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The Grunion mystery, solved at last
The American Legion ^ | MAR 19, 2010 | Matt Grills

Posted on 08/27/2019 10:49:11 AM PDT by robowombat

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1 posted on 08/27/2019 10:49:11 AM PDT by robowombat
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Sunk by her own torpedo.

Fired four at a Japanese destroyer. One ran low, two bounced off without exploding. The fourth circled back and took of her periscope.

(According to Wikipedia)


2 posted on 08/27/2019 10:50:44 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: robowombat; archy; kunsanhistorian; xzins; 2ndDivisionVet; SandRat; zot; HarleyLady27; ...

Robowombat - Thank you for posting this article about finding the wreck of the WW2 US submarine Grunion.

In memory of those who sail beneath the sea.


3 posted on 08/27/2019 11:05:30 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: archy; kunsanhistorian; xzins; 2ndDivisionVet; SandRat; zot; HarleyLady27; ...

And see this article robowombat also posted with photographs of the wreck of the USS Grunion:

https://www.livescience.com/66099-wwwii-grunion-submarine-found.html?utm_source=taboola&utm_medium=display&utm_campaign=organic


4 posted on 08/27/2019 11:08:35 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: BenLurkin

US Navy torpedos were super bad through about the first half of WWII, or even longer.

Many problems, and the Navy brass refused to believe numerous reports of malfunctions and misfires from captains in the fleet. Navy thought they weren’t trying hard enough.

Among other things, they had a tendency to cruse deeper than the depth they were set for, thereby missing targets by shooting underneath them. But that wasn’t the only problem.


5 posted on 08/27/2019 11:14:23 AM PDT by Steely Tom ([Seth Rich] == [the Democrat's John Dean])
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To: BenLurkin

https://www.wearethemighty.com/history/ww2-navy-torpedo-problems-mk14?rebelltitem=1#rebelltitem1


6 posted on 08/27/2019 11:20:42 AM PDT by CrazyIvan (The Democrat party. A collaboration of Cloward-Piven and Dunning-Kruger.)
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To: GreyFriar

Thank you for the ping and links. Much appreciated


7 posted on 08/27/2019 11:33:33 AM PDT by hoosiermama (When you open your heart to patriotism, there is no room for prejudice.DJT)
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To: robowombat

US torpedoes were very prone to malfunction of hitting their targets and not exploding or running wild and the technical problems were not solved till 1944....Japanese torpedoes were the best in the world.


8 posted on 08/27/2019 12:19:52 PM PDT by dpetty121263
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Japanese surface action tactics were built around their torpedoes not their guns!


9 posted on 08/27/2019 12:21:05 PM PDT by Reily
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That was because the IJN was willing to expend lots of torpedo’s in test firings at various size target hulks, different ranges etc. to perfect the weapon. The U.S.,on the other hand, was very reluctant to waste expensive torpedoes for testing.


10 posted on 08/27/2019 12:31:56 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: robowombat; All

The poorly-written article raised more questions, so I ultimately found this

https://www.quartoknows.com/blog/quartodrives/hidden-warships-the-uss-grunion-submarine


11 posted on 08/27/2019 12:36:01 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: BenLurkin

I “NEVER” reference wikiliberal.

Just sayin’.


12 posted on 08/27/2019 12:37:07 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: CrazyIvan

Legendary Commander Charles B. “Swede” Momsen is credited for fighting the true enemy at home those years: Bureaucracy.

Some things never change.


13 posted on 08/27/2019 12:55:46 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: dpetty121263
This is the first time I've ever heard this.

EVERY WW2 movie always indicates successful torpedoes .... some miss, but the ones that hit explode.

14 posted on 08/27/2019 12:55:59 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true, I have no proof, but they're true..)
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To: robowombat

Why did we name a U.S. Navy sub after a fish that beaches itself to spawn and deliver its eggs?


15 posted on 08/27/2019 1:00:50 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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To: GreyFriar

“On Eternal Patrol”


16 posted on 08/27/2019 1:04:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Joe Boucher

We were building a LOT of submarines, and they all had to be named after some type of fish.


17 posted on 08/27/2019 1:22:21 PM PDT by jimtorr
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That was the Navy scheme for naming ships in those days.
Battleships after states, hence West Virginia, Iowa, Heavy cruisers after large cities such as Los Angeles, Baltimore, subs after fish, Tang, Tautog, Grunion. Aircraft carriers were originally named after Revolutionary war ships or battles such as Yorktown, Saratoga, Bonhomme Richard.
Each of the many types of ships in the Navy had their own naming criteria.


18 posted on 08/27/2019 3:17:44 PM PDT by Bull Snipe
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To: jimtorr

As a. Kid i went with my folks up to Ventura County in the middle of the night and captured a 5 gallon bucket full
Back then you could drink beer, have bonfires and sleep on the beach
Certain it is not that way today
Even back then the LA. County sheriffs were no fun


19 posted on 08/27/2019 3:39:08 PM PDT by Joe Boucher ( Molon Labe' baby, Molon Labe)
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What an incredible story of collecting from all across the nation and even part of the world. Remarkable that one son had the resources to mount such an expedition.


20 posted on 08/27/2019 11:05:23 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (We are governed by the consent of the governed and we are fools for allowing it.)
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