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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - The T-44 Medium Tank - June 21st, 2005
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Posted on 06/20/2005 10:40:33 PM PDT by SAMWolf



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Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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The T-44 Medium Tank



The T-44 medium tank wasn't in large-scale production like the T-26 or so widespread in use like the T-34, also it wasn't the main battle tank for the post-war period like the T-54/55, but it took a worthy place in the history of Soviet tank development.

From the end of 1943 on, work on the new project T-44 started from the design bureau of the factory #183 (Chief engineer A.A.Morozov). Of course many elements of the famous T-34 were used for the new T-44 tank, but simultaneously two another tanks influenced the T-44 design: the T-34M and the T-43.


The prototype of the T-44.


The new project "Object 136" was undertaken by Morozov's design bureau. Later, this tank did receive the T-44 designation. Besides torsion bar suspension and perpendicular engine layout there were some other technical inventions applied.

Had these features been applied on several different vehicles separately, they had not been so effective. The revolutionary design of the T-44 has defined the whole Soviet tank development for the next several decades.

The height of the engine compartment was lowered by relocating the air-filter. By the way, the V-44 engine was equipped with an improved fuel system thus it's power was increased from 500 to 520 h.p.

Besides this, the tank had an improved cooling system, a new 5-speed gearbox and side clutches taken from the T-34. It had a new turret fitted with the ZIS-S-53 gun. The turret was relocated from the front to the center of vehicle, making shooting more accurate. The frontal armor was increased to 120 mm.


The prototype of the T-44 and the captured Panther after the comparative trials.


To increase the strength of the hull's frontal armor (glacis), the driver's hatch was relocated from the frontal plate to the roof and the bow machine-gun was completely removed. The T-44-85 prototype had a distance between the first and the second road wheel, on production T-44's between the second and the third road wheel. In 1944, the tank successfully passed all trials and was accepted for service.

The T-44 was mass produced by the factory #75 in Kharkov. From the end of 1944 through 1945, 965 tanks were manufactured. The T-44 didn't take part in any battle of the Second World War because the Red Army was not ready to accept a new tank; In case of lack of sufficient supplies, inexperienced tankcrews and technical specialists, who could repair and maintain the new tanks.


The T-44-85. The third prototype of the T-44 during trials at Kubinka. On this vehicle, the driver's hatch was moved entirely to the top of the hull roof. Summer 1944.


The end of the war was close, our army was successfully advancing, so the Soviet High Command delayed introduction of the T-44; but known, that three tanks were added to the "Special Tank Company #100" and tested on the Eastern Front.

The production tank was preceded by several prototypes: the T-44-85 armed with the 85 mm D-5T gun (build before the ZIS-S-53 was accepted) and the T-44-122 armed with the 122 mm D-25T gun. After the tests it became clear that 122 mm guns were not for medium tanks, rather for heavy ones.


The prototype of the T-44.


In 1945, a new turret was developed to accept a 100 mm D-10T gun or an LB-1 (abbreviation "LB" means Lavrenty Beria). Over the loader's hatch a 12.7 mm DShK AAMG was installed. The sides and chassis of the T-44 were protected with 6 mm anti-HEAT skirts.

In 1946, after the introduction of the T-54, which was the "direct descendant", the further development of the T-44 was canceled, though it remained in service. It was in mass production until 1947. In 1961 the main parts of the T-44 (engine, transmission, chassis, etc.) were unified with the T-54, and in 1966 the T-44 was equipped with a gun stabilizer.


The T-44-100 experimental tank


The modernised T-44M and T-44S served in the Soviet Army up to the end of 1970's. There were many vehicles which were based on the T-44M: artillery and tank tractors, engineer tanks, etc.

Also, it went down in history of Soviet tank development as the predecessor of a large family of T-54/55 and T-62 main battle tanks as well as... movie actor! It played a T-34's role in the movie "Soldier's father" and played even a Tiger's role in the movie "Act by situation".


The T-44 in the Tiger's "skin".


The T-44-122 Experimental Tank


The third prototype T-44-2 was armed with the 122 mm Tank Gun D-25-44T. This gun was very similar to its basic model D-25 but distinguished itself with some minor details.


The T-44-122 armed with the 122 mm D-25-44T and the second prototype T-44 armed with the 85 mm D-5T. Comparative trials.


The only new feature that was included was: the gun used cartridge loading shots instead of separate loading. Expecting that cartridge loading would increase the rate of fire. The first trials were in February-March 1944 but were unsuccessful due to gun failure. The gun was returned to the factory #9 for repair and improvement of the revealed drawback.

In April-May 1944 the trials were resumed, however the practical ROF didn't increase and still remained 2-3 shots per minute. The tank's turret was too cramped to operate with such long and heavy ammunition and besides the T-44-2 had limited ammunition stowage - only 24 rounds, being insufficient for a medium tank. After it was realized, trials were stopped all further work was cancelled.

Specs Data
Crew, men 4
Weight, kg 31 800
Length, m 7.65
Width, m 3.18
Height, m 2.41
Armament 1 x 85 mm ZIS-S-53,
2 x 7.62 mm DTM TMG
Ammo 85 mm: 58 shells
7.62 mm: 1890 rounds
Engine V-44, 12-cylinder diesel, 520 h.p.
Range, km 300
Max. speed, km/h 51




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1732 Martha Washington 1st, 1st lady
1774 Daniel D Tompkins (D-R), 6th US vice-president (1817-25)
1817 James Brewerton Ricketts, Bvt Major General (Union Army), died in 1887
1818 Joseph Abel Haskin, Brig General (Union volunteers), died in 1874
1823 Edward Elmer Potter, Bvt Mjr General (Union volunteers), died in 1889
1839 John Decatur Barry, Brig General (Confederate Army), died in 1867
1851 Daniel Carter Beard US, organized 1st boy scout troop
1882 Rockwell Kent artist/painter/illustrator (Canterbury Tales)
1884 Field Marshal Sir Claude Auchinleck (8th Army)
1892 Reinhold Niebuhr US, theologian (Nature & Destiny of Man)
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1905 Jean-Paul Sartre France, philosopher/writer (Nobel 1964; declined)
1912 Mary McCarthy US, novelist (Group)
1921 Jane Russell Bemidji, MN, actress full-figured gal (The Outlaw)
1922 Judy Holliday NYC, comedienne/actress (Born Yesterday, Adam's Rib)
1925 Maureen Stapleton Troy NY, actress (All in the Family, Coccoon)
1927 Carl Stokes (Cleve-Mayor)
1928 V G Yershov, cosmonaut
1932 Lalo (Boris) Schifrin Buenos Aires Argentina, composer
1932 Ocie Lee "OC" Smith, US jazz singer (Little Green Apples)
1933 Bernie Kopell NYC, actor (Love Boat, Get Smart, That Girl)
1938 Ron Ely Hereford Tx, actor (Tarzan, Doc Savage)
1938 Dan Burton, (Rep-R-IN, 1983- )
1940 Joe Flaherty Pitts Pa, comedian (SCTV, Blue Monday)
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1944 "Crazy" Ray Davies singer/guitarist (The Kinks-Come Dancing)
1947 Meredith Baxter-Birney Ca, actr (Family Ties, Bridget loves Bernie)
1947 Michael Gross Chicago Ill, actor (Family Ties, Tremors)
1953 Benazir Bhutto 1st female leader of a Moslem nation (Pakistan)
1964 Kari Kennell Colorado Springs Co, playmate (Feb, 1988)
1967 Nicole Kidman, Honolulu Hawaii, actress (Dead Calm, Far and Away)
1982 Prince William of Wales Prince Chuck & Lady Di's baby



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0524 Chlodomir, king of the Franks (511-24), dies at about 28
1377 Edward III, king of England (1327-77), dies
1527 Niccol Machiavelli, Florentine statesman/author, dies at 57
1876 Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna Mexican general (took Alamo), dies at 82
1908 Nikolai A Rimski-Korssakov, Russian composer (Sheherazade), dies at 64
1944 Jan Bonekamp, Dutch resistance fighter/friend of Hannie Schaft, dies
1964 Andrew Goodman, US civil rights activist, murdered at 20
1964 James Chaney, US civil rights activist, murdered at 21
1964 Michael Schwerner, US civil rights activist, murder at 21
1965 Bernard M Baruch, pres advisor (termed "Cold War"), dies at 94
1970 Achmed Sukarno, 1st president of Indonesia (1945-67), dies at 68
1992 Li Xiannian, Chinese President (1983-88), dies
1992 Thomas Whitfield, gospel vocalist, dies of heart attack at 38
1994 Mark Robert Isfeld, combat Engineer, dies at 31
2003 Leon Uris (78), author dies "Exodus" (1958) and "Mila 18" (1960).


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1633 Galileo Galilei is forced by Inquisition to "abjure, curse, & detest" his Copernican heliocentric views
1684 MA Bay Colony's charter revoked
1768 1st US bachelor of medicine degree (Dr John Archer)


1788 US Constitution goes into effect as NH is 9th to ratify


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1854 The first Victoria Cross was awarded to Charles Lucas, an Irishman and mate aboard the HMS Hecla for conspicuous gallantry at Bomarsrund in the Baltic. The medal was made from metal from a cannon captured at Sebastopol.

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1879 F W Woolworth opens 1st store (failed almost immediately)
1887 Britain celebrates golden jubilee of Queen Victoria
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1921 U.S. Army Air Service pilots bombs and sinks the captured German battleship Ostfriesland
1923 Marcus Garvey sentenced to 5 years for using the mail to defraud
1930 Ruth hits 3 HRs as Yanks blow 6-0 lead in 7th & lose 15-7
1933 1st Great Lakes-to-Gulf of Mexico barge trip completed, New Orleans
1939 Doctors reveal Lou Gehrig has amyotrophic lateral sclerosis
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1945 USS Laffey survived horrific damage from attacks by 22 Japanese aircraft off Okinawa

1945 Japanese forces on Okinawa surrender to US during WW II

1946 Bill Veeck buys Indians for $2.2 million
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1948 Dr Peter Goldmark of CBS demonstrates "long playing record" Columbia commits to 33 1/3 rpm records, plans to phase out 78's
1949 H L Giclas discovers asteroid #1886 Lowell
1962 USAF Maj Robert M White takes X-15 to 75,190 m
1963 Pope Paul VI (Giovanni Battista Montini) succeeds John XXIII
1964 3 civil rights workers-Michael H Schwerner Andrew Goodman & James E Chaney-disappeared after release from a Mississippi jail
1964 Byron de la Beckwith arrested for murder of Medger Evers, found guilty 30 yr later
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1975 Soyuz 19 returns to Earth
1977 Former White House chief of staff HR Haldeman enters prison
1977 Menachem Begin (Likud), becomes Israel's 6th PM
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1982 Wash DC jury finds John Hinckley Jr innocent by insanity
1984 The United States reported that an explosion in mid-May at a Soviet navy supply depot 900 miles north of Moscow had apparently killed more than 200 people
1985 American, Brazilian & West German forensic pathologists confirm skeletal remains exhumed in Brazil were Nazi Dr Josef Mengele
1987 Mike Tyson sexually harasses a parking lot attendent

1989 Supreme Court rules ok to burn US flag as a political expression (Do I have the right to introduce them to my friend Mr. Stick?)

1990 25,000 die in Iranian Earthquake
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1990 US House of Reps vote 254-177 to stop US flag burning, doesn't pass.
1991 Islanders Denis Potvan & Michael Bossy inducted into NHL Hall of Fame
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2002 Scientist reported that an asteroid (2002 MN) the size of a soccer field whizzed by Earth on June 14 at a distance of 75,000 miles.

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Christian-Colombia : Sacred Heart Day [moveable feast]
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1639 Birth of Increase Mather, early American theologian. He published nearly 100 books, and is credited with helping end executions for witchcraft in colonial America.
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1821 The African Methodist Episcopal (AME) Zion Church was formally constituted in New York City. Nineteen clergymen were present, representing six African-American churches from New York City; Philadelphia; New Haven, CT and Newark, NJ.
1963 In Rome, Italian Cardinal Giovanni Battista Montini was elected Pope Paul VI, the 261st pontiff of the Catholic Church.
1968 Swiss Reformed theologian Karl Barth wrote in a letter: 'Faith in God's revelation has nothing to do with an ideology which glorifies the status quo.'

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Bank Robber Signs Name To Hold-Up Note

(AP) Winona, Minn. A Winona man is in jail today after allegedly leaving a signed note that he planned on robbing a bank with a teller before walking out the door.

Thomas Mason is being held on aggravated robbery and terroristic threat charges.

Police said a man walked into the bank on Saturday morning and handed the teller a note. In it he threatened to return with a weapon and kill everyone in the bank if he did not receive $1,000.

The note was signed Thomas Mason.

Police said bank employees then watched Mason leave and cross the street to a grocery store. Officers arrived and arrested Mason while he was drinking beer and scratching lottery tickets in a nearby alley.


(anyone think that alcohol and/or drugs were involved somewhere along the line?)


Thought for the day :
"Man's capacity for justice makes democracy possible, but man's inclination to injustice makes democracy necessary."


21 posted on 06/21/2005 5:49:38 AM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Nuttin wrong with 2 F-O-Gs, the more the merrier :-)

You probably didn't recognize it because it wasn't one of them newfangled flying devices, he he

Regards

alfa6 ;>}


22 posted on 06/21/2005 5:56:34 AM PDT by alfa6 (Two wrongs don't make a right, but two Wrights made an airplane!)
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To: stainlessbanner
3 per minute.
23 posted on 06/21/2005 6:39:21 AM PDT by vetvetdoug (Shiloh, Corinth, Iuka, Brices Crossroads, Harrisburg, Britton Lane, Holly Springs, Hatchie Bridge,)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; alfa6; Valin; radu; All

Morning everyone.

24 posted on 06/21/2005 6:51:07 AM PDT by Soaring Feather
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To: stainlessbanner
In fact, when I revisit the battlefields, I will consult you.

I'm flattered. Given your knowledge of the CW and love for Dixie, I better stay sharp with my studies if I'm going to meet that "tall order". Thanks again for your thoughts.

25 posted on 06/21/2005 7:47:33 AM PDT by w_over_w (Where can I buy a ball-cap with the bill sewn on the side? All mine are on the front.)
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To: w_over_w

Wonderful, wonderful, wonderful. We walked those very grounds and it brought us to tears on more than one occassion. Visiting these places is as close as we'll ever get to living it. From the history we learn we are able to see in our minds eye more than the grass, trees and bridges. We can see the battlefield. Thank you so much sweetie for sharing with us.

P.S. It was good to talk to you this morning but Sam was a phone hog! :-)


26 posted on 06/21/2005 10:16:07 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Thanks sweets . . . and I hope in four years I can meet your sis.

P.S. It was good to talk to you this morning but Sam was a phone hog!

ROFLOL! Usually, he wants to get back to running the store . . . so, I have to be thankful he was willing to hog the phone for my call. ;^)

27 posted on 06/21/2005 10:36:58 AM PDT by w_over_w (Where can I buy a ball-cap with the bill sewn on the side? All mine are on the front.)
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To: w_over_w

Thanks again for the pictures. I'm sure Antietam was a bittersweet visit, given how much blood was shed there.


28 posted on 06/21/2005 11:57:05 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: stainlessbanner

Mornin' sb. Good to see you.


29 posted on 06/21/2005 11:58:34 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Peanut Gallery

Thank you Mrs. PE. :-)


30 posted on 06/21/2005 11:59:12 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Hiya Sam and Snip. FReegards and happy Treadhead Tuesday to all.

It's kinda eerie to read Soviet Union threads. FSU was such a central part of my service and life up to the time it broke up, but today's kids know little of it.

31 posted on 06/21/2005 11:59:45 AM PDT by colorado tanker (The People Have Spoken)
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To: SAMWolf
The ration system severely limited the consumption of bread, sugar, and other foods. Officers with families had to share their rations among all the members. Bachelors had it slightly easier. Nevertheless, the feeling of hunger never went away.

Interesting insight into Stalinist Russia.

32 posted on 06/21/2005 12:55:18 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: colorado tanker
I'm sure Antietam was a bittersweet visit, given how much blood was shed there.

Indeed. Almost a repeat of Gettysburg . . . you just can't hold back when you realize where you are standing.

And thank you for your thoughts.

33 posted on 06/21/2005 1:08:34 PM PDT by w_over_w (Where can I buy a ball-cap with the bill sewn on the side? All mine are on the front.)
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To: SAMWolf

Excellent stories. I especially liked the "I didn't have a spoon" story, the one about the stolen potatoes. Imagine an old soldier without a spoon! Amazing. Just as important as a good can opener!

It has been a spell since I carried a spoon at all times myself. Food and water is so darn regular these days, never ever go hungry or thirsty except on purpose. Odd to think back on the old days, when you had to eat whenever the opportunity arose, but always eating only the best available!! I suppose I was just a hungry all the time kid.

Interesting looking at the transition from T-34 to T-55.


34 posted on 06/21/2005 1:38:06 PM PDT by Iris7 ("War means fighting, and fighting means killing." - Bedford Forrest)
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To: alfa6

Thanks alfa6.


35 posted on 06/21/2005 1:46:02 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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Medium Tank T-44 (Page 1 of 4)


A considerable number of the T-44 were converted to fixed fortifications when their useful 'tank'
role had ended. This usually involved the removal of the engine and gearbox, burying it up to the hull
top and covering the turret in concrete to give it a 'rock' appearance.


From October 1940, after the death of M.I. Koshkin, Aleksandr A. Morozov was appointed the Chief Designer of the Design Bureau.

At that time he was only 36 years old. When the war against the Nazi Germany broke out, the Design Bureau, together with the Plant, shifted to the town of Nizhny Tagil, in which tank production facilities were reestablished In October 1941, Aleksandr A. Morozov was appointed the Chief Designer of the Urals Tank Plant. In 1943, he was awarded the title of Hero of Socialist Labour for his outstanding achievements in arranging production, development and improvement of tanks.

The military insisted on enhancing the firepower of tanks, and the designers of the Design Bureau had to work hard to fulfil the requirement. Their efforts resulted in successful development of the T-34-85 tank,which was on a par with the new German heavy tanks as to their fighting capabilities. On 22 January 1945, Aleksandr A. Morozov was given the rank of Major General of Tank Engineer Corps by the Decision of the Council of People's Commissars of the USSR for his efforts in development and continual improvement of the T-34 tank.

Towards the end of the Second World War, the Design Bureau, headed by Aleksandr A. Morozov, developed the T-44 medium Tank, with the T-54 tank being developed in the post-war period. Aleksandr A Morozov was given State Awards for his participation in the development of the afore-mentioned tanks. On 13 November 1951, Aleksandr A. Morozov was ordered by the Minister to move to Kharkiv to work at his native plant. In Kharkiv, Morozov immediately started to work on development of a new, more capable tank. As early as October 1963, these efforts resulted in the T-64 tank which was decades in advance of any other vehicles existing elsewhere in the world at the time.

The T-64 became the basis for subsequent development of other tanks including the T-72, the T-80, etc.


Kharkiv Morozov training stand
A limited number of units will be available by Christmas through
an agreement between Hammacher Schlemmer and Rosoboronexport

36 posted on 06/21/2005 6:05:54 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

How big is your computer monitor? Some of the pictures don't display well for those of us with old, 17 inch monitors. For example, I have no idea what that 'training stand' would look like if I could see it all at once. Both it and the tank are 940 pixels wide. It would be more universally user friendly if the pictures were no larger than the old 640x480 format or at least 800 x 600, although most of us can handle larger larger displays now.


37 posted on 06/21/2005 7:28:43 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: PAR35
This is a 17-inch monitor. I resized certain images to width=940 with corresponding proportional height using HTML code. 940 displays here in toto.

For autoresizing Windows offers this useful information:

Learn How to Use Automatic Image Resizing

38 posted on 06/21/2005 8:29:08 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: w_over_w

For nearly 4 hours Union and Confederate infantry contested this sunken country road, resulting in over 5000 casualties.


1,700 KIA in 2+ YEARS in Iraq. Some people say this is too much. Some people need to get some perspective.





Great photos, thanks for sharing them


39 posted on 06/21/2005 9:13:53 PM PDT by Valin (The right to do something does not mean that doing it is right.)
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To: PhilDragoo

Thanks for the link, but for a long list of reasons, I generally don't use Internet Explorer. I can always shift my monitor display to 1024x768, but it generally does not display properly when I switch back to my usual resolution.


40 posted on 06/21/2005 10:15:01 PM PDT by PAR35
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