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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Gen. Anthony McAuliffe at Bastonge - Dec. 22nd, 2002
http://www.thedropzone.org/europe/Bulge/kinnard.html ^ | Patrick O'Donnell

Posted on 12/22/2002 12:03:28 AM PST by SAMWolf

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"NUTS!" Revisited


An Interview with Lt. General Harry W. O. Kinnard


On December 16, 1944, the Germans launched their largest offensive of the war on the Western Front. The primary goals of the offensive were to capture the Belgian port of Antwerp and to drive a wedge between the British and American armies. This offensive is often referred to as the "Battle of the Bulge." It's failure was due largely to American resistance around St. Vith, on the northern shoulder of the Bulge, and by American forces holding Bastogne on the southern shoulder of the Bulge.

The town of Bastogne is strategically located at the center of the road network of the Ardennes. The Germans referred to it as a "road octopus" since the majority of roads in that region of the Ardennes pass through the town. The town's strategic location made it vitally important to the outcome of the offensive. The Allies realized its importance and General Eisenhower dispatched the 101st Airborne Division to hold the town at all costs. This victory resulted in the first full Army Division Presidential Distinguished Unit Citation.

This interview focuses on the story surrounding the German's request for the American forces at Bastogne to surrender and the American General's response as witnessed by Lt. General Harry Kinnard, at the time of the siege of Bastogne, a Lt. Col. and Division G-3. These are some of his personal recollections.



We got into Bastogne late on the night of 18 December, 1944. We were not well equipped, having just gotten out of combat in Holland. We were particularly short of winter clothing and footwear. On the 21st of December we became completely surrounded by Germans and our field hospital was overrun by a German attack. We had put the hospital in what would normally have been a safe place, but no place is safe when you are completely surrounded. At this time, we were not able to receive air resupply because the weather was absolutely frightful. It was very, very cold and snowy. Visibility was often measured in yards. Our lack of winter gear was partially offset by the citizens of Bastogne who gave us blankets and white linens that we used for camouflage.

While we were still surrounded, on the morning of December 22, a German surrender party, consisting of two officers and two NCOs, and carrying a white flag, approached our perimeter in the area of our Glider Regiment, the 327th. The party was taken to a nearby platoon command post. While the enlisted men were detained the officers were blind folded and taken to the command post of the 327th where they presented their surrender ultimatum. The ultimatum in essence said the 101st's position was hopeless and that if we elected not to surrender a lot of bad things would happen.



The message was brought in to the Division Headquarters by Major Alvin Jones, the S-3, and Colonel Harper, the Regimental Commander. They brought the message to me, the G-3 and Paul Danahy, the G-2. My first reaction was that this was a German ruse, designed to get our men out of their fox holes. But be that as it might, we agreed that we needed to take the message up the line. We took it first to the acting Chief of Staff of the Division, Lt. Col. Ned Moore. With him, we took the message to the acting Division Commander General Tony McAuliffe. Moore told General McAuliffe that we had a German surrender ultimatum. The General's first reaction was that the Germans wanted to surrender to us. Col. Moore quickly disabused him of that notion and explained that the German's demanded our surrender. When McAuliffe heard that he laughed and said: "Us surrender? Aw, nuts!" the date was December 22nd, 1944

To the U.S.A. Commander of the encircled town of Bastogne.

The fortune of war is changing. This time the U.S.A. forces in and near Bastogne have been encircled by strong German armored units. More German armored units have crossed the river Our near Ortheuville, have taken Marche and reached St. Hubert by passing through Hompre-Sibret-Tillet. Libramont is in German hands.

There is only one possibility to save the encircled U.S.A. troops from total annihilation: that is the honorable surrender of the encircled town. In order to think it over a term of two hours will be granted beginning with the presentation of this note.

If this proposal should be rejected one German Artillery Corps and six heavy A. A. Battalions are ready to annihilate the U.S.A. troops in and near Bastogne. The order for firing will be given immediately after this two hours' term.

All the serious civilian losses caused by this artillery fire would not correspond with the well known American humanity.

The German Commander.


But then McAuliffe realized that some sort of reply was in order. He pondered for a few minutes and then told the staff, "Well I don't know what to tell them." He then asked the staff what they thought, and I spoke up, saying, "That first remark of yours would be hard to beat." McAuliffe said, "What do you mean?" I answered, "Sir, you said 'Nuts'." All members of the staff enthusiastically agreed, and McAuliffe decided to send that one word, "Nuts!" back to the Germans. McAuliffe then wrote down:

"To the German Commander,

"Nuts!"

The American Commander."


McAuliffe then asked Col. Harper to deliver the message to the Germans. Harper took the typed message back to the company command post where the two German officers were detained. Harper then told the Germans that he had the American commanders reply. The German captain then asked, "Is it written or verbal?" Harper responded that it was written and added, "I will place it in your hand."

The German major then asked, "Is the reply negative or affirmative? If it is the latter I will negotiate further."



At this time the Germans were acting in an arrogant and patronizing manner and Harper, who was starting to lose his temper, responded, "The reply is decidedly not affirmative." He then added that, "If you continue your foolish attack your losses will be tremendous."

Harper then put the German officers in a jeep and took them back to where the German enlisted men were detained. He then said to the German captain, "If you don't know what 'Nuts' means, in plain English it is the same as 'Go to Hell'. And I'll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddam German that tries to break into this city."

The German major and captain saluted very stiffly. The captain said, "We will kill many Americans. This is war." Harper then responded, "On your way Bud," he then said, "and good luck to you." Harper later told me he always regretted wishing them good luck.



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To: SAMWolf
Yes, I thought it was good. Thanks! I think it would be good for you to ask Santa to bring you a scanner for Xmas! :)
101 posted on 12/22/2002 2:14:44 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Darksheare
One of my Aunts was in the Luftwaffe as an Hitler Madchen Aide. Towards the end of the war she and the others were given a weapon and told to defend the town. She said she saw the American tanks coming and they all just threw down their weapons and surrendered without firing a shot. She was 17.

My Mom went to sleep one night and woke up in the morning to an American occupied town, the garrison had surrendered without a fight. The next town down the road was defended by SS and they put up a hell of a fight and the town was pretty much leveled.

102 posted on 12/22/2002 2:15:48 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf; Darksheare
OK..I have to leave for a while. See you guys later. Nice thread, Sam! Kudos!
103 posted on 12/22/2002 2:18:17 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: SAMWolf; AntiJen; MistyCA; SpookBrat; souris; SassyMom; kneezles; All
Harper then put the German officers in a jeep and took them back to where the German enlisted men were detained. He then said to the German captain, "If you don't know what 'Nuts' means, in plain English it is the same as 'Go to Hell'. And I'll tell you something else, if you continue to attack we will kill every goddam German that tries to break into this city."

The German major and captain saluted very stiffly. The captain said, "We will kill many Americans. This is war." Harper then responded, "On your way Bud," he then said, "and good luck to you." Harper later told me he always regretted wishing them good luck.

LOL, I shouldn't laugh. Great post Sam, thank you.

American soldiers of the 289th Infantry Regiment march along the snow-covered road on their way to cut off the Saint Vith-Houffalize road in Belgium. National Archives Photo

104 posted on 12/22/2002 2:23:51 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Darksheare

No mention of the clock and it's not in this picture

105 posted on 12/22/2002 2:25:34 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Hi Victoria.

Anecdotes From the Bugle

"Clang!" The impact of the high-velocity armor-piercing shell shook the King Tiger and hurled Rheinhold Minke, its commander, against the cupola. He straightened up and realized that he, his crew, and his tank, were unhurt. They had taken a direct hit at pointblank range from a Sherman and were unscathed. The terror brought on by the impact gave way to a sense of invulnerability and then, blood lust. "Get 'em, Kurt!" he shouted to his gunner.

Kurt stomped on the treadle plate that rotated the turret. Slowly the huge gun came to bear on the Sherman not 200 meters away. An evil grin spread across Minke's face as he imagined what was going on inside that Sherman right now. "Nothing can save you now!" he muttered triumphantly. The huge gun belched fire, and the Sherman's turret was half torn-off by the impact. The driver's hatch popped open and the driver climbed out, his clothing smoking. "Mow him down!" Minke shouted, but Kurt was already firing the machine gun. The American got ten yards and then his body flopped into the snow like a broken doll. Another round hit the turret; Minke's nose was broken when his face hit the cupola. Kurt's arm was cut by a metal flake that had spalled off the inside of the turret at the impact point. The spot was still glowing a dull red. Again the huge turret traversed, again the mighty gun roared, and another Sherman disintegrated.

More rounds hit, clawing deep gouges in the Tiger's armor, but never penetrating it. Minke's crew was battered and cut, but not incapacitated. Working methodically, they destroyed two more of their attackers. Then the Americans fled. Rheinhold Minke, king of the battlefield, nursing two cracked ribs and bleeding from the nose, let them go.

106 posted on 12/22/2002 2:27:06 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
My mom had a relative, a cousin of her grandfather, that was in the SS. An article ran in the Toldedo Ohio newspaper about him. Caused some anger and embarrassment in the family.
Tracking down the rest of the family is hard, records have been lost or destroyed. Or outright altered.
So trying to find out what happened to the guy. *Shrugs*
Doubt I ever will find out.
(His last name was Hutchinson. He was in the SS, not a nice guy I assume.)
107 posted on 12/22/2002 2:29:51 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: SAMWolf
Garn. Was wondering if it's like the pocket watch someone had that had stopped when their son died. (Vague memory from way back. Don't know if anyone knows anything about it.)
Was wondering if there was a story behind it. Kinda like a china doll that survived it's building being flattened and other such sort of thing.
108 posted on 12/22/2002 2:33:01 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: MistyCA
OKers. Laters. Keep the place warm for your return.
109 posted on 12/22/2002 2:33:46 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: SAMWolf
GenX bump. I spent what was then the better part of my net worth a few years back taking an indefinite time touring WWII sites in Europe. No real plan at first, other than to get the hell away from the desk and see something substantial. One leg of my trip was a drive from Liege to Bastogne and Malmedy (Baugnez) on down to Luxembourg. Saw most of the memorials you've listed. I chose to go in the dead of winter, when there was snow on the ground and no other travellers around. Hard to get a grasp of what was going on over there back then, until you see town after town expressing their gratitude with an American memorial on the highway. It is as if small-town Europeans are expressing more appreciation for the USA than even we do in our own country.

The cemeteries over there are especially sobering. You're looking at a sea of crosses and stars, names and home states...Texas, Alabama, Wyoming...all represented on snow-covered fields an ocean away from home. And the ocean was a hell of a lot bigger then. "This marker is final resting place of twenty men, Known but to God." A long, one-way trip from Nebraska, Minnesota, Louisiana. The Walls of the Missing - hundreds of names that quiety serve notice of infantry, armor, air crew, sailors simply vanished into foreign air, under foreign soil and waves.

110 posted on 12/22/2002 2:56:15 PM PST by Semaphore Heathcliffe
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To: SAMWolf
Wow! good post, Sam.
111 posted on 12/22/2002 2:56:36 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul
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To: Victoria Delsoul
Hi, Victoria! Good post. :)
112 posted on 12/22/2002 3:44:55 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: SAMWolf

The World War II Ardennes American Cemetery and Memorial is located near the southeast edge of Neupre (Neuville-en-Condroz), Belgium, twelve miles southwest of Liege. The main highway to Marche passes the cemetery entrance. Liege can be reached by express train from Paris (Gare du Nord) in about five and a half hours; from Brussels and from Germany via Aachen. Taxicabs and limited bus service to Neupre are available from Liege. There are several hotels in the city.

The approach drive leads to the memorial, a rectangular structure bearing on its facade a massive American eagle and other symbolic sculptures. Within are the chapel, three large wall maps composed of inlaid marble, marble panels depicting combat and supply activities and other ornamental features. Along the outside of the memorial, inscribed on granite slabs, are the names of 462 American Missing who gave their lives in the service of their country, but whose remains were never recovered or identified. The cemetery, ninety acres in extent, contains the graves of 5,328 American military Dead, many of whom died in the so-called "Battle of the Bulge." Their headstones are aligned in straight rows which compose the form of a huge Greek cross on the lawn and are framed by tree masses. The cemetery served as the location of the Central Identification Point for the American Graves Registration Service of the War Department during much of the life of the Service.

The facade on the far (north) end, which overlooks the burial area bears the insignia in mosaic of the major United States units which operated in the Northwest Europe in World War II.

Memorial from the Graves Area

113 posted on 12/22/2002 3:48:14 PM PST by MistyCA
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Off topic but worth mentioning:

Flanders Field

Center> The World War I Flanders Field American Cemetery and Memorial lies on the southeast edge of the town of Waregem, Belgium, along the Lille-Gent AutoRoute E-17. It is located 175 miles north of Paris, France and 46 miles west of Brussels. The cemetery is within 30 miles of Brugge (Brugges) and Gent (Gand), the two largest cities in Flanders. Waregem may be reached by train from Brussels via Gent (Gand) in approximately one hour; from Paris, Gare du Nord, in about five hours via Rysel (Lille) and Kortrijk (Courtrai), and five and one-half hours via Brussels and Gent. Taxi service is available from the station in Waregem.

The cemetery occupies a six acre site. Masses of graceful trees and shrubbery frame the burial area and screen it from the passing traffic. At the ends of the paths leading to three of the corners of the cemetery are circular retreats with benches and urns. At this peaceful location rest 368 American military Dead most of whom gave their lives in liberating Belgium in World War I. Their headstones are aligned in four symmetrical areas around the white stone chapel which stands in the center of the cemetery,

The altar inside the chapel is of black and white Grand Antique marble having draped flags on each side; above it is a crusader's sword outlined in gold. The chapel furniture is of carved oak, stained black and white veining to harmonize with the altar. On the side walls are inscribed the names of 43 of the Missing in Action who gave their lives in the service of their Country, but whose remains were never recovered or identified.

114 posted on 12/22/2002 3:55:41 PM PST by MistyCA
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Henri-Chapelle American Cemetary and Memorial

The World War II Henri-Chapelle American Cemetery and Memorial is located two miles northeast of the village of Henri-Chapelle, Belgium, which is on the main highway from Liege (18 miles) to Aachen, Germany (10 miles). Henri-Chapelle is four and a half miles northwest of the Welkenraedt Exit (seven miles from the German border) on the Aachen-Antwerp Autoroute. Welkendaedt, the nearest railroad station with taxi service to the cemetery. It may be reached by train from Paris (Gare du Nord), Brussels and Aachen.

At this cemetery, covering fifty seven acres, rests 7,989 American military Dead, most of whom gave their lives during the advance of the American Armed Forces into Germany during World War II. Their headstones are arranged in gentle arcs sweeping across a broad green lawn which slopes gently downhill.

A highway passes through the reservation. West of the highway an overlook affords an excellent view of the rolling countryside, once a battlefield. To the east is a long colonnade, which with a chapel and museum at either end, overlooks the burial area. The chapel is simple but richly ornamented. Two maps of military operations, carved in black granite, with inscriptions recalling the achievements of the American Armed Forces are in the museum. The cemetery possesses great military historic significance as it accommodated the fallen Americans of two major efforts - one covering the U.S. First Army's drive in September 1944 through northern France, Belgium, Holland, and Luxembourg into Germany - and second covering the Battle of the Bulge

Central Mall

Front View of Memorial

On the rectangular piers of the colonnade are inscribed the names of 450 Americans who gave their lives in the service of their country but whose remains were never recovered or identified. The seals of the states and territories are also carved on these piers.

It was from the temporary cemetery at Henri-Chapelle that the first shipment of remains of American War Dead were returned to the U.S. for permanent burial. The repatriation program began on July 27, 1947 at a special ceremony at Henri-Chapelle American Cemetery when the disinterment began. The first shipment of 5,600 American Dead from Henri-Chapelle left Antwerp, Belgium the first week of October 1947. An impressive ceremony was held with over 30,000 reverent Belgium citizens attending and representatives of the Belgium government and senior Americans presiding.

115 posted on 12/22/2002 4:05:51 PM PST by MistyCA
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To: Semaphore Heathcliffe
I went through in the summer and it is amaziong the number of memorials to the Americans in the towns.

Most are well maintained by the locals. I guess small towns are the same world wide, the Socialists and the Liberals seem to gravitate to the big cities, but the samall towns keep a country's heritage and history alive.
116 posted on 12/22/2002 4:11:23 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: MistyCA
All those crosses!

The price we paid to Free those countries and the way we get repaid by their governments, makes me want to throw up.
117 posted on 12/22/2002 4:13:49 PM PST by SAMWolf
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Anecdotes From the Bugle

Late on Christmas eve, Lt. Colonel Walter Richardson was commanding a tank battalion at Manhay when the 2nd SS Panzer Division began its attack on the vital crossroads. The timing of that attack was perfect; another tank battalion from the 7th Armored Division was pulling out just as the attack began. In the confusion of the attack, the Germans got across the small bridge before it could be destroyed. Then two German tanks snuck into the retreating American armored column. A few minutes later they swung out into a field beside the road and began pouring fire into the defenseless American vehicles. The Americans scattered. Richardson jumped into an abandoned Sherman and took a shot at a Tiger, but the round bounced harmlessly off the huge German tank and its countershot destroyed Richardson's tank.

Richardson hopped into a jeep and bugged out, stopping a mile away in Grandmenil. There he found two American M10 tank destroyers. He positioned them to intercept any approaching German armor. Within a few minutes, two Panthers appeared, churning through a field in the blinding snowstorm. The first TD knocked one out with a shot into its side. But a third Panther blew up the American TD with a lucky hit on its ammunition rack. The second M10 now tried a frontal shot against a Panther. It bounced off, and the Panther returned the fire. The Panther's second shot knocked out the TD.

Realizing that he'd been beaten again, Richardson called down an artillery barrage on the little village and bugged out for the second time that night. In three days of continuous fighting his command had been reduced from 65 tanks to under a dozen.

118 posted on 12/22/2002 4:14:52 PM PST by SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
That HAS to be frustrating.
(Understatement of the year.)
119 posted on 12/22/2002 4:19:57 PM PST by Darksheare
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To: SAMWolf
We should have left the French in the nice warm loving hands of the Germans.
120 posted on 12/22/2002 4:21:09 PM PST by Darksheare
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