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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Battle of Camden (8/16/1780) - Sep. 23rd, 2003
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Posted on 09/23/2003 12:11:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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The Battle of Camden

Background: The British Campaign


British Lt. General Sir Henry Clinton had arrived in South Carolina in March and had undertaken a deliberate approach to the city of Charleston, South Carolina. He had been a part of the failed attack on Charleston in June 1776. On that occasion, the British had chosen a naval approach and attacked Fort Sullivan. Clinton had learned from that mistake and this time slowly isolated the city by land. On April 14, at the Battle of Monck's Corner, Lt. Colonel Banastre Tarleton cut off the last line of communication for Maj. General Benjamin Lincoln, Continental commander of Charleston.

On May 12, 1780, General Lincoln surrendered Charleston. Five thousand Continental soldiers became prisoners of war and enormous stores of munitions were lost. After the victory, General Clinton sailed north back to New York City leaving Lt. General Charles Cornwallis in command. Clinton's orders to Cornwallis were simple: he was to hold the port cities of Charleston and Savannah, Georgia firmly under British control. He could carry on operations in the backcountry any way he wished, as long as he maintained control of those two cities.


Plan of the Battle of Camden, 16 August 1780


On May 29, 1780, at Waxhaws, Lt. Colonel Tarleton caught up with a small Continental force retreating to North Carolina. Colonel Abraham Buford had turned back after learning that General Lincoln had surrendered. With that defeat, the lone remaining Continental force in the South was at Deep River, North Carolina. Maj. General Baron De Kalb and over a thousand Maryland and Delaware Continentals had left Morristown, New Jersey on April 16 with orders from General George Washington to reinforce General Lincoln. They had made it to North Carolina, when word of Charleston's surrender reached them. De Kalb had halted and made camp, while awaiting new orders from Washington.

Background: Horatio Gates - The Hero of Saratoga


Even before General Lincoln surrendered Charleston, the Continental Congress had chosen his replacement as Continental Commander of the Southern Department. General Washington had recommended Maj. General Nathanael Greene for the command, but Congress instead chose Maj. General Horatio Gates. Gates had been lobbying Southern congressmen through a stream of letters, he began lobbying southern congressmen. On May 7, the Continental Congress chose Gates to replace General Lincoln. On June 13, Gates received word of his appointment and left for the South immediately. On July 25, 1780, Gates arrived at the Deep River camp and took command from General de Kalb.


General Horatio Gates


General Gates immediately ordered that the army be prepared to march at a moment's notice, in spite of the deplorable condition of the force. On July 27, he set out with his army for Camden, South Carolina. Camden was central to controlling the back country of South Carolina because of its crossroads location near the Wateree River and the Catawba (Indian) Trail. Gates had chosen a direct march to Camden through difficult, swampy terrain over the advice of his officers who were familiar with the area. They had recommended a route that would have started out west, then turned south. It was more indirect, but was a route through Patriot-friendly regions, which meant food and supplies. Not only was the route that Gates had chosen more difficult, but it was through unfriendly territory.

Background: Marching Armies


Sometime after July 27, Francis Marion joined Maj. General Horatio Gates' army. Gates now met Marion and his band of militia for the first time and found their appearance so shabby that it was a distraction to the regulars. He took little time in detaching Marion with orders to gather intelligence on the movements of the British. During the march, Gates sent Lt. Colonel William Washington and his cavalry away, because he did not think cavalry would be of use in the South.


Francis Marion


General Gates also weakened his force during this time by sending 400 men, including 100 Maryland regulars to assist Thomas Sumter, who had requested reinforcements to conduct his own raids. It appears that Gates' original strategy was to use Marion and Sumter to cut off Camden's supply lines from the south. This action would leave Camden vulnerable and force the British to evacuate their garrison without a fight.


Colonel Lord Rawdon


General Gates had counted on Lt. General Charles Earl Cornwallis remaining in Charleston. Camden was held by a garrison of about 700 men under Lt. Colonel Lord Rawdon. However, on August 9, General Cornwallis received word from Lord Rawdon of General Gates' approach and he immediately set out for Camden, arriving on August 13. Meanwhile, Gates had found the going difficult and anticipated supplies had not turned up along the route. The men had ended up eating green apples and peaches.


Lt. General Charles Earl Cornwallis


On August 15, General Gates issued orders for a night approach to Camden. The evening's meal had been topped off with a dessert of molasses that had dire effects on the digestion of the men. At the same time, General Cornwallis had ordered a night march in preparation for an early morning attack on Gates at Rugeley's Mill. As Gates' Continental force marched south on the evening of the 15th, men often broke ranks as the molasses took its stomach churning effect.

At about 2:00 A.M. on August 16, 1780, General Gates' Continental force General Cornwallis' British force literally ran into each other on the Waxhaws road about ten miles from Camden. The forward cavalry screens of Continental Colonel Charles Armand and Lt. Colonel Tarleton clashed and skirmished in the dark. The cavalry was pushed back into the marching columns causing confusion until 100 Virginia state troops maintained formation and steadied the Continentals.



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To: SAMWolf
LOL!
61 posted on 09/23/2003 10:00:09 AM PDT by colorado tanker (USA - taking out the world's trash since 1776)
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To: SAMWolf
Thank you for the pictures. Our Troops look happy to be handing the city over.
62 posted on 09/23/2003 10:30:29 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
He gained glory that General Gates would gladly have acquired at the same cost.

I think they mispoke here.

Took them over a century to erect the momument. Bureaucracies!

63 posted on 09/23/2003 10:35:12 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: colorado tanker
Gates=Clark. Yep. Politicians first it seems.
64 posted on 09/23/2003 10:36:08 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Another of the Iowa Rock Art:


65 posted on 09/23/2003 11:47:09 AM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: GailA
Those rocks are great. Thanks Gail.
66 posted on 09/23/2003 11:48:04 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA; snippy_about_it; *all
Afternoon GailA. Love those rock paintings.

They just announced that the Muslim Chaplain has been charged with espionage.
67 posted on 09/23/2003 12:02:51 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline has been cruelly tested on cute little furry animals.)
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To: SAMWolf
Charged. Good! Now to a quick trial I hope and if guilty a quick punishment.
68 posted on 09/23/2003 12:12:27 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
I heard they detained two more people at Gitmo on suspicion of espionage. Time to clean house in the Military.
69 posted on 09/23/2003 12:20:49 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline has been cruelly tested on cute little furry animals.)
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To: snippy_about_it
I think it is just ONE rock with a painting of different scenes on each side.
70 posted on 09/23/2003 12:38:44 PM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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An Air Force airman who worked at the U.S. prison camp for suspected terrorists at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base (search) has been charged with espionage and aiding the enemy, a military spokesman said Tuesday.

Senior Airman Ahmad I. al-Halabi worked as an Arabic language translator at the prison camp for Al Qaeda and Taliban suspects, spokesman Maj. Michael Shavers said. The Air Force enlisted man knew the Muslim chaplain at the prison arrested earlier this month, but it's unclear if the two arrests are linked, Shavers said.

Oops I heard it wrong. It wasn't the Chaplain it was another soldier.

71 posted on 09/23/2003 12:42:08 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline has been cruelly tested on cute little furry animals.)
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To: SAMWolf
Heck, knowing the news media it was probably reported wrong. ;)

Either way. I hope they 'clean' them all out.
72 posted on 09/23/2003 12:47:49 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Well I was going a a radio report.
73 posted on 09/23/2003 1:03:41 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline has been cruelly tested on cute little furry animals.)
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To: SAMWolf
Wonder what the status is of that military guy is that was accused of tossing the grenades in Kuwait?
74 posted on 09/23/2003 1:33:33 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
Evening friends. Nice thread, Sam.


75 posted on 09/23/2003 5:41:16 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The Tombot's motto is: "I'm opposed to whatever Arnold says, and most definitely against it")
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To: snippy_about_it; AntiJen; MistyCA; PhilDragoo; All
Oops I clicked too fast! I forgot my ping list, LOL.

Post # 75 is for you too.

76 posted on 09/23/2003 5:43:17 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The Tombot's motto is: "I'm opposed to whatever Arnold says, and most definitely against it")
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good evening Victoria, nice pictures.
77 posted on 09/23/2003 5:48:01 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Evening Victoria. Really nice slideshow tonight.
78 posted on 09/23/2003 5:48:01 PM PDT by SAMWolf (This tagline has been cruelly tested on cute little furry animals.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Thank you, thank you. I was so excited to post it that I clicked too fast and forgot my ping list, hahahaha.
79 posted on 09/23/2003 6:00:32 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul (The Tombot's motto is: "I'm opposed to whatever Arnold says, and most definitely against it")
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To: Victoria Delsoul; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Great pix Victoria, but I don't hear any music tonight. Are my ears not working?

Hi Sam and Snippy! Thanks for today's thread.
80 posted on 09/23/2003 6:08:13 PM PDT by Jen (Support our troops! Share the news of our military's successes that the liberal media won't report.)
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