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1 posted on 04/10/2014 12:22:17 PM PDT by YoungAmericanConservative1989
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The first Marine to have his pay cut is this guy.


2 posted on 04/10/2014 12:26:57 PM PDT by MeganC (Support Matt Bevin to oust Mitch McConnell! https://mattbevin.com/)
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To: YoungAmericanConservative1989

Huh?


3 posted on 04/10/2014 12:27:55 PM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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His point being - we don’t do it for the money.

I always saw the Marines as rather like a monastic order. Most aren’t going into it for the money - and in some ways increased poverty focuses one on the other reasons for service.


4 posted on 04/10/2014 12:28:19 PM PDT by PGR88
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Welcome to FR...


5 posted on 04/10/2014 12:28:28 PM PDT by null and void (The British declared war on the Tea Party. The Tea Party won! (Thanks mom!))
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Yeah, look what denying leave did for one of them.


6 posted on 04/10/2014 12:28:40 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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What does he care, he’s on his last billet before retirement.


7 posted on 04/10/2014 12:30:30 PM PDT by AU72
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Agree and not agree.
The marine will be OK, but his family is already struggling to survive. If his wife and children are having problems making ends meet it will affect his morale and his effectiveness at doing his job.


8 posted on 04/10/2014 12:30:56 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Freedom isn't free; nor is it easy. END ALL TOTALITARIAN ACTIVITY NOW.)
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America’s military families on food stamps is a great summation of the Obama regime


10 posted on 04/10/2014 12:32:03 PM PDT by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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The Sgt. Major of the Marines is APPOINTED by the Commandant.


11 posted on 04/10/2014 12:34:14 PM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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Im not going to say I agree with it, but this is hardly a new theory.

Higher pay allows them to take care of their families better, if they have them; it allows them more luxuries..some good, some bad; and allows them more opportunity to get into trouble.

For people who do things out of duty, or as volunteers, frequent monetary rewards can lead to *less* volunteerism, and *less* devotion to duty. A significant part of military performance is the sense of community, a sense of pride, a fulfillment of responsibility. Money used to replace those things may or may not be an improvement. expectations matter as well.

In short, it’s a more complicated question than implied.


15 posted on 04/10/2014 12:48:15 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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If I was the Commandant of the Marine Corps, I would fire him on the spot. I could have no trust or confidence in his leadership ability after a comment like that.


17 posted on 04/10/2014 12:49:28 PM PDT by armydawg505
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The SGM is a douche. Watch the good Marines leave the service.


18 posted on 04/10/2014 12:49:29 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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Well the Commandant is not thought very highly of but you would be hard pressed to find a Marine who would admit that in public.


19 posted on 04/10/2014 12:50:12 PM PDT by BBell (The Blue Dog is Stupid)
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Lessee: we have been forced to accept married individuals as first-term enlistees and we have allowed those already in to get married - including those young Marines who marry previously married women with kids. Then we deploy those Marines for six months or more at a time while leaving the families to fend for themselves.

So does the Sergeant Major of the Marine Corps understand what this would do to these Marines' families? His comments indicate his unfitness for service.

No doubt "dimwit" Hagel approved of his comments, but they were made at the expense of the men and women he was supposed to support.

If we had a real Commandant - not a Rahm Emanuel appointee - he'd fire this dimwit.

24 posted on 04/10/2014 12:55:17 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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He supports a military that I have supported all my life, I even preferred the old wooden barracks and didn’t approve of the concrete, two man rooms and luxurious living.

I think the military should be like the Legion, barebones and low pay, like it used to be when a first term GI could barely afford to buy smokes and drink at the EM club, and live in the barracks.

Once a man reenlists, or attains Corporal rank, THEN the money and the treats and the rewards starts kicking in, THEN they can start appealing for permission to marry, etc.


27 posted on 04/10/2014 12:57:54 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Libertarianism offers the transitory concepts and dialogue to move from conservatism, to liberalism)
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He’s a YES Man, remember the former guy didn’t want to implement gays into the marines so Obama got rid of him.

I will always honor the marines (and their history), but the leadership of this military under Obama boarders on treacherous.


32 posted on 04/10/2014 1:13:08 PM PDT by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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Says the 30 year lifer E-9 that has a hefty life-long pension wrapped up.


33 posted on 04/10/2014 1:16:34 PM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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If they have less money, they’ll drink less beer, stay more sober and get meaner?


37 posted on 04/10/2014 1:24:18 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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Can someone tell me how much shelter, food, cloths, benefits etc are worth?

It's hard to understand how the pay relates to civilian jobs where housing, etc are out of pocket.

40 posted on 04/10/2014 1:26:34 PM PDT by freerepublicchat
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Who is he representing, the president of the troops he is supposed to stand up for?

For far too long guys in these type of positions are appointed because of their political prowess and ability to be professional boot lickers and yes men.

44 posted on 04/10/2014 1:28:27 PM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Who but a TYRANT shoves down another man's throat what he has exempted himself from?)
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