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This Vietnam vet offers some advice to you brave Afghanistan Veterans; Don't take it personal, your country, family and friends love and appreciate you for your service to America, even though the politicians and generals let you down. I'm still pissed after 50 years, try not to be like me.

1 posted on 08/19/2021 9:29:58 PM PDT by PROCON
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2 posted on 08/19/2021 9:30:29 PM PDT by PROCON (Our rights do not come from government, therefore they cannot take them away.)
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To: PROCON

I’m pissed that we abandoned allies!

I’m still trying to get a guy out of Kabul!

The girls are buying poison to suicide with so they won’t be raped.

Also the Taliban aren’t Afghani, it’s a different dialect, actually many different dialects. Foreign ones.


3 posted on 08/19/2021 9:33:22 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: PROCON

Joe Biden ****** up. This is his legacy. I am proud of all who has served in Vietnam and Afghanistan. My words are not enough. But thank you for your service.


5 posted on 08/19/2021 9:36:53 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: PROCON

As an aside; have you guys noticed since the Afghanistan tragedy, FOX News has turned off comments on almost all their videos?!

Fox News is disgusting!


6 posted on 08/19/2021 9:37:12 PM PDT by Artcore
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To: PROCON

These are NOT failures of anyone who actually served in our wars.

It’s a failure of assholes who sat comfortably behind desks.


7 posted on 08/19/2021 9:39:16 PM PDT by Jamestown1630 ("A Republic, if you can keep it.")
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To: PROCON

Onboard USS PORT ROYAL (CG 73) inport Pearl Harbor 11SEP01. Admiral shifted his flag from base HQ to PORT ROYAL. We radiated SPY-1B radar inport with missile launchers up. We were ready to down Japanese airliners that could not be turned around because of fuel. Then off to Tora Bora and Operation ANACONDA. Then back to Operation ENDURING FREEDOM two more times.

Glad I’m retired because our woke Navy cannot even pilot a shipping lane or put out a fire. But all hands muster for Diversity Thursday. Are ships are just going to be Chinese missile sponges.


9 posted on 08/19/2021 9:52:13 PM PDT by Drunkin_Squid
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Twice in one lifetime I have witnessed our “elected” representatives misuse and then abuse out best and bravest patriots. I didn’t think that possible and yet .....

For all my young brothers and sisters know I love each and every one of you in a special way that those who weren’t there will never understand.


12 posted on 08/19/2021 10:11:38 PM PDT by ImpBill (An American EXPAT in America.)
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To: PROCON

“This Vietnam vet offers some advice to you brave Afghanistan Veterans; Don’t take it personal, your country, family and friends love and appreciate you for your service to America, even though the politicians and generals let you down. I’m still pissed after 50 years, try not to be like me”.

This VN vet couldn’t agree more and I feel the same way.

50 years ago this year for me, too.

C-1/501 101st Airborne Div.


14 posted on 08/19/2021 10:12:56 PM PDT by laplata
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To: PROCON
The US Military actually won the Vietnam war in spite of LBJ's disastrous micro-managing interference.

We passed off a winnable conflict to South Vietnam's Military and Political system, and they would have eventually defeated the Commies IF the United States Congress would have continued to supply ammunition and fuel.

The one thing South Vietnam didn't have was money, they were broke and couldn't buy resupply.

The cowardly traitors that lost the Vietnam War were the US Politicians, American Media and the dope smoking Baby Boomer Hippies that run the Democrat Swamp now.

15 posted on 08/19/2021 10:14:07 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: PROCON

Well said!

Be pissed off! You were not treated righteously nor were you treated well.

All these years later, the same despotic, tyrannical and socialist/communist hammer at our American door. Go figure.

You did your duty, you did your job, you served others before yourself and you did it well!

We, as a Country, either get our shiiete in one sock in short order, or as millions fear...America’s days are numbered.

V/R,


18 posted on 08/19/2021 10:25:45 PM PDT by RetAF_fedUP (The sock puppet isn't my President. "Beijing Biden" & his corrupt family are a national disgrace!)
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To: PROCON

The army is worried. They keep sending out emails about looking out for vets that might be struggling. What I heard from a current army employee.

Either their worried about mental health or pissed of vets. I will let you decide.


19 posted on 08/19/2021 10:29:03 PM PDT by wgmalabama (We will find out if the Vac or virus risk was the correct choice - can we put truth above narrative)
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To: PROCON

It happens that threads on FR sometimes get hijacked and morphed into totally different discussions. I see this one is no difference.

Thanks for posting this for Service Members and Vets to sound off.

And for those who took this thread in a different direction, I don’t give a flyin’ f##k about Fox News. Wanna talk about it, start a thread of its own.


21 posted on 08/19/2021 11:13:15 PM PDT by ImpBill (An American EXPAT in America.)
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To: PROCON

Procon: Stay pissed but in the fight against the Democrats and the other fools who wouldn’t let us “win” again.

We and the So. Vietnamese had won the ground war in the early 1970’s as the VC was decimated as a fighting force and where I travelled in the Mekong Delta, was being wiped out as a political force (way beyond what some of the media told you). It wasn’t an all-out victory but the people of SVN could see the positive developments that the US/Allies and SVN Govt/forces (PSDFs, PFs, RFs, and ARVN combined) had brought to them in terms of health, educational, infrastructure and safety gains.

In 1972, the ARVN/VNAF etc stopped the NVA Easter offensive without American fighting troops (we gave them a lot of good air power) but they fought it on the ground.

The Democrats sold SVN, Cambodia (where I also went as a journalist), and Laos to the communists, knowingly, willingly, and blindly by cutting down and then off the materials of war needed to stop the 1974/75 NVA invasion forces.

If we had cut the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in a very serious manner in 1969-70, and taken out Haiphong as one NVA senior military defector told me, SVN would still be free today and the genocide of Cambodia would never have happened (I was the only journalist that I know of who warned, through a Secret document I got declassified and presented in a congressional hearing in 1974 (and 9175), what was happening to Cambodians under Khmer Rouge occupation and what would happen in the future. Sadly the document (i.e. The Quinn Report, Cantho, June or July 1974) was ignored by the Dems.

We could have WON with a capital “W” if the politicians were kept out of the war and our newer military leaders of the 70’s were given free reign to destroy the enemies’ supply lines, bases (MuGia Pass and Haiphone, HCMTrail).
An army travels on its stomach and in many parts of SVN, there is “no food” or not enough to support divisions who have to stay in place for long periods of time before going out on the attack.

Remember, the ARVN took the U Minh Forest when no other army ever did (I flew by it and it fell to either the 1st or 7th ARVN division(s) a few weeks later.

Plus our Cambodian operation of 1970 destroyed major VC/NVA base camps, stockpiles of weapons and food, and captured over 1 million pages of documents that laid out the communist military and political plans for months or even years ahead.

Joe Galloway, a fellow journalist, died the other day, not sadly because of age, but because he had to see another Democrat betrayal of America’s fighting forces.

And a couple weeks ago, another old friend, civilian (Navy contractor) Larry Stark, POW from Tet to freedom in 1973, passed away. He never gave in, never surrendered his American pride and patriotism, never betrayed his Vietnamese friends, or his country.

I’m glad he didn’t have to see what brain-dead leftist POS Biden, his VP political whore Harris, and the rest of the incompetent traitors like Blinken, Sullivan, Austin and Milli Vanilli did to Afghanistan.

The legacy of Ted Kennedy (I’ll deal with the communists in order to become the president), McGovern the longtime communist sympathizer (since WW2 - re Tito), Dodd, John Kerry who never stopped betraying freedom all around the world, Durbin the Little Shit, Schumer, Pelosi, and others, lives on in the masses graves, torture chambers and prisons of whole peoples from SVN, Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan to Nicaragua, Cuba, ISIS and a resurgent Marxist takeover of Latin America.

Damn them all to Hell.

I’ll never forget our Armed Forces and the civilians who supported them.

Son - Op. Iraq Freedom
Son-in-Law - Kosovo and Desert Storm
Father - CWS - WW2
Father-in-Law - Saipan, Tinian, Eniwetok, and Iwo
Mother - Dept. of the Army, WW2

MadMax, still in for the fight for the remainder of my life.

I like Church - We will never surrender, never give in, never stop fighting.


23 posted on 08/20/2021 1:55:51 AM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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Ping.


24 posted on 08/20/2021 4:06:43 AM PDT by Jet Jaguar (Fascists never think they’re the fascists.)
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To: PROCON; laplata; ImpBill; MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
This Vietnam vet offers some advice to you brave Afghanistan Veterans; Don't take it personal, your country, family and friends love and appreciate you for your service to America, even though the politicians and generals let you down. I'm still pissed after 50 years, try not to be like me.

Couldn’t have said it better myself, bro. I am still bitter about it, since I left Vietnam in 1971. Stay strong.

Bien Hoa Air Base, Republic of Vietnam

26 posted on 08/20/2021 5:05:56 AM PDT by Mark17 (Air Traffic Controller, retired. Father of US Air Force 1st Lieutenant, and trained combat pilot )
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To: PROCON

If you are able, save for them a place inside of you.
And save one backward glance when you are leaving,
for the places they can no longer go.
Be not ashamed to say that you loved them,
though you may not have always.
Take what they have left and what they have taught you
with their dying and keep it your own.
And in a time, when men decide and feel safe
to call war insane, take one moment to embrace
those gentle heroes you left behind.
Written by Major Michael Davis O’Donnell, helicopter pilot; 1 January 1970,
Dak To, Vietnam; KIA on March 24, 1970 (originally MIA until 1978)


31 posted on 08/20/2021 7:20:40 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. P144:1)
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To: PROCON; Jet Jaguar; Chainmail

I concur with your statement.


33 posted on 08/20/2021 8:19:30 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: PROCON
This Vietnam vet offers some advice to you brave Afghanistan Veterans; Don't take it personal, your country, family and friends love and appreciate you for your service to America, even though the politicians and generals let you down.

I’m not a vet, but have family that are, and have always appreciated our military and what they did for us.

The way you veterans have been treated by the left is beyond despicable and does not reflect in the least how many of us really feel.

God bless you all. You are very loved and very appreciated.

35 posted on 08/24/2021 7:00:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith….)
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