[lockjaw02]

The only Onondaga County business to receive a smoking ban waiver under the criteria of showing at least a 15% loss of business and now they're being investigated and threatened with closure. "Open up your books and show us you're hurting and just maybe we'll contemplate giving waivers," they say. Yep, I'm from the government and I'm here to "help" you.

[lockjaw02]

ping

[Great Dane]

They don't waste any time killing business, do they... anything to ban smoking, wonder who is really behind the investigation. ??

[qam1]

Yep, That's why these waviers are such a joke, Nobody's going to open their books. There are just so many BS regulations in New York State for a buisness to follow that it's next to impossible not to be breaking one or more at any giving time.

The Boosters Club and any other charity that gets money from this Bingo will now be left out in the cold.

Way to go Pataki

[breakem]

either there is not enough serious crime there or there are way too many law enforcement officers.

[Conspiracy Guy]

Busting the beat and blow.

[Just another Joe]

We probably have a pretty good idea where the power behind the investigation is coming from if this was one of the only places to get a smoking waiver.

[CSM]

Lock,

Your post made the United Pro Smoking Newsletter:

http://193.78.190.200/smokersclub/new254.htm

[songspirit]

As much as I think smoking laws in New York are not great, supporting the Syracuse Brigadiers and their scam, er... bingo "fundraising" is not the thing smokers ought to be supporting.

The State is doing a service to your state and to drum & bugle corps by putting these people under scrutiny. The people involved in running this "business" have also been involved in destroying genuine drum & bugle corps and putting business interests (i.e., profits for a few) ahead of other considerations. Drum & bugle corps, like the kids involved, are getting short-changed. This has been going on for decades in drum & bugle corps.

For more information, refer to the Usenet group rec.arts.marching.drumcorps - which can be accessed via the web at groups.google.com

If anti-smoking-ban people are going to be successful in restoring saner laws, they should look for responsible, open and above-board people to associate with. Not these guys.

-- Catherine