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Three Centuries Before Christ's Birth, People Celeberated 25 December, Archaeologists Claim
Independent (UK) ^ | 12-24-2003 | Dr David Keys

Posted on 12/23/2003 3:20:28 PM PST by blam

Three centuries before Christ's birth, people celebrated 25 December, archaeologists claim

By David Keys Archaelology Correspondent
24 December 2003

Archeologists say they have traced the origins of the first Christmas to be celebrated on 25 December, 300 years before the birth of Christ. The original event marked the consecration of the ancient world's largest sun god statue, the 34m tall, 200 ton Colossus of Rhodes.

It has long been known that 25 December was not the real date of Christ's birth and that the decision to turn it into Jesus's birthday was made by Constantine, the Roman Emperor, in the early 4th century AD. But experts believe the origins of that decision go back to 283 BC, when, in Rhodes, the winter solstice occurred at about sunrise on 25 December.

The event was preserved by academics on Rhodes or in Alexandria, and seems to have been passed to Caesar by the Hellenistic Egyptian scientists, who advised him on his calendrical reforms.

The date was chosen because the emperor seems to have believed that the Roman sun god and Christ were virtually one and the same, and the sun's birthday had been decreed as 25 December some 50 years earlier by one of Constantine's predecessors, the Emperor Aurelian. He, in turn, seems to have chosen 25 December because, ever since Julius Caesar's calendar reforms of 46 BC, that date had been fixed as the official winter solstice, even though the real date for the solstice in Caesar's time was 23 December.

Dr Alaric Watson, one of the British historians involved in the current research and author of the major book on the period, Aurelian and the Third Century, said: "Constantine's choice of 25 December as the day on which to celebrate the birth of his divine patron, Christ, must be viewed in terms of the tradition on which Aurelian had drawn and which may well have originated in the celebration of the winter solstice at Rhodes some six centuries earlier.

"Constantine clearly saw his divine patron, initially Sol Invictus but later Christ, in much the same way as Aurelian had done. The imagery of Christ, like that of the ruler cults of the Hellenistic and Roman worlds, owed much to solar theology."

Jesus's real date of birth is not known, although various different pre-4th century traditions and computations put it either in the January to March period or in November.


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KEYWORDS: 25; archaeologists; birth; celebrated; centuries; christmas; christs; churchhistory; december; godsgravesglyphs; origins
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar
I read the short (single volume) of "The Golden Bough" some years ago. (The novel "Day of the Arrow" and movie "Eye of the Devil" were based on ideas from "The Golden Bough.")

But did Fraser get his title (as the movie-makers did) from:

Bring me my Bow of burning gold;
Bring me my Arrows of desire;
Bring me my Spear: O clouds, unfold:
Bring me my Chariot of Fire!

101 posted on 12/24/2003 9:38:41 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: lizma
This year we got gifts from several Jewish people, 2 Buddist, 2 Hindus, a Shinto and a Muslim.

Sounds like the group I used to go caroling with during grad school days.

102 posted on 12/24/2003 9:41:56 AM PST by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
According to Frasier, it has to do with the priesthood at Lake Nemi in Italy.

"Within the sanctuary at Nemi grew a certain tree of which no branch might be broken. Only a runaway slave slave was allowed to break off, if he could, one of it's boughs. Success in the attempt entitled him to fight the priest in single combat, and if he slew him he reigned in his stead with the title of The King of The Wood."
According to the ancients this branch was the Golden Bough.

The book then goes into a deeeep study of world superstitions.
Be warned, it is not a pro-Christian book.
103 posted on 12/24/2003 12:37:11 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Are the DU'rs priests of Attis? (snicker, snicker))
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To: Professional Engineer
ping
104 posted on 12/25/2003 9:51:01 AM PST by msdrby (US Veterans: All give some, but some give all.)
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To: colorado tanker
What the athiests are spreading about Mithraism is a lot of bull fertilizer based on what Mr. Ulansey concedes is "extremely sparse" evidence.

That's what it looked like to me as well.

I'm willing to concede there is some overlap in ancient religions - most have a "great flood" story, for instance. I also recognize that many of our current Christmas and Easter traditions derive from earlier pagan customs.

However, there seemed to be just a bit TOO MUCH overlap in the "Mithra legend" as proposed by the atheists.

105 posted on 12/25/2003 6:13:32 PM PST by Amelia ("We have met the enemy and he is us." -- Pogo)
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To: ckilmer
Thanks for that post ;) Good info
106 posted on 12/25/2003 8:17:02 PM PST by Havoc ("Alright; but, that only counts as one..")
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To: carpio
BTTT
107 posted on 02/06/2004 5:46:39 PM PST by carpio
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