[hunter112]

People said the same thing about mixed race couples 30-40 years ago. I'd bet there are people who read FR who still think that.

Simple fact, lesbians being able to have children from sperm bank donations (or friends with turkey basters) will not go away. Whether or not we believe that the parents are good or evil, should the kids suffer? Are they not blameless for the conditions of their conception, birth, and upbringing?

[LiberalSlayer99]

Personally, I could care less what 2 adults do in the privacy of their own homes. If they want to be gay I don't have a problem with it. It's their lives. I DO have a problem with gay couples having children via sperm banks/adoption. I won't even get into the religious argument that some FReepers will enjoin, but the bottom line here is that gays having kids violate the laws of nature. Bottom line. They can't have kids on their own. The equipment doesn't function that way.

Your statement about mixed race couples doesn't hold water. You're comparing apples and oranges. Even with mixed race hetero couples, the equipment still works...naturally.

[concerned about politics]

Whether or not we believe that the parents are good or evil, should the kids suffer?

Have you ever look straight into the eyes of an innocent child? Have you ever looked into the eyes of a homosexual? Big difference. One saintly, the other lusting for a sexual satisfaction they'll never find.
It's not good to leave children around homosexuals. There's something evil about them. They're like sexual vampires, always thirsty, but never quenched.

[fml]

--People said the same thing about mixed race couples 30-40 years ago. I'd bet there are people who read FR who still think that. --

Maybe so, but the difference is mixed race couple are able to make their own offspring proving the predjudice wrong - gays still must rely on the opposite sex to help creat life. They need what they reject and they reject what they need.

[ArGee]

People said the same thing about mixed race couples 30-40 years ago.

Try using that gray matter between your ears when discussing current events.

If you find a corpse, you will be able to tell whether it was black or white. You will not be able to tell whether it was gay or straight.

Color is an attribute. "Orientation" is a behavior.

Shalom.

[tom h]

"Whether or not we believe that the parents are good or evil, should the kids suffer? Are they not blameless for the conditions of their conception, birth, and upbringing?"

You have a good heart, hunter, and I for one would never advocate that the "kids suffer." But homosexual households are not optimum for child-rearing. The same for households in vermin-infested inner cities or in backwater Georgia or Oklahoma -- pick your steretype.

So ... when intervention is indicated (meaning the only legal guardian dies) in one of these non-optimum situations, the Gov't should get involved. A birth mother passes away and the second "mom" is not a legal guardian. Tough. The child goes to the grandparents or a foster home. That's what would happen in a heterosexual situation. They would not give the child automatically to the live-in man even if he professed love for the child.

The kids are blameless but unfortunately sometimes the state has to make decisions about the kid's fate if the parents have failed or disaster has struck. And that decision should not default to placing the child with the parent's latest "lover."

[longtermmemmory]

Perhaps, but the damage of a lesbian relationship can and IS used to prevent a homosexual woman from getting custody of children when she comes "out". In fact it is quite normal to demand and require supervised visitation of minor children.

It should also be noted that homsexual relationships that turn violent (male and female) are really nasty in domestic violence court. They really go for blood when annoyed at each other.

[MSCASEY]

Whether or not we believe that the parents are good or evil, should the kids suffer? Are they not blameless for the conditions of their conception, birth, and upbringing?

It seems that they do not care enough to ask themselves that question. Its not about the child only them! I agree with you that says something about the kind of parent they are.

MCD