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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers the Lincoln County War(1878-1881) - Mar. 10th, 2005
Wild West Magazine | December 2004 | Mike Tower

Posted on 03/09/2005 10:15:25 PM PST by SAMWolf



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Bless those who mourn the lost.
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Uncovering Myths of the Lincoln County War


He was by Billy the Kid's side when Sheriff William Brady was killed and when Alexander McSween's house was set on fire, yet little else is known about the one-time 'Regulator.'

The Lincoln County War was a lawless episode in New Mexico history that is best remembered today for having triggered the legend of Billy the Kid. On April 1, 1878, during that bitter business feud, the Kid and other so-called Regulators killed Lincoln County Sheriff William Brady. New Mexico Territory Governor Lew Wallace never got around to giving Billy a pardon for killing Brady or for his other Lincoln County War escapades. After more than 120 years of media attention, interest in the Kid remains so high that the current governor of New Mexico has been considering giving Billy a posthumous pardon. But the Kid's story has been so romanticized that it has obscured the truth about the Lincoln County War. For years historians have been trying to sort out fact from fiction through a concerted effort to track down each individual prominent in the conflict, to determine what motivated them. One such character is Big Jim French, a figure whose shadowy past has spawned illusive tales by writers more intent on relating a good yarn than accurately describing history. It's high time some of those myths were put to rest, to clear up the often cloudy picture of that 1870s fracas.


Billy the Kid


An uncomplicated explanation of the Lincoln County War is that it was a feud involving two competing groups, termed "rings," intent on monopolizing trade, politics and vast stretches of land in New Mexico Territory. One ring, known as "the House," was a firmly entrenched local commercial empire, so named because most of its business dealings were conducted out of a store that resembled a house, and because the name appealed to the men operating its various nefarious enterprises. The House, besides holding a monopoly on domestic trade, often fulfilled beef contracts for the military through purchasing beef stolen by a band of outlaws known as "the boys," and used this gang as enforcers when necessary. By all accounts, the passel of Irishmen associated with the House--originally led by Lawrence G. Murphy--was as ruthless a band of brigands as ever existed in American commerce, as ready to terminate their detractors and competitors as they were to fleece customers.

Attempting to usurp the stranglehold of the House was John Henry Tunstall, a young man with cold, hard cash supplied by his father, a London businessman. By hook or crook, Tunstall was determined to be a success in America, and he came prepared with a bag of tricks that included a combination of Machiavellian tactics and pure capitalism. Tunstall was supported by an able captain, Alexander McSween, an attorney not overly concerned with business ethics and bent on making his own fortune. Through McSween, Tunstall met John Simpson Chisum, a legendary cattle baron with a finger in many pies, who was willing to invest in Tunstall's plans because they held the promise of securing the borders of his empire and ending the rustling that was cutting into his profits. The trio formed a loose association, wherein Tunstall would anchor the territory around Lincoln; Chisum would supply beef, funds, men and the force and integrity of his reputation; while McSween handled the legal affairs of the group. With the formation of this ring, the stage was set for a conflict, one that should have been waged on ledgers, but instead eroded into as bloody a fight as ever hit the Southwest.


Alexander McSween


In the opening gambits, the Tunstall-Chisum group opened a bank and store to compete with the House. These economic challengers worked out agreements with the small farmers and ranchers, contracting for all livestock feed raised in Lincoln County. Then agreements were reached with various settlers that would provide Tunstall control of water rights--which in desert country provided the holder sway over pasture for miles around. As capitalism was practiced in Europe, such tactics would not have caused a ripple. But in the American West, economic advantage was largely a matter of forcing one's will on another, and the House quickly realized the danger of Tunstall's schemes and organized a resistance. Tunstall naively expected the battles to be fought in court, as economic wars were waged in Europe and Eastern America. He never dreamed that when his business acumen began to ruin his opponent that Murphy's forces would react so aggressively. By underestimating their resolve and methods, Tunstall wound up dead--shot to death on February 18, 1878, by a sheriff's "posse" composed of outlaws and minions of the House sent to attach livestock as bond for a lawsuit.

Immediately after the posse had shot down Tunstall, Alexander McSween gathered around him a cadre of the toughest men he could find. Some were already on the Tunstall payroll, some were sent by Chisum and some joined because they had a grudge against the House--all were bad men to mess with. Among the group was a drifter known as Big Jim French.


John Simpson Chisum


Exactly why Big Jim was in New Mexico Territory and how he managed to get involved in the Lincoln County War has never been clearly understood, but the evidence points very strongly to happenstance. Old-timer Frank Coe, who fought in the war, said in the 1870s that French had been a drifter from Indian Territory (present-day Oklahoma) who had begun working for Chisum. Coe added that he suspected Chisum had sent French along with several others to support the McSween faction. No other participant ever made a statement to explain French's presence. Chisum was known to purchase cattle and horses throughout Indian Territory and Texas to fulfill contracts, and some writers have asserted that in December 1877, Tunstall went with Chisum to purchase horses that were to be delivered to Chisum and held until Tunstall was ready for them. If such a buying trip did happen, it's possible that French was one of the riders hired to escort the herd and that he gained temporary employment with Chisum before being sent to Lincoln. The theory is plausible and fits the timing of French's entry into Lincoln. As to why the man got involved in the fighting, old-timers have hinted that McSween hired men to protect himself and his family. As French's movements during the war can be traced by following the movements of the McSweens, it's probable that French began his career in Lincoln as one of those paid bodyguards. It has also been speculated that McSween offered a bounty for the elimination of the men responsible for Tunstall's death. This bounty and the need for revenge seem to be the reasons the self-styled Regulators began operating in the area. French attached himself to this group. The two killings he participated in during the war were both rumored to be assassinations based on the promised bounty offered by McSween. French was probably in the dangerous game simply for the money.


John Henry Tunstall


Florencio Chaves was a member of the Regulator posse that captured Frank Baker and Buck Morton, two of the men responsible for the murder of John Tunstall. After the posse captured the pair, according to Chaves, posse member Bill McCloskey aroused the ire and suspicion of several in the party because of his refusal to allow any harm to befall Baker and Morton. Chaves said that a plan was devised to kill McCloskey. It seems the Kid, Jim French and Fred Waite were riding ahead of the prisoners on March 9, 1878, while Doc Scurlock, McCloskey and Henry Brown were riding behind. Waite dropped back beside Scurlock and asked McCloskey, "How's the best way to kill those sons a bitches?" By insisting the pair be taken to the sheriff, McCloskey sealed his death warrant, because French immediately dropped back, placing his horse in McCloskey's path, effectively boxing him between Waite and Brown. Without a word, Brown pulled out his six-shooter and shot McCloskey, killing him instantly. The prisoners, according to Chaves, now knew for sure what was in store for them, so they tried to make a run for it and were shot to doll rags. Chaves' version makes more sense than the cover story that McCloskey was shot by the prisoners and Baker and Morton were shot trying to escape.




The second killing French participated in was a premeditated murder, for French and several others opened up from concealment, with Winchesters, on Sheriff Brady's party as it passed down the street of Lincoln on April Fool's Day. The excuse used to justify this act was that Brady was thought to be in cahoots with the House, and Deputy George Hindman was a part of the posse that had eliminated Tunstall less than two weeks earlier. During the fighting, Billy the Kid and French ran out to rifle the bodies of the victims, and each was wounded in the hip. French's injury was serious enough that he could not ride. He was given first aid by the Rev. Taylor F. Ealy. Clerk Sam Corbet, who had been one of Tunstall's staunchest supporters, then hid French beneath the floor of the Tunstall store while men searched the building.



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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer; alfa6; Wneighbor; The Mayor; Matthew Paul; ...

Good morning everyone!

21 posted on 03/10/2005 5:46:59 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: Professional Engineer

wouldna' used the term swabbie, but 'tis a good pic.


22 posted on 03/10/2005 6:01:19 AM PST by msdrby (Freedom, by its nature, must be chosen and defended by its citizens.)
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To: SAMWolf

On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on March 10:
1452 Ferdinand II the Catholic, King of Aragon/Sicily (expelled Jews)
1503 Ferdinand I German emperor (1558-64)
1538 Thomas Howard Duke of Norfolk; executed by Queen Elizabeth (1572)
1628 Constantine Huygens Jr Dutch poet/painter/cartoonist
1748 John Playfair Scotland, clergyman/geologist/mathematician
1809 William David Porter Commander (Union Navy), died in 1864
1818 George Wythe Randolph Secretary of War (Confederacy), died in 1867
1824 Major General Thomas J Churchill Confederate Army/Fought at Wilson's Creek, Red River
1832 William Henry Penrose Brigadier General (Union volunteers), died in 1903
1845 Alexander III [Romanov] Russian tsar (1881-94)
1888 Barry Fitzgerald Dublin Ireland, actor (Academy Award-Going My Way)
1891 Sam Jaffe New York NY, actor (Gunga Din, Ben Casey)
1903 Bix Beiderbecke jazz cornet player (In a Mist)
1908 Carl Albert US speaker of house (1971-77)
1916 James Herriot Scotland, writer (All Creatures Great & Small)
1923 Kenneth C "Jethro" Burns Conasauga TN, mandolinist/country singer (Homer & Jethro)
1923 Ara Parseghian football coach (Northwestern, Notre Dame)
1928 James Earl Ray assassin (Martin Luther King Jr)
1940 Chuck [Carlos Ray] Norris Ryan OK, martial arts actor (Walker Texas Ranger, Missing in Action)
1940 Dean Torrence Los Angeles CA, surf music singer (Jan & Dean-Little Old Lady from Pasadena)
1947 Avril "Kim" Campbell Canada's 1st female Prime Minister/19th Prime Minister (June 25,1993-November 4, 1993)
1947 Tom Scholz rock guitarist/keyboardist (Boston-More Than a Feeling)
1958 Sharon Stone Meadville PA, actress (Basic Instinct, Sliver, Casino)
1965 Rod Woodson NFL cornerback/kick returner (Pittsburgh Steelers, San Francisco 49ers)



Deaths which occurred on March 10:
0037 Tiberius Claudius Nero Roman emperor (14-37), dies at 78
0483 Simplicius Italian Pope (468-83), dies
1735 Dirk T van Cloon Dutch lawyer/Governor-General of E Indies, dies at about 46
1865 William Henry "Little Billy" Chase Whiting Confederate General-Major, dies at 48
1910 Karl Lueger Austrian anti-semite/mayor of Vienna, dies at 65
1913 Harriet Tubman abolitionist, conductor on Underground RR, dies in New York
1953 Charles Gordon Curtis inventor of (Curtis-steam turbine), dies at 92
1973 Sir Richard Sharples Governor of Bermuda, is assassinated
1980 Herman Tarnower doctor (Scarsdale Diet), killed by Jean Harris
1985 Konstantin Chernenko party leader/President of USSR (1984-85), dies at 73
1986 Ray Milland actor (Lost Weekend-Academy Award 1945), dies at 81
1988 Andy Gibb singer, dies in Oxford England of an inflammatory heart virus at 30
1993 David Gunn abortion doctor, killed by Michael Griffin at 47
1996 Lucius E Burch Jr US civil rights leader, dies at 84
1998 Lloyd Bridges, actor, died at 85 (Seahunt)


Reported: MISSING in ACTION

1966 TAYLOR JAMES L.---NITRO WV.
1966 XAVIER AUGUSTO MARIA---SAN JOSE CA.
1967 LUNA JOSE D.---ORANGE CA.
[03/04/73 RELEASED BY DRV, ALIVE 1999]
1969 LUNA CARTER P.---HAZELHURST MS.
1971 SMOOT CURTIS R.---VARNADO LA.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0515BC The building of the great Jewish temple in Jerusalem completed
0241 BC Battle of Aegusa: Roman fleet sinks 50 Carthagean ships
0418 Jews are excluded from public office in the Roman Empire
0483 St Simplicius ends his reign as Catholic Pope
1526 Emperor Charles V marries princess Isabella of Portugal
1535 Bishop Tomás de Berlanga discovers Galápagos Islands
1578 Queen Elizabeth I gives Johan Casimir £20,000 to aid Dutch rebellion
1624 England declares war on Spain
1629 King Charles I dissolved Parliament; he called it back 11 years later
1681 English Quaker William Penn receives charter from Charles II, making him sole proprietor of colonial American territory Pennsylvania
1734 Spanish army under Don Carlos (III) draws into Naples
1776 "Common Sense" by Thomas Paine was published
1791 John Stone, Concord MA, patents a pile driver
1791 Pope condemns France's Civil Constitution's treatment of the clergy
1849 Abraham Lincoln applies for a patent; only US President to do so
1862 US issues 1st paper money ($5, $10, $20, $50, $100, $500 & $1000)
1864 Red River campaign Louisiana
1865 Battle of Monroe's Crossroads, North Carolina
1874 Purdue University (Indiana) admits its 1st student
1876 1st telephone call made (Alexander Graham Bell to Thomas Watson)
1880 General Wolseley opens new legislative council in Pretoria
1880 Salvation Army of England sets up US welfare & religious activity
1888 Heavyweight Boxing champion John L Sullivan draws Charlie Mitchell in 30 rounds
1893 Ivory Coast becomes a French colony
1893 New Mexico State University cancels its 1st graduation ceremony, its only graduate Sam Steele was robbed & killed the night before
1896 After Bob Fitzsimmons KOs much larger Jim Corbett to win world HW championship he says, "The bigger they are, the harder they fall"
1902 Earthquake destroys Turkish city of Tochangri
1903 Harry Gammeter, Cleveland, patents multigraph duplicating machine
1906 Coal dust explosion kills 1,060 at Courrieres France
1910 China ends slavery
1910 Pittsburgh Courier, begins publishing
1913 William Knox, becomes 1st in American Bowling Congress to bowl 300
1914 Suffragettes in London damages painter Rokeby's Venus of Velasquez
1922 State of siege proclaimed during mine strike Johannesburg South Africa
1927 Albania mobilize by threat of Serbian, Croatian & Slovenes
1927 Bavaria lifts ban on Hitler's speeches
1931 British Labour party removes fascist sir Oswald Mosley
1933 Major earthquake in Long Beach CA
1933 Nevada becomes 1st US state to regulate narcotics
1941 Larry MacPhail, Dodger GM predicts all players will wear batting helmets
1945 Germany blows-up Wessel Bridge on Rhine
1945 Japan declares Vietnam Independence
1945 Patton's 3rd Army makes contact with Hodge's 1st Army
1945 Tokyo in fire after night time B-29 bombing
1945 US troops lands on Mindanao
1948 1st civilian to exceed speed of sound-Herb H Hoover, Edwards AFB California
1952 Military coup by General Fulgencio Batista in Cuba
1956 General strike in Cyprus protesting exile of archbishop Makarios
1956 Peter Twiss sets new world air record 1,132 mph (1,823 kph)
1957 Thousands of soccer fans riot in Italy
1959 Dorothy Comiskey Rigney, sells 54% of White Sox to Bill Veeck
1959 Uprising against Chinese occupation force in Lhasa Tibet
1960 USSR agrees to stop nuclear testing
1962 Due to it's no black policy, Phillies leave Jack Tar Harrison Hotel & move to Rocky Point Motel, 20 miles outside Clearwater FL
1963 Pete Rose debuts with hits in his two 1st at bats in spring training
1964 US reconnaissance plane shot down over East Germany
1966 5 time Horse of the Year, Kelso, retires
1966 North Vietnamese capture US Green Beret Camp at Ashau Valley
1969 James Earl Ray pleads guilty in murder of Martin Luther King Jr
1971 The Senate approved an amendment to lower the voting age to 18
1972 General Lon Nol becomes President & prince Sirik Matak premier of Cambodia
1972 USSR performs nuclear test at Eastern Kazakhstan/Semipalitinsk USSR
1975 "Rocky Horror Picture Show" opens at Belasco Theater NYC for 45 performances
1975 Dog spectacles patented in England
1977 Rings of Uranus discovered during occultation of SAO
1980 Willard Scott becomes the weather forecaster on the Today Show
1982 President Reagan proclaims economic sanctions against Libya
1982 Sygyzy: all 9 planets aligned on same side of Sun (We're all gonna die!)
1982 Travis Jackson & Happy Chandler elected to Hall of Fame
1983 Walter Alston, Dodgers manager, elected to Hall of Fame
1985 French socialists lose election (National Front 9%)
1985 World Ladies Figure Skating Championship in Tokyo won by Katarina Witt (German Democratic Republic)
1985 World Men's Figure Skating Championship in Tokyo won by Alexandr Fadeev (USSR)
1987 Vatican formal opposition to test-tube fertilization & embryo transfer
1991 Eddie Sutton is 1st NCAA coach to lead 4 schools into playoffs
1994 1 million Greeks attend Melina Mercouri's funeral
1995 Car bomb explodes in Karachi at shiite mosque, 17+ killed
1996 Birdwatchers noted the “act of raptor love” between two red-tailed hawks on the Hotel Carlyle at 2:30 p.m. in New York City. It lasted a full five seconds.
(Wamm Bamm Thank You Ma'am)
1997 The first Laos Int’l. Juggling Festival was held in Vientiane before a crowd of 40,000 as part of the annual That Luang Festival
2003 The European Union opens a new office in Cuba


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

Dominica, St Lucia : Independence Day (1967)
Laos : Teachers' Day
Swaziland : Commonwealth Day
World : World Culture Day (leap years)
New Mexico : Arbor Day (Friday)
US : Aardvark Week (Day 5)
National Furniture Refinishing Month


Religious Observances
Roman Catholic : Commemoration of the 40 Holy Martyrs of Sebaste, Armenia
Roman Catholic : Commemoration of St John Ogilvie, Scottish Jesuit


Religious History
1528 Martyrdom of Balthaser Hubmaier, 48, German reformer and chief writer for the Anabaptist movement. Arrested in Moravia, Hubmaier was later condemned at Vienna and burned at the stake.
1681 English Quaker William Penn, 26, received a charter from Charles II, making him sole proprietor of the colonial American territory known today as the state of Pennsylvania.
1748 [O.S.] Slave-ship Captain John Newton, 22, was converted to a saving Christian faith. Newton later became an Anglican clergyman, and (as the author of "Amazing Grace") a greatly respected hymnwriter as well.
1937 English historian Arnold J. Toynbee wrote: 'In this really very brief period of less than 2,000 years Christianity has, in fact, produced greater spiritual effects in the world than have been produced in a comparable space of time by any other spiritual movement that we know of in history.'
1987 The Vatican declared its formal opposition to test-tube fertilization, embryo transfer and most other forms of scientific interference in human procreation.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"Most people wish to serve God - but only in an advisory capacity."


23 posted on 03/10/2005 6:10:26 AM PST by Valin (DARE to be average!)
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Good morning everyone. Thanks for the article. A very good read. As I was reading it, the movie "Young Guns" came to mind. I was mentally comparing the two and think that even with a little bit of Hollywierd artistic license, they pretty much kept in line historically.

Cheers!


24 posted on 03/10/2005 6:29:01 AM PST by SZonian (Tagline???? I don't need no stinkin' tagline!)
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To: SAMWolf

I see you were up in the middle of the night. I'm not sore, you heaved most of them, you should be sleeping.


25 posted on 03/10/2005 8:30:16 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Aeronaut

Mornin' Aeronaut.


26 posted on 03/10/2005 8:31:09 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

Good morning EGC.


27 posted on 03/10/2005 8:31:27 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor

Good morning Mayor.


28 posted on 03/10/2005 8:32:38 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Good morning PE.


29 posted on 03/10/2005 8:33:36 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: alfa6

Good morning alfa6.


30 posted on 03/10/2005 8:34:18 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it; All
GM, snippy, et.al.!

free dixie HUGS,duckie/sw

31 posted on 03/10/2005 9:04:09 AM PST by stand watie (being a damnyankee is no better than being a racist. it is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: bentfeather
Good morning feather. We made the news today in the "big" newspaper this time, the Oregonian. Sam is scanning it so we can post it later.

Of course, much to my chagrin Sam is quoted as saying "sucked". LOL. Talking about birding being a hobby you can get sucked into. As soon as he said it while we were being interviewed I said, "Don't say sucked, it has such a bad connotation to it". Of course we are getting a big laugh out of it today showing up in print. Wait 'til his mom sees it! LOL.

32 posted on 03/10/2005 9:49:29 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Oh boy, The Sam and Snippy show has gone regional/international, vie the WEB!!

WOO HOO!!!


33 posted on 03/10/2005 10:02:43 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: bentfeather

Hi miss Feather


34 posted on 03/10/2005 10:21:29 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I believe in diversity, so I practice ethnic engineering.)
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To: msdrby
wouldna' used the term swabbie

Goin' muh way sailor?

35 posted on 03/10/2005 10:22:08 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I believe in diversity, so I practice ethnic engineering.)
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To: Valin
1940 Chuck [Carlos Ray] Norris Ryan OK, martial arts actor (Walker Texas Ranger, Missing in Action)

I didn't realize he's OLD!

From Military.com:

Chuck Norris
Actor, Martial Arts Champion

It comes as no surprise that Chuck Norris was named "Veteran of the Year" at the American Veteran awards show. Chuck Norris is famous as a world champion martial artist, and movie and television star. What many people don't know is that Norris is also very dedicated to the military community.

Carlos Ray "Chuck" Norris was born on March 10, 1940 in Ryan, Oklahoma. His mother was Irish-English and his father was Cherokee. Norris joined the Air Force after high school, with the goal of training in the Security Police in preparation for a career in law enforcement. It was in the Air Force, while stationed in Korea, that Chuck was introduced to martial arts. One night on duty, Norris realized that he couldn't arrest a rowdy drunk without pulling his weapon.

He studied Tang Soo Do and Tae Kwan Do, both Korean martial arts, and became the first Westerner to be awarded an eighth-degree Black Belt in Tae Kwan Do. He held the world middleweight karate champion title for six years, and was named Black Belt magazine's "Fighter of the Year" in 1969. He founded 32 martial arts schools, and was actor Steve McQueen's karate teacher.

It was McQueen who encouraged Norris to go into acting. Norris has starred in such films as "Good Guys Wear Black," "Delta Force" and "Missing in Action." He currently stars in the popular TV series "Walker, Texas Ranger."

Norris has used his success to give back to the military community. He has been a spokesman on behalf of the Veteran's Administration and hospitalized veterans. In 1990 he created the "Kick Drugs out of America" Foundation.

36 posted on 03/10/2005 10:28:44 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I believe in diversity, so I practice ethnic engineering.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Hello, hello Professional Engineer!
37 posted on 03/10/2005 10:29:37 AM PST by Soaring Feather
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To: snippy_about_it

Howdy ma'am.


Staying busy? (ducking now)


38 posted on 03/10/2005 10:34:53 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I believe in diversity, so I practice ethnic engineering.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Of course, much to my chagrin Sam is quoted as saying "sucked".

I'll have to put this on my do not say while being interviewed list. LOL

39 posted on 03/10/2005 10:37:03 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I believe in diversity, so I practice ethnic engineering.)
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To: bentfeather

ROFLOL. Very cute.


40 posted on 03/10/2005 10:37:40 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I believe in diversity, so I practice ethnic engineering.)
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