Posted on 08/19/2021 9:29:58 PM PDT by PROCON
It happens that threads on FR sometimes get hijacked and morphed into totally different discussions. I see this one is no difference.
Thanks for posting this for Service Members and Vets to sound off.
And for those who took this thread in a different direction, I don’t give a flyin’ f##k about Fox News. Wanna talk about it, start a thread of its own.
Well said, +1
Thread discipline guys.
Procon: Stay pissed but in the fight against the Democrats and the other fools who wouldn’t let us “win” again.
We and the So. Vietnamese had won the ground war in the early 1970’s as the VC was decimated as a fighting force and where I travelled in the Mekong Delta, was being wiped out as a political force (way beyond what some of the media told you). It wasn’t an all-out victory but the people of SVN could see the positive developments that the US/Allies and SVN Govt/forces (PSDFs, PFs, RFs, and ARVN combined) had brought to them in terms of health, educational, infrastructure and safety gains.
In 1972, the ARVN/VNAF etc stopped the NVA Easter offensive without American fighting troops (we gave them a lot of good air power) but they fought it on the ground.
The Democrats sold SVN, Cambodia (where I also went as a journalist), and Laos to the communists, knowingly, willingly, and blindly by cutting down and then off the materials of war needed to stop the 1974/75 NVA invasion forces.
If we had cut the Ho Chi Minh Trail, in a very serious manner in 1969-70, and taken out Haiphong as one NVA senior military defector told me, SVN would still be free today and the genocide of Cambodia would never have happened (I was the only journalist that I know of who warned, through a Secret document I got declassified and presented in a congressional hearing in 1974 (and 9175), what was happening to Cambodians under Khmer Rouge occupation and what would happen in the future. Sadly the document (i.e. The Quinn Report, Cantho, June or July 1974) was ignored by the Dems.
We could have WON with a capital “W” if the politicians were kept out of the war and our newer military leaders of the 70’s were given free reign to destroy the enemies’ supply lines, bases (MuGia Pass and Haiphone, HCMTrail).
An army travels on its stomach and in many parts of SVN, there is “no food” or not enough to support divisions who have to stay in place for long periods of time before going out on the attack.
Remember, the ARVN took the U Minh Forest when no other army ever did (I flew by it and it fell to either the 1st or 7th ARVN division(s) a few weeks later.
Plus our Cambodian operation of 1970 destroyed major VC/NVA base camps, stockpiles of weapons and food, and captured over 1 million pages of documents that laid out the communist military and political plans for months or even years ahead.
Joe Galloway, a fellow journalist, died the other day, not sadly because of age, but because he had to see another Democrat betrayal of America’s fighting forces.
And a couple weeks ago, another old friend, civilian (Navy contractor) Larry Stark, POW from Tet to freedom in 1973, passed away. He never gave in, never surrendered his American pride and patriotism, never betrayed his Vietnamese friends, or his country.
I’m glad he didn’t have to see what brain-dead leftist POS Biden, his VP political whore Harris, and the rest of the incompetent traitors like Blinken, Sullivan, Austin and Milli Vanilli did to Afghanistan.
The legacy of Ted Kennedy (I’ll deal with the communists in order to become the president), McGovern the longtime communist sympathizer (since WW2 - re Tito), Dodd, John Kerry who never stopped betraying freedom all around the world, Durbin the Little Shit, Schumer, Pelosi, and others, lives on in the masses graves, torture chambers and prisons of whole peoples from SVN, Cambodia, Laos, Afghanistan to Nicaragua, Cuba, ISIS and a resurgent Marxist takeover of Latin America.
Damn them all to Hell.
I’ll never forget our Armed Forces and the civilians who supported them.
Son - Op. Iraq Freedom
Son-in-Law - Kosovo and Desert Storm
Father - CWS - WW2
Father-in-Law - Saipan, Tinian, Eniwetok, and Iwo
Mother - Dept. of the Army, WW2
MadMax, still in for the fight for the remainder of my life.
I like Church - We will never surrender, never give in, never stop fighting.
Ping.
Both of my grandfathers served in WWI and my father and both uncles in WWII (one uncle was a P-51 pilot with three kills) and my younger brother and I served in combat in Vietnam. If more young men had volunteered and if our government had made the effort to win and the pro-enemy Leftists were handled (like prison for those who traveled to Hanoi during our war), we would have won our war and the South Vietnamese and maybe the North Vietnamese as well would be free today.
The Veterans of the Iraq War and the Afghan War are the courageous and self-sacrificing Americans of today and we honor them for their service, always.
Couldn’t have said it better myself, bro. I am still bitter about it, since I left Vietnam in 1971. Stay strong.
Bien Hoa Air Base, Republic of Vietnam
FReeper Jet Jaguar has the ‘active duty’ ping list, FReep him to be added.
Another “Welcome Home” to you, brother.
We still need to hear that from time to time.
Church, Kennedy, and Metzenbaum, with Biden as apprentice.
👍
If you are able, save for them a place inside of you.
And save one backward glance when you are leaving,
for the places they can no longer go.
Be not ashamed to say that you loved them,
though you may not have always.
Take what they have left and what they have taught you
with their dying and keep it your own.
And in a time, when men decide and feel safe
to call war insane, take one moment to embrace
those gentle heroes you left behind.
Written by Major Michael Davis O’Donnell, helicopter pilot; 1 January 1970,
Dak To, Vietnam; KIA on March 24, 1970 (originally MIA until 1978)
Beautiful, thanks!
I concur with your statement.
thx...
interesting: https://www.ambassadorkennethquinnarchive.org/media/cms/The_Khmer_Krahom_Program_to_Create__772B3E1D6BE91.pdf
I’m not a vet, but have family that are, and have always appreciated our military and what they did for us.
The way you veterans have been treated by the left is beyond despicable and does not reflect in the least how many of us really feel.
God bless you all. You are very loved and very appreciated.
Jan 11th 1971 I arrived in Frisco, my Pop was waiting outside the plane, spent a day with my brother and then we drove back to Texas.
I was with the 502.
Great to hear from you! Welcome Home, brother!!
We were back in the World.
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