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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles Robert Rogers and Roger's Rangers - Nov. 29th, 2004
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Posted on 11/28/2004 9:41:12 PM PST by SAMWolf

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Robert Rogers (1731-1795)
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Robert Rogers was a popularly acclaimed military leader during the French and Indian War, who institutionalized many frontier-style practices of warfare and whose forces are regarded by some as the model for later ranger activities.
Rogers was born in Methuen, Massachusetts, but spent his formative years on the frontier in New Hampshire. He served briefly as a scout in King Georges War, but made his mark later in the final North American conflict between France and Britain. In 1756, Rogers formed a group that came to be known as Rogers Rangers a 600-man contingent of green-clad frontiersmen who had been personally recruited by the charismatic leader. Rogers was not the originator of many of the fighting tactics he popularized, but he did systematize the process. In Rogers Ranging Rules, he set down more than two dozen no-nonsense rules for frontier warfare. He insisted on the intensive training of his soldiers, including exposure to live-fire exercises. The result of his efforts was the creation of a highly mobile force that could sustain itself for long periods by living off the land.
In 1758, Rogers was given command of all colonial ranger forces in North America. His second-in-command was John Stark, later the hero of Bennington. The rangers' unconventional nature was demonstrated in the battle on snowshoes (1758), when Rogers forces struck an unsuspecting enemy near Lake George by conveying themselves across snow and ice on snowshoes, skates and sleds; most armies of the day simply closed down operations during the cold weather months and devoted their energies to planning the next spring's offensive.
The Rangers staged their most celebrated exploit in 1759. The fierce Abenaki (Abnaki) Indians in the St. Francis River basin, now southeastern Québec and New Brunswick, had launched devastating attacks against English settlements to the south. Hundreds of lives had been lost and public furor was further aroused by the tribes attack on a British army retreating under a white flag of truce. Rogers assembled 200 rangers, then struck deep into enemy territory, surprised the Abenaki, killed many of them and destroyed their village. Later that same year, Rogers served with James Wolfe at Québec and in the following year with Jeffrey Amherst at Montreal; the latter dispatched the rangers to the Great Lakes area to secure French forts there in late 1760. The surrender of Fort Detroit made Rogers a hero in England and America. During Pontiacs Rebellion, Rogers was again assigned to the Detroit frontier.
In 1765, Rogers traveled to England, where he was warmly received. He used this time of relative leisure to write about his exploits and even pen a forgettable play. George III refused to back a grand exploratory venture for the Mississippi Valley, but did name Rogers commander of Fort Michilimackinac. While at that post, Rogers indulged his passion for finding a Northwest Passage by sending Jonathan Carver on an expedition, the nature of which has never been fully understood. Some have speculated that Rogers was actually interested in setting up an independent republic. Suspicions grew and he was later arrested and charged with treason. Following acquittal, Rogers lived in England until the eve of the War for Independence. He returned to America and offered his services to George Washington, who had deep reservations about Rogers loyalties and had him arrested. Rogers managed to escape confinement and devoted his energies to the formation of Loyalist ranger groups in the New York City area, none of which was noted for distinguished service. He departed for England in 1780, where he lived out his life in obscurity.
The ranger units formed by Rogers continued their duties on the frontier from the end of the French and Indian War to the outbreak of the War for Independence, when most of the forces joined the Patriot side and provided badly needed leadership.
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TOPICS: VetsCoR
KEYWORDS: biography; freeperfoxhole; frenchindianwar; rangers; robertrogers; rogersrangers; veterans
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To: Samwise
'bout time you showed up. ;-)
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posted on
11/29/2004 2:12:13 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: alfa6
Good afternoon alfa6. This Monday is flying by!
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posted on
11/29/2004 2:12:35 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: The Mayor
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posted on
11/29/2004 2:13:36 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: Valin
Men hunters... Need go roam... Starve in cave... Must go find wildebeestAin't that the truth!
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posted on
11/29/2004 2:15:38 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: Professional Engineer
God Bless them. Nice flag-o-gram, thanks PE.
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posted on
11/29/2004 2:16:48 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: SAMWolf; All
Have your musket clean as a whistle, hatchet scoured, sixty rounds powder and ball, and be ready to march at a minutes warning.
How Kerry whistleblower suffered for truth [Swiftboat vet Steve Gardner]
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | November 29, 2004 | BY MARY LANEY
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1290194/posts
Posted on 11/29/2004 6:30:45 AM CST by johnny7
This is the story of a military veteran whistleblower. He spoke out against someone he thought was dangerous for the nation, talked to local newspapers, and appeared on talk shows. In return, he was vilified by reporters, threatened by a political operative, fired by his company, and now he's broke.
His name is Steve Gardner. He's also known as "The 10th Brother," as in Band of Brothers. He's one of two members of Sen. John Kerry's 12 Vietnam swift boat crew members who refused to stand with Kerry at the Democratic Convention. The other man remained silent. "They said I had a political agenda. I had no and have no political agenda whatsoever. I saw John Kerry on television saying he was running for the Democratic nomination for president, and I knew I couldn't ever see him as commander in chief -- not after what I saw in Vietnam, not after the lies I heard him tell about what he says he did and what he says others did."
Gardner explains he was sitting at home in Clover, S.C., when he first saw Kerry on television. It was before the primary races. For 35 years, Gardner says, he hadn't talked about his tour of duty in Vietnam. But when he saw Kerry talking about running, he says he got up, called the newspaper in town, called radio stations and "talked to anyone I could about why this man should never be president." Eventually he got a call from Adm. Roy Huffman, who had been in charge of the coastal division in Vietnam, reunited with other swift boat veterans, and the rest is, as they say, history.
Gardner's story is one that bears telling. He volunteered for the Navy, enlisting on his 18th birthday in February 1966. After training, he was shipped to Vietnam and served for two years as a gunner in the swift boat division. His superior, for four months, was none other than Lt. j.g. John F. Kerry. "I had confrontations with him there. He nearly got us rammed by the VC one night because he wasn't watching the helm. I heard the motor coming close, turned on the spotlight, and the boat was only 90 feet away, coming fast. The VC was aiming an AK47 at us. I shot him out of the boat. We pulled a woman and a baby off the boat. Kerry wrote it up that we captured two VC and killed four more on the beach. None of that was true. The only thing true on Kerry's report was the date. The woman was catatonic and wouldn't call her baby VC and there were no VC on the beach. If we had seen that report before Kerry sent it up the chain of command, he would have been court-martialed and never allowed to run for office. And that's just the San Pan incident. There was much more. He is a self-aggrandizing bold-faced liar. I believe he caused the extension of that war."
Gardner told this story and others to radio stations and he wrote a piece for the local paper. Then, he says, he received a phone call from John Hurley, the veterans organizer for Kerry's campaign. Hurley, Gardner says, asked him to come out for Kerry. He told Hurley to leave him alone and that he'd never be for Kerry. It was then Gardner says, he was threatened with, "You better watch your step. We can look into your finances." Next, Gardner said he received a call from Douglas Brinkley, the author of Tour of Duty: John Kerry and the Vietnam War. Brinkley told Gardner he was calling only to "fact check" the book -- which was already in print. "I told him that the guy in the book is not the same guy I served with. I told him Kerry was a coward. He would patrol the middle of the river. The canals were dangerous. He wouldn't go there unless he had another boat pushing him."
Days later, Brinkley called again, warning Gardner to expect some calls. It seems Brinkley had used the "fact checking" conversation to write an inflammatory article about Gardner for Time.com. The article, implying that Gardner was politically motivated, appeared under the headline "The 10th Brother." Twenty-four hours later, Gardner got an e-mail from his company, Millennium Information Services, informing him that his services would no longer be necessary. He was laid off in an e-mail -- by the same man who only days before had congratulated him for his exemplary work in a territory which covered North and South Carolina. The e-mail stated that his position was being eliminated. Since then, he's seen the company advertising for his old position. Gardner doesn't have the money to sue to get the job back. "I'm broke. I've been hurt every way I can be hurt. I have no money in the bank but am doing little bits here and there to pay the bills," he said. All the millions of dollars raised by Gardner and his fellow Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, and all the proceeds from John O'Neill's book, Unfit for Command, go to families of veterans, POWs and MIAs.
And, even though Gardner is broke and jobless for speaking out, the husband and father of three says he'd do it all over again. He says it wasn't for politics. It was for America.
Found a Freeper (Robe) who lives within 10 miles of the guy. He says Steve Gardner is a great guy, real straightshooter...and doesn't deserve this. Robe will be taking on the fundraising effort. Developing....
94 posted on 11/29/2004 2:39:31 PM CST by anniegetyourgun
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posted on
11/29/2004 2:45:19 PM PST
by
Valin
(Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
To: snippy_about_it
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posted on
11/29/2004 2:48:26 PM PST
by
Valin
(Out Of My Mind; Back In Five Minutes)
To: Valin
48
posted on
11/29/2004 3:18:12 PM PST
by
Iris7
(.....to protect the Constitution from all enemies, both foreign and domestic. Same bunch, anyway.)
To: SAMWolf
Hi Sam..
I must say your store is looking mighty fine!
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posted on
11/29/2004 4:46:26 PM PST
by
The Mayor
(GRACE = Gods Riches At Christs Expense)
To: snippy_about_it
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posted on
11/29/2004 4:47:32 PM PST
by
The Mayor
(GRACE = Gods Riches At Christs Expense)
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
G'd evening all, have you reached the point where you have run out of things to do till you get the display goodies :-)
Do I infer correctly that you have to purchase you displays from the company's vendor. No wonder they ain't in a hurry, no competition.
Hope they get there soon so y'all can get busy.
Postings may be light for the next week, lots of folks on vacation, lots of work for me. Lots of money for Uncle Sam and soime money for me :-(
Regards
alfa6
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posted on
11/29/2004 5:14:40 PM PST
by
alfa6
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Evening Grace Snip & Sam~
Very interesting read . . . this is such a fasinating part of America's History.
At one point throughout their history, Stark entered the wolf/dog into the official Ranger muster roll to draw a Sergeant's rations and pay. It has been said that Sergeant Beaubien scared off his share of the enemy and was well deserving of his pay..
Of course!
#6. When you're on the march we march as a single file, far enough apart so one shot can't go thru two men.
That's some serious foresight.
Thanks for the pic updates, et al.
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posted on
11/29/2004 5:49:10 PM PST
by
w_over_w
(Can I reach the green with 5 iron at 195yrds. out? Eventually.)
To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; PhilDragoo; All
Evening all.
Like my tank?
To: bentfeather
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posted on
11/29/2004 6:42:22 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(D.A.M. ...... Mothers Against Dyslexia.)
To: Lee Heggy
Evening Lee Heggy.
The Gurkhas had a way of scaring the enemy too. They were real good with their knives.
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posted on
11/29/2004 6:44:21 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(D.A.M. ...... Mothers Against Dyslexia.)
To: Victoria Delsoul
I love your tank Victoria!
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posted on
11/29/2004 6:46:15 PM PST
by
bjs1779
To: ken5050
Evening Ken5050.
Haven't seen "Northwest Passage " in what seems a liftime.
I did like the last remake of "Last of the Mohicans"
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posted on
11/29/2004 6:47:13 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(D.A.M. ...... Mothers Against Dyslexia.)
To: U S Army EOD
I am going to call in a airstrike while I am hidden on a distant hill at least one mile away.You think like me. :-)
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posted on
11/29/2004 6:47:54 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(D.A.M. ...... Mothers Against Dyslexia.)
To: Professional Engineer
I guess I've washed out by now I'm right behind you. ;-)
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posted on
11/29/2004 6:48:48 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(D.A.M. ...... Mothers Against Dyslexia.)
To: GailA
Evening GailA.
I'm pooped...I've been washing and painting walls.
Take the rest of the evening off, watch TV and eat bob-bons. ;-)
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posted on
11/29/2004 6:50:20 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(D.A.M. ...... Mothers Against Dyslexia.)
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