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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Claire Chennault & "The Flying Tigers" - Mar. 14th, 2003
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Posted on 03/14/2003 5:20:32 AM PST by SAMWolf

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General Claire Chennault & "The Flying Tigers"


The Flying Tigers were a group of American fighter pilots that flew for China in the early part of 1942. Led by a controversial American, Colonel Claire Chennault, they were actually called the "American Volunteer Group" (AVG), and achieved good success in their aerial battles against the Japanese.



They were a relatively small group of pilots, and never had more than 100 Curtis Warhawk P-40's (decorated with the famous red shark mouth) available. But at the time they were flying (early 1942), they were the only Americans doing ANYTHING against the Axis. With an American public reeling from Pearl Harbor and anxious to strike back "NOW!" the Flying Tigers were "the only game in town" at that point. Thus they received a lot of favorable press coverage, from reporters anxious to write about the only only Americans doing ANYTHING ANYWHERE against the Japanese.

The Flying Tigers comprised three squadrons:

1st Squadron - "Adam and Eves"
2nd Squadron - "Panda Bears"
3rd Squadron - "Hell's Angels"

The top aces of the Flying Tigers were: David Lee "Tex" Hill, Robert Neale, and Chuck Older. James Howard flew with the AVG; he later earned the Congressional Medal of Honor while flying P-51s for the 354th Fighter Group (Ninth Air Force) in Europe. Pappy Boyington was another Tiger who went on to greater fame; he had a falling out with Chennault, who gave him a Dishonorable Discharge. The mercurial Boyington never forgave him.



"Colonel" Claire Lee Chennault had been in China since the mid-Thirties; he called himself "Colonel," though his highest rank had been Major. An outspoken advocate of "pursuit" (as fighter planes were called then), in an Army Air Force dominated by strategic bomber theorists, he alienated many of his superiors. But in China, equipped with P-40's, he developed the basic fighter tactics that American pilots would use throughout the war. The Japanese planes used over China were much more maneuverable than his Warhawks, whose advantages were: speed in a dive, superior firepower, and better ability to absorb battle damage. Chennault worked out and documented the appropriate tactics that capitalized on the relative strengths of the American fighters: intercept, make a diving pass, avoid dogfighting, and dive away when in trouble. This remained the fundamental U.S. fighter doctrine throughout the Pacific War. My appreciation of the pilot's bravery and Chennault's tactical skills, however, doesn't change my assessment of the unfortunate and perhaps distracting role they played. The Chinese politics and Chinese-American relations at the time were quite complicated. The titular leader of China, Generalissimo Chiang Kai Chek, of the Kuomintang, was engaged in an endless three-way war: his Kuomintang vs. Mao's Communists vs. Japan. And his own power within the Kuomintang was dependent on balancing various warlords, cliques, and factions. Given the understandable problems posed by this situation, he always wanted more and more American aid, which he and his generals then wanted to use against internal enemies as well as Japan, or perhaps, not to use at all, but to hoard as symbols of their power.

General Chennault, got the Generalissimo's ear, and persuaded him that air power could sweep the Japanese from China, almost effortlessly and painlessly, just a few score American B-17 bombers would do the trick. Thus Chiang Kai Chek, General Chennault, Madame Chiang Kai Chek, and the powerful China Lobby used their combined influence with the American government to push Chennault's air power scheme.



Unfortunately, the adressing real issues in Nationalist China -- development of democratic or at least stable institutions, the rooting out of corruption in the Kuomintang, the training and deployment of useful Chinese infantry forces against Japan, improving the life of the ordinary villagers, etc. -- had no priority with the Generalissimo. Chennault's proposals seemed to offer such a promising way out.

The American government had its own problems, and couldn't scrape up the numbers of bombers envisioned. But keeping China in the war against Japan was understood to be in America's strategic interest (even before Pearl Harbor). What could be offered to Chiang was about 100 Curtis P-40 Warhawk fighter planes with volunteer military pilots to fly them. They fought with distinction, largely in the defense of Burma, and were absorbed into the United States Army Air Force's 23rd Fighter Group in July, 1942.



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41 posted on 03/14/2003 1:27:36 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: AntiJen
A salute to those men of that time they weren't afraid to take a stand and risk. The liberal leftists of today's American society who want everything to be soft and safe, they are the ones who truly do not deserve to benefit from the heritage left to us by men such as these.
42 posted on 03/14/2003 3:12:43 PM PST by Colt .45 (Certo scio, occisam saepe sapere plus multo suem.)
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To: SAMWolf; AntiJen; MistyCA; souris; SassyMom; GatorGirl; All
Evening everyone!

The American government had its own problems, and couldn't scrape up the numbers of bombers envisioned. But keeping China in the war against Japan was understood to be in America's strategic interest (even before Pearl Harbor). What could be offered to Chiang was about 100 Curtis P-40 Warhawk fighter planes with volunteer military pilots to fly them. They fought with distinction, largely in the defense of Burma, and were absorbed into the United States Army Air Force's 23rd Fighter Group in July, 1942.

43 posted on 03/14/2003 5:54:28 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good evening, Victoria, Excellent graphic. Can't believe I missed it.
44 posted on 03/14/2003 8:03:47 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: SAMWolf
LOL!!! You can't always win, you know.

I posted this at the FF. I like it.


45 posted on 03/14/2003 8:08:11 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: SAMWolf
SAMWolf, and all you other FReeper Foxholers; It makes me sad to think that my useful days as a member of The United States of America Armed Forces are so long past. I truly believe that if I was 30 years younger I would be some where along the Afgan-Packistan border looking for OBL. I would gladly give my life to get that guy in my cross hairs. I think it would also be fun to have the right sniper rifle and take his head right off of his shoulders, knowing that he would never hear the shot. What a treat it would be to get Saddam and OBL in the same place. It's even fun to just think about it.

Reading about these guy's that volinteered to go to China to fight the Japs got me to thinking about it. Thanks for all that each of you do to make the FReeper Foxhole what it is. Some days I don't even post, I just lurk and see what you are all up to. I am never sorry that I come here. It's people like all of you that show the Internet to be the best that it can be.

46 posted on 03/14/2003 8:29:43 PM PST by The Real Deal (The United States of America Armed Forces are the finest in the world. Bar none!)
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To: The Real Deal
Thanks Real Deal. I really appreciate the compliment.

If they had done this 6 years earlier I'd have been called up.
47 posted on 03/14/2003 8:36:11 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: SAMWolf
**bump**

Sam, I can't always keep up with you, but when I do I am so pleased.

As a child I took to a book I found on the Flying Tigers. It was as good a story as the Three Muskateers, Robinson Crusoe, or the Hardy Boys, and it was true. I was fascinated! To this day Chenault and his Tigers live in a large room in my memory.

Thanks!
48 posted on 03/14/2003 8:48:13 PM PST by nicollo
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Good Graphic. Thanks, I'll have to catch the song later, having trouble with my RA today
49 posted on 03/14/2003 8:51:03 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: nicollo
Thanks Nicollo. Glad you liked the thread.
50 posted on 03/14/2003 8:51:32 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: SAMWolf
If they had done this 6 years earlier I'd have been called up.

SAM, you would be some where on the desert chonping at the bit, and proud to be there. I know.

51 posted on 03/14/2003 8:56:47 PM PST by The Real Deal (The United States of America Armed Forces are the finest in the world. Bar none!)
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To: The Real Deal
chonping = chomping
52 posted on 03/14/2003 8:58:46 PM PST by The Real Deal (The United States of America Armed Forces are the finest in the world. Bar none!)
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To: The Real Deal
I think the unit is at Fort Carson right now, last I heard they haven't deployed overseas yet. But I am chomping at the bit, get this over with and bring them home
53 posted on 03/14/2003 8:59:54 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: SAMWolf
Me to SAM!
54 posted on 03/14/2003 9:24:06 PM PST by The Real Deal (The United States of America Armed Forces are the finest in the world. Bar none!)
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To: SAMWolf; AntiJen; E.G.C.

The Curtiss P-40 was undoubtedly one of the most controversial fighters to serve in quantity during the Second World War. It was praised and abused, lauded and vilified, but the fact remains that, as the first American single-seat fighter to be manufactured on a mass-production basis, it bore much of the brunt of the air warfare over several battle fronts. Its performance was inferior to the performances of the majority of its antagonists, but this shortcoming was partly compensated for by its tractability and its sturdiness which enabled it to withstand a considerable amount of punishment. It was amenable to adaptation and it was available when most sorely needed.

Not particularly good technically or in performance, though very durable, P-40s continued to be produced until the end of 1944, serving also with air force units of Turkey, South Africa, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. Later versions were known as Kittyhawks to the RAF and its Allies. Not usually realized is that the name Warhawk applied only to the United States Army Air Force P-40s starting with the P-40F version, a much improved plane with a license built version of the British Rolls-Royce Merlin engine installed.

The belief in the "ascendancy of bombardment over pursuit" was rife in 1937 when the Curtiss P-40 was first envisaged, and it is a sobering thought that, with the Bell P-39 Airacobra this product of such a school of thought constituted more than half the strength of all USAAF fighters until July 1943. Prior to September of that year the P-39 and P-40 also comprised more than half the USAAF fighters committed overseas. However, by July 1945 only one P-40 group remained operational.


GLENN H. CURTISS MUSEUM. The Curtiss Model 81, bearing the military designation XP-40, is photographed in
all its shiny, sleek splendor before testing resumes on
February 14, 1939. On April 26, Curtiss got a contract
to build 524 P-40s--the largest fighter order placed by
the U.S. Army since 1918.

The prototype P-40 took to the air in the autumn of 1938, and production was initiated in the following year. Performance of the first version of this single-seat fighter had not really come up to expectations, but as several air forces were desperate for new aircraft, the type was welcomed into service. The US had delayed modernizing its Army Air Service until the last minute, so P-40s made up a large part of their equipment during the first years of war. Britain and France also ordered P-40s to contend with the German Luftwaffe, but in the case of France, deliveries came too late and their P-40s were diverted to the Royal Air Force - to be known as Tomahawks. Similarly, the Soviet Union's outdated air force had fared badly at the hands of the Germans, and P-40s were also sent there.

The P-40 was initially designed around the Allison V-1710 liquid-cooled inline engine which offered better streamlining, more power per unit of frontal area, and better specific fuel consumption than did air-cooled radials of comparable power. Unfortunately, the rated altitude of the Allison engine was only some 12,000 feet, rendering combat above 15,000 feet a completely impracticable proposition. The P-40's ancestry dated back as far as 1924; the famed Curtiss Hawk fighters being in the forefront of all US warplanes. But its development was hindered from the start. The overall limitations of its design were such that the addition of multi-speed superchargers was considered inadvisable in view of the pending production of superior fighter designs. The achievements of the P-40 were therefore all the more creditable.

The prototype XP-40, the Curtiss Hawk Model 81, owed its origin to the earlier Model 75 of 1935 vintage. With the standardization of the Allison V-1710 , the P-36 design was reworked to incorporate this engine, becoming the XP-37 which was equipped with a General Electric turbo-supercharger, and featured numerous other modifications, including a rearward positioned cockpit. Thirteen YP-37s were built for service evaluation; but, with increasingly ominous signs of an approaching war, development of this fighter was abandoned in favor of a less complex and more direct conversion of the P-36 for the Allison engine, the XP-40. This was, in fact, the tenth production P-36A with an integrally-supercharged 1,160 h.p. Allison V-1710-19 (C13) engine, and first flew with its new power plant in the autumn of 1938. Successful in a US Army Pursuit Contest staged at Wright Field, in May 1939 it was awarded what was at that time the largest-ever production order for a US fighter, totaling nearly thirteen million dollars.

The P-40 was a relatively clean design, and was unusual for its time in having a fully retractable tail wheel. One hundred and ninety-seven P-40s were built in 1939-40 for the USAAF, and many more were sold abroad to Britain and France. In the RAF, which service purchased 140 outright, it was known as the Tomahawk Mk. I, IA, and IB, and carried two .303 in. Browning machine-guns in place of the 0.30in.-calibre guns fitted in USAAF machines. It retained the standard synchronized armament of two 0.5 in.-calibre machine-guns in the top nose decking.

The Flying Tigers

Many US volunteer pilots flew on behalf of Britain, the Soviet Union and China before the United States entered the war. A group of them, equipped with P-40s, went to help the Chinese in their struggle against the Japanese in 1942, where they became known as the 'Flying Tigers' because of their uniquely painted aircraft. This group later became part of the USAAF proper, and P-40s were thereafter used widely in the Pacific.

In the middle of 1941 General Claire Chennault began recruiting for his Volunteer Group--better known as the Flying Tigers--to fight the Japanese from China, for which 100 P40s were ordered for purchase through a loan from the US Government. Ninety aircraft, mostly P-40Bs, were actually delivered, sufficient for three squadrons, plus a few spares. At the time of the USA's entry into the war there were eighty American pilots in the Volunteer Group, and shortly after arriving at Kunming the P-40s drew first blood, six out of ten attacking Japanese bombers being destroyed by two of the AVG squadrons on December 20. There were no American casualties on this occasion, but the third squadron, left behind at Mingaladon, Burma, was less fortunate, and lost two pilots on their first interception, on December 23,1941. The American pilots had underestimated the maneuverability of the lightly built Japanese Zero fighters, and failed to utilize their superior speed and diving ability to advantage. It was soon the cardinal rule that a P-40 should always avoid mixing it individually with a Japanese fighter, owing to the Curtiss machine's inferior climb rate and maneuverability, but the P-40 substantiated a reputation for ruggedness that it was already acquiring with the RAF in the Middle East, and its armor protection saved many AVG pilots in subsequent combat.

Many US volunteer pilots equipped with P-40s, went to help the Chinese in their struggle against the Japanese in 1942, where they became known as the 'Flying Tigers'.

Both the Flying Tigers in China and the RAF squadrons in the Middle East had their P-40Bs replaced by P-40Es. The AVG after continuous operation, was down to some twenty P-40Bs by March 1942, when some thirty P-40Es were ferried to China by air from Accra, in Africa. The improved performance offered by these more potent P-40s was found to be extremely valuable against the Mitsubishi A6M Zero-Sen fighters which, first introduced in the Chinese theatre in 1940, were becoming increasingly numerous. The ground-attack potential of the P-40E was also much superior. The AVG pilots had resorted to carrying 30-lb. incendiary and fragmentation bombs in the flare chutes of their P-40Bs, but it was questionable whether this was not more hazardous to the attackers than to the attacked. But some indication of the P-40's capabilities in resolute hands is given by the fact that from its inception in December 1941 until July 4, 1942, when it was absorbed by the USAAF, the AVG was officially credited with the destruction of 286 Japanese aircraft for the loss of eight pilots killed in action, two pilots and one crew chief killed during ground attack, and four pilots missing. The top-scoring AVG pilot, Robert H. Neale, was credited with the destruction of sixteen enemy aircraft while flying the P-40, and eight other pilots claimed ten or more victories.

One of the most significant steps in P-40 development came in 1941, when a British-built Rolls-Royce Merlin 28 engine with a single-stage, two-speed supercharger was installed in a Kittyhawk I airframe to improve its high-altitude performance. The Curtiss H-87-D, or XP-40F, as the Merlin-powered prototype became known, then had 1,300 hp available for takeoff, and 1,120 hp at 18,500 feet, which offered vast improvements over earlier models and endowed a maximum speed of 373 mph. This was reduced slightly in the YP-40F, which, like later variants, had the Packard-built Merlin V-1650-1 and revised cooling, the air intake above the cowling being incorporated in the radiator scoop. Gross weight climbed to 9,870 lb.

Following experiments in cooling-drag reduction in 1943 with a P-40K-10-CU which had its "beard" radiator removed to wing installations, and in rear vision improvements by installing a "bubble" canopy on a standard P-40L, a general " clean-up " programme was initiated, resulting in the sole XP-40Q. With a 1,425 hp Allison V-1710-121 engine, the XP-40Q was modified from the first P-40K-I to have a "bubble" canopy and cut-down rear fuselage, wing radiators and, eventually, clipped wing tips. A four-blade propeller was fitted, and water injection installed. With a weight of only 9,000 lb, the XP40Q attained a maximum speed of 422 mph. This was still less than the speed attained by contemporary production Mustangs and Thunderbolts , however, and the XP-40Q did not achieve production.

55 posted on 03/14/2003 9:24:59 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Great History of the P-40, Phildragoo. Some really good shots too. Thanks
56 posted on 03/14/2003 9:34:34 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: SAMWolf

I spent years in the '70's with a former Pan Am stewardess who,
flying in the '50's, reported several pilots were veterans
of the Flying Tigers and would tell the stewardi to strap in for
aerobatics on deadhead.


They had to keep their seams straight.

Drunk pilots would try to rape them in cold British castle stayovers.

Would like to see trap doors installed before cockpit doors.

They would swing open if cockpit door is jimmied.

The next Mohammad Atta becomes first Islamofascist in Space.

High time to kick ass and come home--Godspeed Warriors.

57 posted on 03/14/2003 9:54:23 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
I came back from my first tour in Nam on Flying Tiger Airlines. We all got a big kick out of the FTA on the tail of the plane.
58 posted on 03/14/2003 9:58:04 PM PST by SAMWolf (The French are cordially invited to come to Wisconsin and smell our dairy air)
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To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!!
59 posted on 03/15/2003 3:08:00 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: SAMWolf
How come the Marines took Boyington after the Army refused him? And as a major? Was he one of the former Navy and Marine pilots the article refered to?
60 posted on 03/15/2003 3:24:02 AM PST by GATOR NAVY (avoiding the embrassment of forgetting to clear a tag that's inappropriate for my next post)
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