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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - The British Valentine Tank Feb. 14, 2006
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Posted on 02/13/2006 8:35:48 PM PST by alfa6



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THE VALENTINE TANK



Based on the A10 Cruiser tank, the Valentine was privately designed by the Vickers-Armstrong corporation (hence its lack of an "A" designation) and was submitted to the War Office on February 14, 1938. Like many other projects, the Valentine was rushed into production following the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk.

Several versions exist concerning the source of the name Valentine. The most popular one says that the design was presented to the War Office at St. Valentine's Day (February 14). Some sources, however, claim that the exact date the design was submitted was February 10. According to other version, the tank was called Valentine in honor of Sir John Valentine Carden, the man who led the development of the A10 and many other Vickers vehicles. Yet another version says that Valentine is an acronym for Vickers-Armstrong Ltd Elswick & Newcastle-upon-Tyne.



The War Office was initially deterred by the size of the turret and the crew compartment. However, concerned by the situation in Europe, it finally approved the design in April 1939. The vehicle reached trials in May 1940, which coincided with the loss of nearly all of Britain's equipment during the evacuation at Dunkirk. The trials were successfull and the vehicle was rushed into production as Infantry Tank III Valentine.

The Valentine remained in production until April 1944, becoming Britain's most mass produced tank during the war with 6855 units manufactured in the UK (by Vickers, Metropolitan-Cammell Carriage and Wagon and Birmingham Railway Carriage and Wagon) and further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training).



The Valentine was Britain's most mass produced tank during the war, having manufactured 6855 and a further 1420 in Canada. They were the Commonwealth's main export to the Soviet Union under the Lend-lease Act, with 2394 of the British models being sent and 1388 of the Canadian (the remaining 30 were kept for training). In Soviet service, they were quite popular due to their small size, reliability, and generally good armour protection. In Soviet service, the Valentine was used from the Battle of Moscow until the end of the war. It was employed mostly on the southern fronts, both because of the proximity to the Persian supply route and in order to avoid using the tank in very cold climate. Although criticized for its speed and its weak gun, the Valentine was liked due to its small size, reliability and generally good armour protection.

The Valentine was something of an oddity, having the weight and size of a cruiser tank, but the armour and speed of an infantry tank. Though its armour was still weaker than the Matilda and, due to its weaker engine, it shared the same top speed, its high reliability and lower cost kept it in the war.



By 1944, in the European Theater of Operations the Valentine was almost competely replaced in the frontline units by the Churchill and the US-made Sherman. In the Pacific the tank was employed in limited numbers at least until May 1945.

There were 12 variants of the Valentine as follows:



Valentine I (350)
The first model of the Valentine, it was not sent out due to problems from rushed production. It was equipped with a 2 pdr. gun and a coaxial machine gun. Its cramped turret forced the commander to also act as the guns loader. It used a 135 hp gasoline engine.

Valentine II (700)
This model used a 131 hp diesel engine in order to increase its range. It first saw combat during Operation Crusader, at which point it began to replace the Matilda.

Valentine III
A larger turret was installed, allowing the addition of a dedicated loader to ease the duties of the commander.

Valentine IV
A II using an American 138hp GMC diesel engine. Though it had slightly lower range, it was more silent and reliable.

Valentine V
Valentine III with the American GMC engine.



Valentine VI
A Valentine built solely in Canada. It used a cast hull and a Browning machine gun in place of the Besa.

Valentine VII
Improved version of the VI- it had jettisonable fuel tanks, new tracks and an expanded turret similar to the III. Also built only in Canada.

Valentine VIII
A III upgraded with the QF 6 pdr gun. In order to fit it, the coaxial machine gun and the loader crewmember had to be removed. The side armour was made thinner to reduce weight.

Valentine IX
A V upgraded to the 6 pdr. gun. Similar reductions as the VIII.

Valentine X
A new turret design and better 165hp GMC engine. A coaxial machine gun could be fitted again. Also used welded construction.

Valentine XI
An X upgraded with the OQF 75mm gun. Only served as a command tank.



Valentine DD
Valentines fitted with Straussler's Duplex Drive. Used by crews in training for the Sherman DD's of the Normandy Landings.


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To: Professional Engineer

LOL, over and over again. Off and on.


Such a cutie. ;)


541 posted on 03/06/2006 12:35:17 PM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: bentfeather

Now there's an idea for my next hot flash! lol.


542 posted on 03/06/2006 5:33:53 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather

She's learning the joys of control.


Mwuhahahahaha


543 posted on 03/06/2006 6:00:05 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Hi there!

I agree with ya on the Texas Trivia. We could come up with lots better than that between you and me. :-)

and we wouldn't even have to mention my ancestors and your ancestor's and the bootleg likker up in Bosque and Somerville counties.


544 posted on 03/06/2006 6:20:16 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Professional Engineer

Howdy!

Bittygirl is definitely learning the wiley little art of wrapping daddy around the finger I think. ;-)


545 posted on 03/06/2006 6:21:28 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Wneighbor
Whaddya mean learning?
546 posted on 03/06/2006 6:25:02 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: Professional Engineer

She's been spending the entire last coupla years honing her methods. :-D


547 posted on 03/06/2006 6:29:35 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: w_over_w
Here ya go... I got pictures of the Alamo last weekend (again) but don't have them on this computer. However, here's the suspension bridge in Waco.

It's just a couple dozen miles downriver from me. Cept, I'm on the river that flows into the Brazos in Waco.

548 posted on 03/06/2006 6:34:30 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Wneighbor

ROFL


549 posted on 03/06/2006 6:37:43 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: w_over_w
And, this un here is the Dr Pepper Museum:

It's just down the street from the Suspension Bridge.

But.... one of the things that needed to be on the list was the Texas Rangers. "One riot, One Ranger." How could they leave out the Rangers?

550 posted on 03/06/2006 6:39:10 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Professional Engineer

It's a life long endeavor my friend. :-)


551 posted on 03/06/2006 6:39:58 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Wneighbor

Is that Flat Frodo?


552 posted on 03/06/2006 6:40:56 PM PST by Professional Engineer (Ground Zero - microscopic and colossal at the same time.)
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To: snippy_about_it; Professional Engineer; Peanut Gallery; SAMWolf; All

Okay, so here's some trivial things about the Texas Revolution that folks outside Texas may not know about:

Please forgive me - cause I don't have all the facts perfect on the top of my head and I'm not a great history writer. I just love the topic.

The Mexican General Cos moved over into the San Antonio de Bexar area in the fall of 1835 trying to fortify the area about us rebelling peasants and such. General Cos was representative of the new Centralist Mexican government which was at odds with the Mexican Federalists (I think) who had first encouraged settlement from the United States into Texas.

It was this change in government which caused Texans both Mexican and Anglo to revolt against Mexico. Texas had been settled by both Mexicans and Americans because of (A) lower land prices than the U.S. and (B) no taxation. The Centralist government came into power in 1834 (I think). The Centralists abolished representation within the nation government from the territories AND they imposed a land tax on the lands in the territories.

Bingo - we have taxation without representation.

Lots of folks think of the Texas Revolution as a battle between Americans and Mexicans. But, in reality there were many many Mexican settlers here too. THEY didn't like taxation without representation any more than the American settlers did.

So, General Cos moved into San Antonio in October of 1835 and he chose the Mission San Antonio de Valero aka THE ALAMO as his fortification. He defended the Alamo before the Texans.

Texans began to gather about San Antonio throughout the next month to try and defeat General Cos and take San Antonio. On December 4 and 5 the Battle of Bexar was fought where the Texas revolutionaries defeated General Cos and TOOK the Alamo from the Mexican army.

The Texans then began to fortify the Alamo expecting Santa Anna to send up another army in late spring. The Texans never expected Santa Anna to leave Mexico City himself and they never expected him to retaliate swiftly.

But, we wounded his pride I suppose. And thence, Santa Anna the president of Mexico left Mexico City himself at the head of an army of 6000 to bring vengence upon the upstarts who'd defeated his General Cos.

The Texan defenders never expected Santa Anna to send that large of an army nor did they expect him to involve himself personally in the battle. But it is from this defeat of the Mexican army in the Battle of Bexar that such a large Mexican force was at the Alamo.

Forgive me if the Foxhole has already covered this topic and please forgive my own words and faulty memory over little stuff. But, ya know, we did just celebrate Independance Day here and it's on my mind.


553 posted on 03/06/2006 7:02:27 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Professional Engineer

yeah. you spotted him. that's why i had the pictures handy. LOL


554 posted on 03/06/2006 7:03:44 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: Wneighbor

Thank you Wneighbor. I know that it wasn't until I watched the latest movie that I learned and began to admire Juan Seguin. I thought the movie did justice in explaining the fact that it was both Mexicans and Texans fighting against Santa Ana.


555 posted on 03/06/2006 7:15:14 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Iris7; Valin; PAR35; alfa6; U S Army EOD; Peanut Gallery; USMCBOMBGUY; ...
Evening Grace Folks~

Zion National Park, Utah

Utah Facts and Trivia

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3. Utah is the site of the nations first department store. Zions Co-operative Mercantile Institution was established in the late 1800's. It is still in operation today as ZCMI.

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18. During World War II Alta ski center became involved in the war effort when paratroopers from the 10th Mountain Regiment trained on its slopes.

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36. Kanab is known as Utah's Little Hollywood because of the large number of motion pictures that are filmed in the area.

37. Kaysville became a city on March 15, 1868 the first city to be incorporated in Davis County.

38. La Verkin at the entrance to Zion National Park is a beautiful valley and is called the "Garden Spot of Dixie".

39. Beaver is the birthplace of two very famous individuals of the past, Philo T. Farnsworth, the inventor of television and Butch Cassidy, the notorious western outlaw.

40. Utah is the only state whose capital's name is made of three words. All three words in Salt Lake City have four letters each.

41. Utah was acquired by the United States in 1848 in the treaty ending the Mexico War.

42. Utah has 11,000 miles of fishing streams and 147,000 acres of lakes and reservoirs.

43. The name "Utah" comes from the Native American "Ute" tribe and means people of the mountains.

44. Utah covers 84,900 square miles of land and is ranked 11th largest state in the United States.

45. The federal government owns 65% of the state's land.

46. The Great Salt Lake, which is about 75 miles long and 35 miles wide, covers more than a million acres.

47. The television series "Touched by an Angel" is filmed in Utah.

48. Utah has the highest literacy rate in the nation.

49. The largest public employer in Utah is the Utah State Government.

50. The Navajo Indians were referred to by the Apache as "Yuttahih" meaning "one that is higher up."

556 posted on 03/06/2006 7:21:24 PM PST by w_over_w (The more things change the more they stay the same. ~Bentfeather~)
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To: Candor7

Thank you for the information and email link. The rules of engagement are sadly lacking in our forces also. This was a horrible story but I was glad to see the quick response from the soldiers.


557 posted on 03/06/2006 7:23:22 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: w_over_w

Utah? We're still discussing Texas. lol. All I think about when I think about Utah is the Great Salt Lake and Mormons. Nothing else comes to mind.


558 posted on 03/06/2006 7:27:36 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

I hope my off-the-cuff stuff was okay. I just love the topic so much! One of my heart's desires would be to teach Texas History. LOL

When going through The Alamo you can't help but notice all the Hispanic surnames of those who died there. My trip last weekend was interesting because my daughter had brought a friend with her. The lady is from Germany and has only "seen the movie." She was pretty shocked when she found out what reverence there is for us Texans at the Alamo. But before it was all over, she was solemn also upon learning that 2 German immigrants also fought and died there. It was once again a new facet of history that I hadn't seen when I saw a glimmer of the dawning in that lady's face as to what the battle means to us. (as in ALL Americans - liberty, bloodshed for liberty)

I know, I'm rambling... but it almost struck me dumb to realize that here was a person who did not understand the significance of our bedrock tenet of freedom. And then I watched as she was trying to grasp a little of it. Amazing. God is good that we are Americans and have this country.


559 posted on 03/06/2006 7:28:01 PM PST by Wneighbor (I have come to race, NO RESTRICTOR PLATES!!!)
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To: snippy_about_it
Thank you . The Canadian Army has not been in a shooting war since Korea. The Ministry of Defence in Canada is still stuck in peace keeping mode, and "image making."

I think that many hundreds of e-mails went to the Prime Minister of Canada today.

I hope they let the Canadian troops do their work as soldiers rather than take a peace corps approach, that will kill many and cause them to be recalled quickly.

560 posted on 03/06/2006 7:34:29 PM PST by Candor7 (Into Liberal Flatulence Goes the Hope of the West)
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