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The Freeper Foxhole Enjoys an Almost Lazy Sunday- A B-24 Liberator Walk Around
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Posted on 09/03/2005 9:24:33 PM PDT by alfa6



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A B-24 Liberator Walk About




A Color, mostly, look at a B-24


Design of the B-24 was started in 1939 when the U.S.Army Air Corps started a request for a new bomber with performance better than the B-17. Consolidated Aircraft was awarded a contract on March 30, 1939 for the Consolidated Model 32. On December 29, 1939 the B-24 prototype took flight.



The B-24 was designed around the high lift Davis wing, an airfoil that was 20% more efficent than the contemporary airfoils that were in use at the time. Also notable on the B-24 was the first use of the tri-cycle landing gear on a heavy bomber and the unique roll-up bomb bay doors. The oval shaped engine cowlings were necessitated by the placement of the turbosuperchargers.



Of the first 7 YB-40s 6 were sent to Great Britian under the designation LB-30A. The British found that they were not suitable for combat operations due to the lack of self sealing fuel tanks and turbosuperchargers. The 6 aircraft ended up be used as transports in the Trans-Atlantic Return ferry Service.



Like the earlier B-17 the B-24 was subjected to a number of modifications. Two of which stand out are the C-87 cargo version and the C-109 flying tanker version. Winston Churchill had a specially outfitted C-87 as his personal aircraft.



18,188 B-24s were produced by the end of WW-II and the B-24 soldiered on till 1953 with the United States Air Force. The B-24 was produced not only by Consolidated Aircraft but by Ford at the Willow Run plant, were 6,600 were built. Other producers of the B-24 were North American Aviation at the Dallas plant and Douglas had a plant in Tulsa Oklahoma as well.



Currently out of the over 18,000 B-24s produced there are only three flyable B-24s in existence. There are two B-24Js and an LB-30 that are still flyable. As an interesting side note the Indian Air Force flew the B-24 untill 1968 and this is the source of the two remaing flyable "J" models.



What follows will be a short walk around and a few interior views of a B-24.






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To: alfa6

WOW! Someone stuck a B-17 Nose on a B-24!


41 posted on 09/04/2005 2:17:01 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Threw jelly at cop; conviction: carrying congealed weapon)
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To: SAMWolf; Professional Engineer
WOW! Someone stuck a B-17 Nose on a B-24!

I wonder how this "adaptation" handled in the air? The later model B-24s with the Emerson Tail turret that had been grafted onto the nose were known for wallowing about. Also I read somewhere that the nose turrets caused a small decrease in performance.

In looking at a few websites I did not see anything to confirm the above views but I will admit to not looking very hard.

Back to work I must go, got a few small projects to get wrapped up this weekend.

Regards

alfa6 ;>}

42 posted on 09/04/2005 2:31:03 PM PDT by alfa6 (BLOAT)
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43 posted on 09/04/2005 4:11:31 PM PDT by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub (Have you said Thank You to a service man or woman today?)
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To: alfa6
Beautiful thread today alfa6, great pictures. Whatdaya mean almost lazy...I was lazy. :-)
44 posted on 09/04/2005 9:10:18 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

Good evening EGC.


45 posted on 09/04/2005 9:11:22 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA

Good evening Gail.


46 posted on 09/04/2005 9:12:34 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather

Good evening feather.


47 posted on 09/04/2005 9:14:43 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
Mr. Howell, or the Professor?

Oh boy, what a choice. I'd have to get off the island.

48 posted on 09/04/2005 9:17:42 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
Sounds like another subject for a thread.

And you'll start working on them soon right. :-)

Those are good ideas. Ya'll keep 'em coming.

49 posted on 09/04/2005 9:18:59 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Good evening PE.


50 posted on 09/04/2005 9:19:18 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Howdy ma'am.

BTW, the coconut radio might get you off the island. A burnt $100 bill won't help much.


51 posted on 09/04/2005 9:22:11 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (As an Engineer, you too can learn to calculate the power of the Dark Side.)
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To: Professional Engineer

That's true, the money would do no good.


52 posted on 09/04/2005 11:15:13 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
Howdy, Valin,

Never really thought to research the subject, looks pretty hard to get at. I have just seen a few sentences here and there on the Pacific War, and a little more on Europe. Okumiya talks about "long range four engine bombers" being the real intelligence problem for the Japanese, and as I recollect B17s were rare in the Pacific in the later years of the war. Not long enough range and needed in Europe.

Mostly I have read some and deduced a little of electronic intelligence aircraft methods and tactics, and can sometimes "fill in the gaps" in otherwise incomplete accounts. Stories here and there, then connect the dots.
53 posted on 09/05/2005 12:44:24 AM PDT by Iris7 ("A pig's gotta fly." - Porco Rosso)
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To: alfa6

I know this thread is very old but if someone is very familiar with the structure of the B-24 airframe can they please send a message to me? I am building a cross sectional display model of this plane and could use some help understanding certain parts of the inside details.


54 posted on 12/24/2014 7:49:51 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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