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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Mountain Meadows Massacre (9/11/1857) - Sep. 11th, 2003
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Posted on 09/11/2003 12:00:34 AM PDT by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.


God Bless America
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The Mountain Meadows Massacre


The years of 1855-56 had been particularly harsh on the Mormon settlements around the Great Salt Lake. Through their difficulties were due to normal things like drought and insect infestation, the Mormons believed they were being punished by God for their sins. All people were called upon to confess and represent. For some sins, the only way of achieving forgiveness was the doctrine of "blood-atonement." This meant that one had to shed their own blood. Unfortunately, things got out of control when some Mormons extended the shedding of blood to others to save themselves. At the same time, they claimed, they were "saving" the person who was sacrificed.



The atrocities reached the ears of leaders in the east. President Buchanan sent troops to Utah to return order. The Mormons heard about it in advance and prepared for a long siege. They stockpiled grain. They found places to hide. They got ready to leave at a moment’s notice. They burned down Fort Bridger and Fort Supply so they could not provide shelter to U.S. troops. Brigham Young declared that army troops would not be allowed to enter the Salt Lake Valley for any reason. He declared that all citizens must be ready to bare arms against them.

Before the troops could reach Utah, the Fancher emigrant train had reached Salt Lake City from Arkansas. They had received a hostile reception there so left as soon as possible. In their way south, they were unable to buy or trade with any of the settlers. They traveled as fast as they could to get out of Utah. They stopped at Mountain Meadows, in the southwest corner of the territory, to rest their animals. The meadows were a final resting and refueling stop before crossing the ninety miles of desert west of them. There were two springs in the valley and lush grass. Around the valley were steep hillsides.


This 1870s T.B.H. Stenhouse sketch depicts the horrors at Mountain Meadows


On the eastern edge of the valley lived Jacob Hamlin, a Mormon Indian agent for the Paiutes, and some other assistants. On the morning of September 7, 1857, seven emigrants fell dead from gunfire. Sixteen others were wounded. The emigrants were stunned, but the survivors raced to their wagons to arm themselves and get the women and children under cover. The Indians did not expect resistance and hesitated. But spurned on by their Mormon instigators John D. Lee, sub-agent, and Nephi Johnson, interpreter, they kept fighting. The Indians also ran off some of the cattle and shot the rest. Overall, there were 54 white men and 200 Indians in the attacking force.

The settlers made a fortress out of their wagons and piled up earth. They sent out messengers for help. Two men reached Cedar City, but when they asked for help, one of them was killed on the spot. The other was wounded, but got away. Three men finally got out and headed toward California for help.


John D. Lee


The Mormons were dismayed that the settlers weren’t so easy to dislodge. They held a council to decide what to do. They decided they must somehow be lured out of their stronghold and then killed. Lee and William Bateman approached the camp waving a white flag. They claimed that the Indians had agreed to leave them alone if they surrendered to the Mormons. They would have to make a show of it so the Indians would believe they were surrendering. They had to put their guns in the wagons and the men had to walk unarmed. The pioneers agreed, believing it was their only option.

They started to march out of the valley, practically in single file. When they reached a certain spot, Major John Higbee gave a signal. All of a sudden the Indians erupted out of their hiding places and attacked the women. The Mormon militiamen bringing up the rear killed the men on foot that were closest to them. All of the men were killed in the first two or three volleys. The women were left to the Indians. All of them were scalped, stripped of their clothes, and killed.


Site of the Mountain Meadow Massacre


Shortly afterward, Ira Hatch led some Indians after the three men who were heading to California. They caught up with them in the Santa Clara Mountains and killed them. In all, about 120 men, women, and children were killed including the five who had left the stronghold. Seventeen children survived and were taken to Hamlin’s agency and divided up among Mormon families.

The Mormons took all the money that the settlers had on them. They gave much of the property to the Indians. The rest was taken and sold and donated to the Church. They took all the jewelry off the bodies, not caring if they mutilated fingers or ears in its removal.

On October 2, eleven Mormon men fleeing Utah through the southern boundary stopped at the site of the massacre. They saw the nude, mutilated bodies still laying there, some partly eaten by wild animals. They told about what they saw when they reached Los Angeles. From there the news spread all over the country. A hue and cry went up to punish the Indians and Mormons responsible.



A Dr. Forney, Superintendent of Utah, investigated the matter. He found the missing children living with white families near Hamlin’s agency. Some of them were old enough to explain exactly what happened. He was amazed that the families who had taken in the children demanded money to repay them for what they had paid the Indians to free the children. He learned that the Indians that died had done so after eating an animal infected from eating a noxious weed, not from being deliberately poisoned by the emigrants. He also learned that this particular tribe had not even been involved in the fight. This contradicted the story that had been given by the Mormons for the Indian uprising.

It wasn’t until the spring of 1859, that an army company went to the meadows and buried the remains. On June 29, fifteen of the seventeen children were sent east in a wagon train escorted by soldiers, John C. Miller and Milium Tackett were kept was witnesses. They testified in Washington D.C., then went home to Arkansas. No one was punished until 1876, when Lee and three others finally went on trial. In the first trial, Lee was acquitted, being as there were nine Mormon men on the jury. The U.S. government proclaimed the jury selection as invalid and declared a second trial. By then, the Mormon church decided that they should sacrifice Lee and the others to improve their own standing. The witnesses in the second trial all of a sudden remembered everything that happened. Lee was found guilty of murder. On March 23, 1877, he was executed at the scene of the massacre.


Below is a short history of the Mountain Meadows Massacre, as it appears on the memorial in Harrison, Arkansas.

The Mountain Meadows Massacre

In memory of 140 men, women and children, Northwest Arkansas emigrants to California in 1857 under leadership of Alexander Fancher (Piney Alex) left from Caravan Spring 4 miles south of here around May 1st - camped at Mountain Meadows, Utah in early September - attacked by Indians directed by Mormons - fought for several days until ammunition exhausted - approached by Mormons under flag of truce - promised protection - surrendered - all were then killed except 17 small children - found later in Mormon homes - rescued by Army in 1859 - taken to Arkansas - cared for by relatives - John D. Lee, Mormon bishop, tried - found guilty - executed in 1877 - confessed guilt and Mormon complicity - consult Russells Behind These Ozark Hills (1947) Goodspeeds History of Arkansas (1889) p. 346 - 350 in regional library Harrison.

Vengeance is mine, I will repay, saith the Lord.
Romans 12:19

Small children not killed
Milum & William - children of Pleasant Tackett
Angeline & George Ann - children of L. D. Dunlap
Martha Elizabeth - Sarah F. - W. T. - children of G. W. Baker
Rebecca J. - Sarah E. - Louisa - children of Jesse Dunlap
John Calvin - Mary - Joseph - children of Josiah Miller
Kit Carson & Tryphina - children of Alexander Fancher
F. M. Jones - child of J. M. Jones
Sophronia - child of Peter Huff



Below is the inscription of the back side of the monument at Harrison, Arkansas. It provides an incomplete list of the victims of the massacre.

Those Killed
From Carroll Co. Arkansas
Alexander Fancher - Wife Eliza Ingram -
Their children: Hampton - William - Mary -
Thomas - Martha - Sarah G. - Margaret A.
George W. Baker - Wife - Child
John I. Baker - Abel Baker
Milum Rush - Allen Deshazo
David W. Beller - Jrs Mathew Fancher
Robert T. Fancher - Melissa Ann Beller

From Marion Co. Arkansas
Chas R. Mitchell - Wife - Child
Joel D. Mitchell - Lawson Mitchell
Wm. Pruett - John Pruett
Jesse Dunlap - Wife - 6 Children
Rachel Dunlap - Ruth Dunlap
L. D. Dunlap - 5 Children
Wm. Wood - Solomon Wood
Richard Wilson

From Johnson Co. Arkansas
J. Milum Jones - Wife - Child
Pleasant Tackett - Wife - 2 Children
Cintha Tackett - 3 Children
Ambrose Tackett - Miriam Tackett
William Cambron - Wife - 5 Children
Josiah Miller - Wife - 5 Children
Peter Huff - Wife - Their children:
Angeline - Annie - Ephriam W.

Wm. Eaton - Indiana - Wm. A. Aden - Tenn.

Residence Unknown
John Melvin Sorel - Mary Sorel
Francis Horn - Joseph Miller - Wife
Other Names in Caravan
Mortons - Haydons - Hudsons -
Hamiltons - Smiths - Laffoons

OTHERS UNKNOWN




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To: HiJinx
Thanks for the link Hijinx. I made sure I had hardcopies of all my records and have copies in a safe deposit box and my DD214 registered with the County.
141 posted on 09/11/2003 9:58:04 PM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Technical Support for 72VirginsDating.mil (Thanks jriemer))
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
To acknowledge complicity on the part of church leaders runs the risk of calling into question Brigham Young's divinity and the Mormon belief that they are God's chosen people. "If good Mormons committed the massacre," wrote a Mormon writer, Levi Peterson, "if prayerful leaders ordered it, if apostles and a prophet knew about it and later sacrificed John D. Lee, then the sainthood of even the modern church seems tainted."

Oh, dear, calling into question Brigham Young's divinity.

God's chosen people should be able to shoot anybody in the head.

What is additionally pathetic is the agency of Stuart Udall to "clear the name" of John D. Lee.

The son of this jackass, Tom Udall, is the congressman for this the Third District of New Mexico, famous for the Chimayo heroin overdose death rate making number one on the charts.

We note with some irony the presence of the names Hatch and Hinckley in the account.

Homicidal jihadists to the contrary notwithstanding, Utah does offer a feature of interest:


142 posted on 09/12/2003 12:28:51 AM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
LOL, Phil, LOL!!

I enjoy waking up to your posts, seriousness with that always humorous twist.

Thank you.
143 posted on 09/12/2003 3:38:52 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our troops)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
I guess it could be worse, someone else could be controlling the vertical and the horizontal at the outer limits.

Had to sign off last night before seeing the rest of the thread.
Ugh.
144 posted on 09/12/2003 5:12:20 AM PDT by Darksheare (One bad night of waking up somewhere new to me, and I'm forever labeled.)
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To: Valin
I'm afeared it is so.
I think it was one of those, "You THOUGHT? Who said you can think!?" deals.
I'm not sure anymore, I never found out why she said it in the first place.

145 posted on 09/12/2003 5:15:14 AM PDT by Darksheare (One bad night of waking up somewhere new to me, and I'm forever labeled.)
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To: Valin
Getting back to that, Doug Miller.
Friend of my wife's family (and other friends of theirs).
Correction on my statement, he lived in Port Jervis.
But I know of him from Matamoras and Milford PA, but never met him myself.
(I stay away from the in-laws and their friends by habit.)

146 posted on 09/12/2003 5:17:21 AM PDT by Darksheare (One bad night of waking up somewhere new to me, and I'm forever labeled.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Good Morning PhilDragoo.

A religious fanatic is a relgious fanatic is a religious fanantic. I never understood the "convert or die" mentality of any religion.
147 posted on 09/12/2003 7:54:26 AM PDT by SAMWolf (US Marines - Technical Support for 72VirginsDating.mil (Thanks jriemer))
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To: Samwise

Remember this thread?

Still want to vote in a president with this kooky religion?


148 posted on 12/14/2007 8:20:06 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: PhilDragoo

resurrecting old threads bump


149 posted on 12/14/2007 8:21:06 AM PST by RaceBannon (Innocent until proven guilty; The Pendleton 8: We are not going down without a fight)
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To: RaceBannon
Still want to vote in a president with this kooky religion?

Fred Thompson is mormom?

150 posted on 12/14/2007 6:15:32 PM PST by Samwise (Fred doesn't suffer fools or the media. Did I repeat myself?)
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To: SAMWolf

ping


151 posted on 02/04/2011 11:21:16 AM PST by dalebert
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