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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Battle for Mortain (Aug. 7-12, 1944) - Aug 7th, 2003
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Posted on 08/07/2003 12:00:16 AM PDT by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
.

FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


God Bless America
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The Battle for Mortain


Mortain - Santa Fe to the Rescue


The story of Mortain is a tribute to the courage and fighting qualities of the American Soldier.


Crests of 35th Division Infantry Regiments


By 5 August, the Vire Campaign was over, and the 35th prepared to go onward in extension of the Allied plans. With the Cotentin Peninsula firmly in his grasp, the Supreme Commander intended to take the Croton Peninsula to the south and reduce it, before swinging a wide arm about the German armies in the west. The Third Army, under the command of Lieutenant General George S. Patton, Jr., was preparing to make this wide sweep. In addition to his famed armored columns, General Patton required strong, aggressive infantry to mop up and consolidate the positions the tanks overran. Accordingly, the 35th was transferred back to Third Army, and assigned to the XX Corps, which also contained the veteran 5th United States Division and the 2nd french Armored Division.

The division began boarding trucks on 5 August to move to an assembly area. Ultimately it was expected to arrive in the vicinity of Rennes which was about midway on the base of the Croton Peninsula.

Proceeding to Pontfaroy, the motor convoy turned southwest, swung around Villedieu, continued southwest to Ponts, within sight of Avranches on the Mont St. Michel Bay. Turning east at Ponts to Brecey, the convoy reached the town of St. Hilaire du Harcouet on the night of 5 - 6 August.



The breakthrough of the American forces at St. Lo had carried Armor penetration deep into france. The 30th Infantry Division driving down from the north had captured Mortain, and the high ground southeast of the city. Avranches, the focal point of communications between the Allied source of supplies at Cherbourg and the beachheads, was seated at the juncture of the bases of the Cotentin and the Brittany peninsulas. The German Commander in the West, General Von Rundstedt, realized that unless he could attack, divide, and smash the Allied forces with one complete and decisive blow, the battle of Normandy would be lost. Mustering all available resources he counter-attacked on the morning of 7 August with strong forces of tank and infantry, the brunt of the blow striking along the Mortain - Avranches axis in the Mortain area. Sweeping aside all opposition the Germans recaptured Mortain, driving the defenders back, isolating the 2nd Battalion, 120th Infantry, 30th Infantry Division, on a hill just east of the city.


The encounter of two different worlds


In attempting to enlarge this penetration, the enemy next turned his attention to the west and to the recapture of St. Hilaire du Harcouet. Anticipating the enemy threat, the 35th was ordered to assemble in the vicinity of St. Hilaire. For operational control in meeting the impending threat, the division was attached to VII Corps, 1st U. S. Army, for commitment in the Mortain area. Preparatory to the enemy attack on St. Hilaire on the night of 5 - 6 August, the town and the roads leading into it were subjected to a severe night bombing by a large fleet of German planes. During this raid, convoys of the `134th and 137th Infantry Regiments, assembling in their assigned areas, were bombed.

Due to the fluid situation and the enemy's ability to press the attack, Major General Baade ordered Combat Teams 134 and 137 to be prepared to move to the east without delay.



The first problem confronting the Santa Fe was to establish a definite line. This was decided on as the Mortain - Barenton - St. Cyr du Baileu Highway. Since Combat Teams 134 and 137 were on a thirty-minute alert notice, they were able to move quickly. At 2030 on 7 August they moved eastward to secure the highway. This was accomplished in part the first day. But it developed that not only were the Germans strongly entrenched on the high ground north and east of Barenton, firmly dug-in within Mortain and the Mortain Forest, but they were also attempting to drive south and west with a force of approximately 700 men accompanied by tanks through the Mortain Forest in order to cut the St. Hilaire - Louvigne du Desert Highway.

The line having been established except on the Santa Fe's left flank, the next thing to do was to split the enemy into pockets and reduce them. This would have the double effect of driving the enemy from the territory and relieving the besieged battalion of the 30th Division.

The 137th Infantry drove the enemy from Barenton in some sharp fighting and moved into the area between there and le Teilleul.


American field communication post during the Mortain counter-attack


The regiment's 1st and 2nd Battalions then established posts at St. Georges de Rouelle and St. Mar - de Egrende respectively, with a motorized patrol covering the roads from le Teilleul to St. Cyr thence to the regimental boundary between Mortain and Barenton. These patrols were continued throughout the following day. The 3rd Battalion was attached to the 134th Infantry.

On 11 August, elements of the 4th Infantry Division took over part of the 137th's zone and the 2nd Battalion reverted to Division reserve. The 1st Battalion advanced northeast from Barenton to Bousentier, then westward toward the Mortain Forest in an encircling movement. This advance was continued on the 12th, and early in the morning the ridge of the high ground north of le Gil Bouillion was gained.

Pushed from the north slope of the high ground and faced with possible encirclement, the enemy made a general withdrawal from that sector. Long columns of enemy vehicles were reported leaving Ger and St. Barthelemy. American P-47's pounced upon the fleeing Germans and bombed and strafed them continuously during the afternoon.


M8 American vehicle captured by the Germans during the Mortain counter-attack


Enemy artillery was used to cover this withdrawal. The 137th was due to be relieved by elements of the 2nd Armored Division at 2200 in the vicinity of Rancoudray. However, the 1st Battalion of the 137th and the 3rd Battalion of the 134th, which had been attached, were still engaged in heavy fighting at that hour, and relief was not effected until the morning of 13 August.

Meanwhile the 320th was operating in the immediate area of Mortain. The Combat Team formation ceased at 1800 on 9 August and they continued to operate as a regiment, with attached elements, attacking to the east and pushing back the enemy.

Information was then received that told of the perilous condition of the "Lost Battalion" of the 30th Division. Regardless of the Battalion Commander's courageous retort that the Germans could "Go to Hell with their demand for surrender," the situation was desperate. They had no medical supplies to care for the wounded; their food stocks were depleted; their water was low; their ammunition was fast becoming exhausted. Unless immediate relief reached them, their brave resistance would have to stop. Efforts to drop supplies to them from the air failed. Division artillery tried firing shells filled with medical supplies to them, but the quantities were too small to fill the need.


German column destroyed by Allied fighter-bombers


The attack to the east by the division continued on 10 August against stiff resistance. The 1st Battalion, 320th Infantry with the 737th Tank Battalion attached, drew the assignment to capture Hill 317 and to rescue the "Lost Battalion." This attack began at 1500. The tanks were in column and one company of infantry rode on them. Artillery fired a ten-minute preparation and exactly at the time of the attack, planes appeared and bombed the enemy to screen the tank movement. Smoke fired by the artillery marked the targets. In one hour the tanks had advanced a mile under heavy artillery and anti-tank fire. Before the day was over they had reached the foot of the hill. This drive, coupled with the fierce and determined advance of the 134th, cut in two the pocket of resistance west of the highway.

The attack continued throughout 11 August as the 1st Battalion 320th edged up Hill 137. Riding on tanks of the 737th Tank Battalion, the doughboys pushed their way through a stubbornly resisting enemy. Within 500 yards of the "Lost Battalion," the last of the tanks, not crippled by the heavy German fire, halted to cover the advance of the dismounted doughs. The battalion went the rest of the way on foot driving over enemy positions in hand to hand fighting to rescue the courageous battalion of the 30th. Lieutenant Homer W. Kurtz, Troy, Illinois, and four men from the Intelligence Section of the 3rd Battalion were the first to reach the "Lost Battalion."



The relief was a dramatic one, for in their weakened condition it was doubtful if the survivors could have held out much longer. Anticipating this, the 35th Quartermaster Company was waiting to dash up the hill with supplies. A truck filled with supplies and water convoyed by three tanks (two in front and one behind) was the first to run the enemy gauntlet. Corporal Verlin D. Young of Lexington, Nebraska, and T/5 Hans Gehlsen of Gross, Nebraska, were selected.

Driving at top speed over the rough terrain of fields in order to avoid enemy roadblocks, dodging through the screen of heavy artillery fire that threatened them all the way, the convoy reached the fast-failing troops with the supplies. Then, instead of remaining in the comparative safety of the battalion area, the convoy dashed back to the 35th Division lines carrying 20 men who were seriously wounded.

Even more significant than the rescue of the battalion was the fact that the German attempt to break the lifeline was smashed. Hitler's last chance to balk the invasion was wrecked and the way was open for the complete rout of the German armies in france.



The 1st Battalion, 320th Infantry and the 737th Tank Battalion were honored with Distinguished Unit Citations for this daring venture. Once again the Santa Fe had beaten back the best that the veteran German Army could muster.

The division was prouder than ever after V-E day when members of the German General Staff stated that the War was lost when their counter-attack at Mortain - Avranches failed.

Thanks to Freeper PhilDragoo for the idea for this thread



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To: Pippin
Hi Pippin. How you been?
21 posted on 08/07/2003 7:23:39 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: E.G.C.
Morning E.G.C.
22 posted on 08/07/2003 7:24:33 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: snippy_about_it
You're welcome Snippy.
23 posted on 08/07/2003 7:25:51 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: aomagrat
she was hit by a "Kamikaze", which cost the lives of five of her crewmen and left an unexploded bomb in her after hull.

She was lucky, a lot of DD's and DE's didn't survive Kamikaze hits.

24 posted on 08/07/2003 7:29:02 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: bentfeather
Good Morning Feather.
25 posted on 08/07/2003 7:30:02 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: Darksheare
I can dream can't I? :)
26 posted on 08/07/2003 7:46:40 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf
Well my goodness SAM, what a welcome surprise. Good morning. Thank you for the flowers, they are lovely.
27 posted on 08/07/2003 7:53:24 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: snippy_about_it
Morning Glory Kids~

Hats off to PhilDragoo and Godly thanks to the courage and valor of these soldiers.

Where are you France?


28 posted on 08/07/2003 7:56:06 AM PDT by w_over_w (Have you ever seen a fish on a wall with its mouth shut?)
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To: SAMWolf
On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on August 07:
317 Constantius II Roman emperor (337-61)
1598 Georg Stiernhielm "father of Swedish poetry" (Hercules)
1742 Nathanael Greene American Revolutionary War General
1779 Carl Ritter cofounder of modern science of geography
1783 John Heathcoat inventor (lace-making machinery)
1876 Mata Hari dancer/courtesan/spy (WW I)
1885 Billie Burke Washington DC, actress (Glinda-The Wizard of Oz)
1886 Louis Hazeltine inventor (neutrodyne circuit, making radio possible)
1896 Ernesto Lecuona Havana Cuba, composer (Malague¤a)
1903 Louis Leakey anthropologist (1964 Richard Hooper Medal)
1904 Ralph J Bunche a founder & UN diplomat (Nobel 1950)
1921 Karel Husa Prague Czechoslovakia, composer (Trojan Women)
1926 Stan Freberg LA Calif, satirist/ad executive
1927 Edwin W Edwards (Gov-La)
1928 Amazing "James" Randi Toronto Ontario, skeptic magician
1929 Don Larsen pitcher (NY Yankees), on what must have been a perfect day
1929 Ruth Carter-Stapleton Plains Ga, 1st sister/evangelist
1932 Ann Harding US, actress (East is West, Janie)
1938 Helen Caldicott Melbourne Australia, physician/anti-war activist
1940 Marlyn Mason San Fernando Cal, actress (Making It, Peyton Place)
1942 Anjanette Comer Dawson Tx, actress (Baby, Lepke)
1942 B.J. Thomas singer (Raindrops, Growing Pains Theme)
1942 Garrison Keillor PBS radio personality (Prairie Home Companion)
1943 Lana Cantrell Sydney, Australia, singer (Those Were the Days)
1944 John Glover Kingston NY, actor (52 Pick-Up, Something Special)
1945 Alan Page defensive tackle (Minn Vikings)
1950 David James Wottle 800m runner (Olympic-gold-1972)
1950 Rodney Crowell singer/guitarist (for Emmylou Harris)
1951 Gary Hall swimmer (Olympic-bronze-1976)
1956 Kent V Rominger Del Norte Colo, US Navy Lt Commander/astronaut
1957 Aleksandr Ditiatin USSR, gymnast (Olympic-gold-1980)
1958 Alberto Salazar marathoner (NYC Marathon Winner)
1958 Bruce Dickinson heavy metal rocker (Iron Maiden-Run to Hills)
1958 Larisa Karlova USSR, team handball player (Olympic-gold-1976, 80)
1960 Jacquie O'Sullivan rocker (Bananarama-Venus)
1961 Yelena Davydova USSR, gymnast (Olympic-gold-1980)
1963 Marcus Lewis Pontiac Mich, singer (Sing me a Song)
1967 Charlotte Lewis Kensington London, actress (Golden Child, Pirates)
1969 David Hollander LA Calif, actor (Lewis & Clark, What's Happenings?)
197- Josh A Andrew Koenig actor (Boner-Growing Pains)





Deaths which occurred on August 07:
1106 Henry IV, Holy Roman Emperor (1056/84-1105), dies at 54
1867 Ira Aldridge actor dies at 63 in Lodes Poland
1931 Leon Bismarck "Bix" Beiderbecke, jazz cornetist (In Mist), dies at 29
1957 Oliver Hardy comedian of Laurel & Hardy, dies at 65
1969 Russ Morgan orch leader (Welcome Aboard), dies at 65
1972 Joi Lansing actress (Bob Cummings Show), dies at 44 of cancer
1976 Murvyn Vye actor (Bob Cummings Show), dies at 63
1991 Shotzie Cincinnati Red dog mascot, dies at 9
2000 Sir Alec Guinness (Obi-Wan Kenobi) died at a southern England hospital at age 86





Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1965 GRAY HAROLD EDWIN JR. NEW YORK NY.
1966 BRAZELTON MICHAEL L. INGLEWOOD CA.
[03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1966 FRYER CHARLES WIGGER OKLAHOMA CITY OK.
1966 GIDEON WILLARD S. SILVER SPRINGS MD.
[03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE IN 98]
1966 MORAN RICHARD ALLAN FORT SMITH AR.
1966 PYLE THOMAS S. NEW CASTLE DE.
[03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1966 SANDVICK ROBERT J. GLASGOW MT.
[03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE IN 98]
1966 WENDELL JOHN H. HOUSTON TX.
[03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE IN 98]
1967 CHAMBERS CARL D. SANTA MONICA CA.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1967 WILSON GLENN H. ST. ALBANS WV.
[03/14/73 RELEASED BY DRV, DECEASED]
1971 BERG BRUCE A. OLYMPIA WA.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.





On this day...
0626 Battle at Constantinople: Slavic/Persians/Avarenvloot defeated
768 Stephen III begins his reign as Catholic Pope
1498 Columbus arrives in Caribbean
1620 Kepler's mother arrested for witchcraft
1760 Ft Loudon Tennessee surrenders to Cherokee Indians
1782 George Washington creates Order of the Purple Heart
1789 US War Department established
1819 Battle of Boyac ; Bol¡var defeats Spanish in Colombia
1820 1st potatoes planted in Hawaii
1882 Hatfields of south WV & McCoys of east Ky feud, 100 wounded or die
1888 Theophilus Van Kannel of Phila patents revolving door
1893 53rd Congress (1893-95) convenes
1906 In North Carolina, a mob defies a court order and lynches three African Americans which becomes known as "The Lyerly Murders.
1909 US issues 1st Lincoln penny
1912 Progressive (Bull Moose) Party nominates Theodore Roosevelt for pres
1927 Peace Bridge between US & Canada dedicated
1929 Ruth ties record by hitting grand slams in consecutive games
1934 US Court of Appeals upheld lower court ruling striking down govt's attempt to ban controversial James Joyce novel "Ulysses"
1935 60% of voters agrees to Nazism (NSDAP) in Danzig (Gdansk)
1938 Nazi's close theology department of Innsbruck university
1938 2 die in a NYC subway accident
1940 Largest amount paid for a stamp ($45,000 for 1 1856 British Guiana)
1941 551 Jews are shot in Kishnev ghetto in Romania
1942 1st American offensive in Pacific in WW2, Guadalcanal, Solomon Is
1946 1st coin bearing portrait of Negro authorized
1947 Balsa raft Kon Tiki crashes into a Polynesian archipelago reef
1951 Douglas D-558-II Skyrocket reaches 1,992 kph
1953 Eastern Airlines enters the jet age, uses Electra prop-jet
1954 Charles Mahoney becomes 1st US black to serve as a full UN delegate
1959 Explorer 6 transmits 1st TV photo of Earth from space
1960 Ivory Coast (C“te d'Ivoire) gains independence from France
1960 Students stage kneel-in demonstrations in Atlanta churches
1961 Cosmonaut Gherman Titov circles Earth for a full day in Vostok 2
1963 Jac Kennedy becomes 1st, 1st lady to give birth since Mrs Cleveland
1964 US Congress approves Gulf of Tonkin resolution
1966 Race riot in Lansing Michigan
1966 The United States loses seven planes over North Vietnam, the most in the war up to this point.
1970 1st computer chess tournament
1970 4, including presiding judge, killed in courthouse shootout in San Rafael, Calif (Police charge Angela Davis provided weapons)
1971 Apollo 15 returns to Earth
1972 Hall of Fame inducts Berra, Sandy Koufax, Lefty Gomez & Early Wynn
1974 Philippe Petit walks tightrope strung between the twin towers of the World Trade Center
1976 US Viking 2 goes into Martian orbit after 11-month flight from Earth
1976 Scientists in Pasadena, Calif, announce Viking I found strongest indications to date of possible life on Mars
1978 Thousands of mourners file past the body of Pope Paul VI
1983 1st World Track & Field Championships
1983 Bobby Murcer day at Yankee Stadium
1983 Grete Waitz of Norway, wins 1st all-women Marathon (Helsinki Fin)
1983 Some 675,000 employees strike AT&T
1984 Japan beats US for olympic gold medal in baseball
1984 Jim Deshales becomes 1,000th playing Yankee
1985 Barbra Streisand records "The Broadway Album"
1985 Baseball players end a 2 day strike
1986 Daniel Buettner, Bret Anderson, Martin Engel & Anne Knabe begin cycling journey of 15,266 miles from Prudhoe Bay Alaska to Argentina
1987 5 Central American presidents sign peace accord in Guatemala
1987 Lynne Cox swims 4.3 km from US to USSR in 39ø F (4ø C) Bering Sea
1988 Writers guild end their 6 months strike
1990 Desert Shield begin-US deploys troops to Saudi Arabia
1990 Saudi Arabia allows US troops on their soil to stop an Iraqi invasion
1990 NY Yankee Kevin Mass sets record with 12th HR in 1st 92 at bats & becomes 21st to hit a ball into 3rd deck of Seattle's Kingdome
1991 Court rules Manuel Noriega, may access some secret US documents
1991 Manhattan Cable final day of amnesty to return illegal cable boxes
1991 US sets 400m relay record at 37.67 seconds
2000 Vice President and Democratic presidential candidate Al Gore selected Connecticut Sen. Joseph Lieberman as his running mate.
2001 The Vatican denounced what it called a "slanderous campaign" against the Roman Catholic Church over the Holocaust-era pope, Pius XII.




Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"
Tightrope Walking Day
National Sandwich Month
Columbia : Battle of Boyac (1819)
Ivory Coast/C“te d'Ivoire : Independence Day (1760)
Trinidad & Tobago : Discovery Day (1498)
Arizona, Michigan : American Family Day - - - - - ( Sunday )
Italy : Joust of the Quintana (1st Sunday) - - - - - ( Sunday )
Bahamas, Barbados, Turks & Caicos Island : Emancipation Day (1838) - - - - - ( Monday )
British Commonwealth : Bank Holiday - - - - - ( Monday )
Canada : Civic Holiday (1st Monday) - - - - - ( Monday )
Colorado : Colorado Day (1876) - - - - - ( Monday )
Jamaica : Independence Day (1962) - - - - - ( Monday )
St Christopher-Nevis-Anguilla : August Monday - - - - - ( Monday )
US : National Smile Week begins - - - - - ( Monday )
Grasmere England : Rush-Bearing Day - - - - - ( Saturday )





Religious Observances
Ang, Episcopal : Feast of Holy Name of Jesus
RC : Memorial of Sixtus II, pope, & his companions, martyrs (opt)
RC, Ang : Memorial of St Cajetan, confessor (opt)
Ang : Commemoration of John Mason Neale, priest





Religious History
0117 Death of Marcus Trajan, 65, Roman emperor from A.D. 98-117. His attitude toward Christianity gradually changed from toleration to persecution. It was during Trajan's rule that Apostolic Father Ignatius of Antioch was martyred.
1409 The Council of Pisa closed. Convened to end the Great Schism (1378-1417) caused by two rival popes, the Council in fact elected a third pope, Alexander V (afterwards regarded as an antipope).
1560 Ratification of the Scots Confession by the Scottish Parliament marked the triumph of the Reformation in Scotland, under the leadership of John Knox. (In 1647, the Scots Confession was superseded by the Westminster Confession.)
1852 Birth of Franklin L. Sheppard, Presbyterian organist and hymnbook editor. It was Sheppard who composed the hymn tune TERRA PATRIS, to which we sing "This is My Father's World."
1878 Missouri Synod Lutheran Church founder C. F. W. Walther wrote in a letter: 'Do not deny the Word of God when it speaks to you.'

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.




Thought for the day :
"Character is like a tree and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing."




You might be from Florida if...
Your idea of a mountain is 100 feet above sea level.




Murphys Law of the day...(Bus Law)
If you're running late the bus will be too




Cliff Clavin says, it's a little known fact that...
1903 Alexander Winton set the 1st land speed record in car racing. Set at Daytona Beach, his speed was 68.18 mph.
29 posted on 08/07/2003 8:03:38 AM PDT by Valin (America is a vast conspiracy to make you happy.)
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To: w_over_w
This picture says so much, it caught my eye too when I read the thread this morning and you comment is excellent. It seems france forgot so quickly of our sacrifices to free them.
30 posted on 08/07/2003 8:03:58 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: radu; snippy_about_it; LaDivaLoca; TEXOKIE; cherry_bomb88; Bethbg79; Do the Dew; Pippin; ...
Our Military Today
Still Under Fire


U.S. Army soldiers take cover after an American military vehicle was destroyed allegedly by a rocket attack in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


A U.S.Army soldier points his weapon towards a building after an American military vehicle was destroyed, allegedly by a rocket attack, in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


A U.S .Army soldier takes cover after an American military vehicle was destroyed, allegedly by a rocket attack, in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


People come out with their hands up from a building that came under American military forces after an American military vehicle was destroyed, allegedly by an rocket attack, in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003.(AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


U.S. Army soldiers run towards a forward position after an American military vehicle was destroyed, allegedly by a rocket attack, in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


A U.S. Army Bradley fighting vehicle fires rounds into a building after an American military vehicle was destroyed, allegedly by a rocket attack, in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


People come out with their hands up from a building that came under American military forces after after an American military vehicle was destroyed, allegedly by rocket-propelled grenades, in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003.(AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


U.S.Army soldiers take cover after an American military vehicle was destroyed allegedly by rocket-propelled grenades in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday July 7, 2003.(AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


A U.S. Army soldier helps a woman out of a building that came under American fire after an American military vehicle was destroyed allegedly by rocket-propelled grenades in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003. (AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


U.S. Army soldiers take cover after an American military vehicle was destroyed, allegedly by a rocket attack, in downtown Baghdad, Iraq on Thursday Aug. 7, 2003.(AP Photo/Dario Lopez-Mills)


31 posted on 08/07/2003 8:06:43 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: SAMWolf
Oooops! See #28 . . . two sips of Joe and I forget to ping da man!
32 posted on 08/07/2003 8:07:39 AM PDT by w_over_w (Have you ever seen a fish on a wall with its mouth shut?)
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To: w_over_w
two sips of Joe and I forget to ping da man!

Not to worry, he wouldn't miss it, he reads every post, but he still likes pings. :)

33 posted on 08/07/2003 8:15:23 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: SAMWolf
Great pictures SAM, that women sure looks relieved to be in the arms of one of our solidiers. I would be too!
34 posted on 08/07/2003 8:16:35 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Pray for our Troops)
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To: *all

Air Power
Hawker Typhoon

The Typhoons developmental life was so trouble that the entire project risked cancellations. The core of the problem were the untried powerplants that suffered from teething problems for wuite some time. Two prototypes were developed, the R-type Tornado equiped with the Vulture power plant and the N-type Typhoon equipped with the Napier Sabre. The Tornado prototype was eventually cancelled when the Vulture powerplant was abandoned. Production was delayed by the pressing need for Hurricanes and eventually the Typhoon's production was contracted to Gloster once development was complete.

The Typhoon began to enter service with Nos 56 and 609 squadrons at Duxford in September of 1941. Unfortunately the type still suffered problems, the Sabre powerplant proved to be unreliable and the rear fuselage had an annoying habit of coming apart. Once again the Typhoon risked cancellation but held on long enough for the problems to be resolved and a niche to be found. In late 1941 the Typhoon gained favour by demonstrating it's ability to catch Luftwaffe Fighter-Bombers that were making hit and run nuissance raids.

In 1943 the Typhoon's reputation grew as it descended on France and the Low countries and shot-up anything that moved. The type, now thoroughly developed and reliable became the premier ground attack aircraft of the RAF and proved particulayly suitable for operations from forward strips. Of the 3,330 Typhoons built, most (3,000 odd) had a bubble type canopy instead of the heavy framed canopy of the earlier type. The car style door was also deleted on these latter types. Further development of this aircraft led to the design of the Tempest

Specifications:
Origin: Hawker Aircraft Ltd
Manufacturer: Gloster Aircraft Company
Type: Originally heavy interceptor, later fighter bomber/ground-attack aircraft
Accommodation: Single pilot in enclosed cockpit
History: First flight (prototype) January 1938
First flight: 24th February 1940
First production delivery: 27th May 1941
Final production delivery: November 1945
Operational Equipment: Standard communications and navigational equipment, reflector gunsight, later sights for rockets and bomb-aiming.
Powerplant: Typhoon Mk IA/IB Napier Sabre IIA 2,180hp
Weights: Empty - 8,800lbs 4000kg / Loaded: 13,250lbs 6023kg

Dimensions:
Wingspan: 41ft 7in 12.67m
Length: 31ft 11in 9.73m
Height: 15ft 3 ½in 4.66m

Performance :
Maximum speed: 412mph 664kph
Initial climb: 3000 ft 914m/min
Service ceiling: 35,200ft 10,730m
Range: (with bombs) 510 miles 821km
Range: (drop tanks) 980 miles 1577km

Armaments:
Typhoon Mk IA: 12x 0.303-inch Browning machine guns
Typhoon Mk IB:
4x 20mm Hispano cannon,
+8x 60lb (27kg) rocket projectile,
Or 2x 500lb (227kg) bombs,
Later, 2x 1000lb bombs






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35 posted on 08/07/2003 8:19:02 AM PDT by Johnny Gage (Optimistic Apathy: Everything will be OK, if not, who cares.)
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To: Valin
1942 1st American offensive in Pacific in WW2, Guadalcanal, Solomon Is

Guadalcanal –- Operation Shoestring

During the first six months of the war in the Pacific, the Navy had blunted Japanese expansion into Australia and New Zealand at the Battle of the Coral Sea and had cut the mighty Japanese carrier navy down to size at Midway. Finally, U.S. forces were taking the first tenuous step in their bloody, island-hopping march toward Tokyo.

The Marines’ primary objective was a rudimentary landing strip constructed by the Japanese on Guadalcanal in the weeks preceding the invasion. Although poorly supplied and undermanned, the Leathernecks captured the airstrip in one day, dubbed it Henderson Field in memory of a Marine Corps pilot killed at Midway, then dug in. For the next four disease-ridden months they defended it against repeated naval, air and land assaults by a determined enemy.

The regional balance of air and naval forces strongly favored the Japanese. As a consequence, tons of supplies including food and other provisions that were to have come ashore did not. Intelligence about the island was lacking. Reinforcements were not immediately available. Hence, the unofficial name "Operation Shoestring."

Living and working conditions on Guadalcanal were miserable as well as dangerous. Mosquitoes, leeches, chiggers and flesh eating ants gnawed at the men in the field, while rats spread typhus. Malaria, dysentery and various other jungle diseases were so rampant that anyone with a temperature of 103 degrees or less was considered fit for duty. In his book Victory at Guadalcanal, author Robert Edward Lee records one Marine’s cynical observation: "If the world needed an enema, this would be the right place to put in the hose!"

Air support operations began 13 days after the invasion with the arrival of a Marine fighter squadron and a squadron of Navy dive-bombers. They were soon augmented by a detachment of Army Air Force fighter-bombers from New Caledonia. As Cactus was the Allied code name for Guadalcanal, this unconventional collection of planes and fliers came to be known as "The Cactus Air Force."

Among the AAF pilots who joined the Cactus Air Force early on was Captain John A. Thompson, a name often lost among the shadows of aviation legends like Marine Corps pilots John Smith and Marion Carl, the first American triple aces of the war, Joe Foss, the USMC’s all-time second leading ace and Black Sheep leader "Pappy" Boyington.

The struggle for Guadalcanal spawned acts of courage and heroism by members of all of the participating allied military forces.

36 posted on 08/07/2003 8:19:11 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: snippy_about_it; w_over_w
I'm sure that france is a lot like the US.

The small towns and villages in the interior still honoor and remember the sacrifices made by the Allies to liberate them, its the "academics" and big city "elite" who spit on the memory of our fallen.
37 posted on 08/07/2003 8:21:49 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: w_over_w
Don't worry about it, Snippy and I both read the entire thread so we see the posts whether we're pinged or not.
38 posted on 08/07/2003 8:23:46 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Yes.
And dream I do.
39 posted on 08/07/2003 8:28:08 AM PDT by Darksheare ("Liberals, fodder for the Dogs of War.")
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To: Johnny Gage
Thanks Johnny.

All German accounts I've read about Normandy stress the impact that Allied Tac Air (especially the Typhoons) had on troop movements, re-supply and morale. It was the Germans worst nightmare.


40 posted on 08/07/2003 8:31:47 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Drop the vase and it will become a Ming of the past.)
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