israel with the occupation of our land( and that cant be argued ) why are the laws also not compromised to let us kill Americans? Please give me an exact difference. Also, if Allah wants us to hate Jews and we are "better" than them, why did Allah let them ovecome all the Islam states and the Palestinains in the wars of '48 and '67 abnd let them occupy Palestine?

Answer 3991 2002-03-07

There is a difference between the US situation and the Palestinian situation. The land in the US does not belong to Muslims, whereas Palestine belongs to us.

The Jews have occupied our land and the whole territory has become a Warfield. That is not so in the US. The implications of being in a Warfield is different from that land which is not a Warfield.

and Allah Ta'ala Knows Best

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100 posted on 01/15/2004 5:36:37 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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