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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Cold War (A Synopsis) - Part VIII - Sep 30th, 2004
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Posted on 09/29/2004 11:03:04 PM PDT by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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The Cold War (A Synopsis) - Part II

The Cold War (A Synopsis) - Part III

The Cold War (A Synopsis) - Part IV

The Cold War (A Synopsis) - Part V

The Cold War (A Synopsis) - Part VI

The Cold War (A Synopsis) - Part VII

Star Wars: 1980-1988


REAGAN

President Ronald Reagan's priority was the defeat of the evil empire. He thought that communism was rotten: that it thwarted the marketplace, that it was not good for people, that in spite of its allure as being a sharing of national goods among all the citizens, rather it was an elite that subjugated all of the others. And they used military power in order to deny freedom to anyone over whom they had jurisdiction. They practiced clandestine type of operations to subject smaller nations to overthrow. We saw it creeping into our own hemisphere here, both in Nicaragua and obviously in Cuba, and there are other nations as well. We saw what had happened in Eastern Europe; we saw what had happened in Africa; we saw what was happening in South East Asia; all of this due to the actions of the Soviet Union. And Reagan was determined that the spread of communism had to be halted whatever the cost.



The position that Ronald Reagan took was that in order to defeat communism the United States had to be strong militarily-wise. It was necessary to defend ourselves and to show the rest of the world that we could stand up to the Soviet Union. You remember that it was Joe Stalin, I believe, who said when referring to the Catholic Church and the Pope, "Where are his divisions?" Well, the communists had that attitude. If you weren't strong and if you couldn't stand up to them militarily, all the threats were to no avail. So Reagan was determined that the United States would have to have the forces to back up the rhetoric that he was using in trying to show the rest of the world that there was a way out of the dilemma of how to overcome this mighty Soviet Union.



At his first press conference as president, Ronald Reagan rendered a tough verdict on the policy of détente, calling it "a one-way street the Soviet Union has used to pursue its own aims." Reagan's message was unmistakable: The only way to deal with the Kremlin was from a position of strength.

Immediately, he began a new phase of rearmament. He increased the defense budget by $32.6 billion. He approved production of the costly B-1 bomber, a project President Carter had scrapped. He expanded the size of the Navy. And new defense guidelines called for preparations to wage a nuclear war "over a protracted period."



The renewed arms race and Reagan's anti-Soviet rhetoric revived the anti-nuclear movement in Western Europe. Reagan was portrayed by a vocal minority of Americans and many Europeans as a warmonger. Yet, in truth, Reagan shared their antipathy for nuclear brinksmanship -- the policy known as "mutual assured destruction."

HUMAN RIGHTS

In the era of détente, the issue of human rights gained attention on both sides of the Iron Curtain. In 1975 in Helsinki, 35 nations -- including the United States and U.S.S.R. -- signed a declaration on human rights. Meanwhile, Czech dissidents secretly drew up Charter 77, a human rights document that was smuggled to the West. Activists in the communist bloc set up Helsinki Watch Committees to monitor and publicize abuses. But the Soviets did not feel bound by the Helsinki Accords and persecuted the dissidents, many of whom ended up in KGB prisons -- or in mental hospitals, where mind-control drugs were used to make them recant.


Anatoly (Natan) and Avital Scharansky phoning President Reagan from Ben-Gurion Airport to thank him for his part in Anatoly's release


Jews were a distinctive group among the dissidents -- claiming the right to leave the Soviet Union. Many were refused exit visas and became known as refuseniks. Those who campaigned for their rights were often sent to forced labor camps for years. In 1979, the prominent refusenik Anatoly Sharansky was sentenced to 13 years for espionage and treason. Outside the court, supporters defiantly publicized his case to the Western media -- triggering forceful protests in the West. The evidence of human rights abuse inflamed anti-Soviet feeling in America.

SALT II

As Moscow and Washington clashed over human rights, they also stepped up negotiations for a new arms limitation treaty -- SALT II.

One issue not on the SALT II agenda was the Soviets' decision to deploy the SS-20, a new medium-range nuclear missile that targeted Western Europe. West Germany and other NATO allies were alarmed. Instead of making the SS-20s an issue during the SALT II negotiations, the United States pursued a twin-track policy: America would develop its new generation of missiles and allow Moscow three years to negotiate limits on medium-range missiles. If no deal was reached, America would station its cruise and Pershing nuclear missiles in Europe -- and target Soviet cities. Fear of missiles in their backyard created a new mood of resistance among Western Europeans.


Between 1977 and 1987, the Soviet Union deployed 654 SS-20 missiles and 509 launchers in 48 Strategic Rocket Forces regiments


By June 1979, the superpowers had agreed to new limits on strategic arms -- completing the SALT II treaty. Carter and Brezhnev met for the first time when they came to Vienna to sign the agreement. Soviets viewed the treaty as a way to limit arms production -- and improve their civilian economy. But in America, the pact was condemned by the political right for not imposing limits on the development of new weapons systems. Ultimately, SALT II would fail to gain congressional approval.

TENSION

In Moscow, Andropov responded defiantly to Reagan's "Star Wars" plan. "All attempts at achieving military superiority over the U.S.S.R. are futile," he said. Privately, however, Andropov was frightened by SDI and Reagan's anti-Soviet speeches. Convinced that the West was planning for war, Andropov ordered a worldwide alert. The KGB monitored every aspect of life in the West.

The Americans stepped up spy flights in sensitive areas along the Soviet Union's long borders. Aircraft packed with electronic surveillance gear and disguised as civilian airliners often flew close to passenger routes.



On August 31, 1983, a South Korean airliner left Anchorage for Seoul. For reasons still unexplained, KAL Flight 007, with 269 people on board, ended up in Soviet air space, more than 300 miles from its normal route. After firing several warning tracer shots across the plane's bow, a Soviet fighter pilot downed the carrier, killing everyone on board. Reagan called the incident "an act of barbarism."

GORBACHEV

A mood of crisis now gripped both East and West. Arms control talks were broken off. The Soviet leadership even believed a nuclear attack by the West was imminent. Reagan was surprised when told the Kremlin seriously feared an American first-strike offensive. It was time, he told aides, for a face-to-face meeting with Soviet leaders.


Mikhail Gorbachev


But to whom in the Kremlin could Reagan talk peace? In February 1984, Yuri Andropov died. His successor, Konstantin Chernenko, was too frail to start a dialogue and died a year later -- the third aged Soviet leader to die in three years.

Party leaders knew the country needed new blood. They turned to 54-year-old reformer Mikhail Gorbachev -- who in a speech the year before had introduced the concepts of "perestroika" (restructuring) and "glasnost" (openness) to the Communist Party lexicon. At a party plenum to ratify his election by the Politburo, Gorbachev pledged to make the Soviet Union more democratic -- and announced his intention to stop the arms race.

RAPPORT

In November 1985, Gorbachev traveled to Geneva to meet with Reagan for the first superpower summit in six years.



At their first face-to-face meeting, the two leaders outlined their positions in adversarial terms -- arguing about regional conflicts and accusing each other of trying to divide the world. Gorbachev later told aides Reagan was not just a conservative, but "a political dinosaur." Later that day, the tenor of the dialogue changed. Though the two leaders remained divided by Reagan's "Star Wars" initiative, the atmosphere grew warmer -- they established a rapport. Gorbachev left Geneva without agreement on his main objective -- curbing the arms race -- but the United States and the Soviet Union were talking again.

One year into the Gorbachev era the Cold War continued. The Geneva call for a second summit was repeatedly postponed. Fears of nuclear war remained. In April 1986, an explosion ripped apart a reactor at the Chernobyl nuclear power plant in Ukraine north of Kiev. The disaster highlighted the incompetence of the Soviet system.

REYKJAVIK

Six months after the Chernobyl disaster, Reagan and Gorbachev went to Reykjavik, Iceland, for their second summit. No one expected much of substance to emerge.



But over the next few days, the two leaders took a series of bold and unexpected steps aimed at reducing the threat of nuclear war. Gorbachev seized the initiative, winning Reagan's backing for a comprehensive set of reductions of strategic arms, intermediate-range missile and space weapons. Next, the two leaders agreed on the complete withdrawal of intermediate-range missiles in Europe and a 50 percent reduction in ballistic missiles over a five-year period.

As the talks continued, Reagan and Gorbachev each raised the ante in their quest for arms reductions. Finally, Reagan stunned Gorbachev and his own advisers by offering to eliminate all nuclear weapons in 10 years, effectively abolishing the nuclear deterrent. But Gorbachev continued to press Reagan on "Star Wars." "Our meeting cannot produce one winner. We both either win or lose," he said. Reagan would not budge.



The summit ended without an agreement -- but each delegation realized the discussions had crossed a historic line. Gorbachev immediately went on the offense in saying that Reagan had broken up the meeting insisting upon SDI, giving his spin, as it were, to the outcome. And [Secretary of State George] Shultz talked for us and unfortunately the press didn't believe his story ... and it came across that we had been defeated. When in point of fact we had won, because we now know that Gorbachev went home and although he was saying one thing, his mind was telling him: It's all over for the Soviet Union.



In 1987, Reagan and Gorbachev met in Washington to sign the Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces (INF) Treaty -- eliminating an entire class of U.S. and Soviet nuclear arms for Eastern and Western Europe. Reagan's defense of "Star Wars" prevented further progress in arms talks for the remainder of his presidency. Nevertheless, two leaders a generation apart had brought their two countries closer then they had been in 40 years.



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To: Samwise

Bush is doing pretty good. Kerry is doing a really good job of being "nuanced".

He's been a all 22 sides of everything.


81 posted on 09/30/2004 7:09:32 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Samwise

" Half say Bush is doing terrible."

Remember we do have a lot of "Drama Queens" here.


82 posted on 09/30/2004 7:18:38 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Valin
Remember we do have a lot of "Drama Queens" here.

Not that there's anything wrong with that. :^)

83 posted on 09/30/2004 7:20:39 PM PDT by Samwise (The Pajama People: They also serve who hunt and peck.)
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To: Samwise

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

True, but it does get a bit frustrating sometimes.


84 posted on 09/30/2004 7:26:18 PM PDT by Valin (I'll try being nicer if you'll try being smarter.)
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To: Samwise

Do you know Gary?


85 posted on 09/30/2004 8:08:19 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (You have to ask yourself, "Do you really want to vote for a Sunkist president?". Well, do you punk?)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Aeronaut; Iris7; E.G.C.; The Mayor; snopercod; manna; bentfeather; ...
KAL 007: The Literature

I actually voted for the 87 billion--
before I voted against it.

Kerry: 'I'm Proud I Stood Against Reagan'

A day after Ronald Reagan's death Sen. John Kerry praised him for his "love of country" and geniality. But as recently as last year Kerry boasted:

"I'm proud that I stood against Ronald Reagan, not with him, when his intelligence agencies were abusing the Constitution of the United States and when he was running an illegal war in Central America."

That's just one of a series of anti-Reagan quotes unearthed by the Weekly Standard, where the Massachusetts Democrat slams Reagan as everything from an "inexperienced" governor to a dime-store cowboy.

But it was the battle over U.S. aid to Nicaragua's Contra freedom fighters - backed by Reagan and opposed by congressional Democrats - that drove Kerry to extremes.

He was one of 10 signatories to the infamous "Dear Commandante" letter that offered Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega a deal: Don't do anything too overtly Marxist and Democrats would see to it that the Reagan-backed freedom fighters would be denied funding.

After Reagan lost the vote, Ortega promptly traveled to Moscow to get further instructions from his Soviet patrons, leaving Kerry and crew looking like communist dupes.

The Cold War -- Part IX -- Reagan/Bush v. Komrade Kerry

86 posted on 09/30/2004 10:18:40 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo

Kerry is a communist.


87 posted on 09/30/2004 11:11:49 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Samwise
Just got home. What color is his skin tonight? Sam and I had a class tonight and just finished watching the tape we made of it. They obviously lightened Kerry's spray on tan and his nails were too long but neatly manicured.
88 posted on 09/30/2004 11:14:50 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin

Thanks for the bio of Natan (Anatoly) Sharansky, Valin


89 posted on 09/30/2004 11:24:31 PM PDT by SAMWolf ("Coordinates? I don't *care* what we hit...FIRE!")
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To: Samwise

LOL! Looks like he lost the orange tint.


90 posted on 09/30/2004 11:25:27 PM PDT by SAMWolf ("Coordinates? I don't *care* what we hit...FIRE!")
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To: Samwise

If you could get past the outright Bullcrap Kerry was spewing, his delivery was a lot better than President Bush's. :-(


91 posted on 09/30/2004 11:26:57 PM PDT by SAMWolf ("Coordinates? I don't *care* what we hit...FIRE!")
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To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.

"I'm proud that I stood against Ronald Reagan, not with him, when his intelligence agencies were abusing the Constitution of the United States and when he was running an illegal war in Central America."

And in tonight's debate he tries to compare himself to Reagan and even steals some of his quotes. GRRRRR

92 posted on 09/30/2004 11:29:40 PM PDT by SAMWolf ("Coordinates? I don't *care* what we hit...FIRE!")
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To: SAMWolf
"I don't trust Putin."

For me, I don't think much or often about trust where people I really don't know are concerned.

Putin I trust to the extent that I trust he will act consistently. If he appears to be acting otherwise, then my own understanding is faulty.

Is Putin an honest politician? The old definition of "honest politician" is "one that stays bought". Well, no politician I ever heard of is honest, then.

Imagine a man who thinks and talks like me getting elected! And my memory is pretty darned selective and all too often!
93 posted on 10/01/2004 1:50:18 AM PDT by Iris7 ("Man has always sacrificed truth to his vanity, comfort and advantage. He lives... by make-believe.")
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To: snopercod
No, not interesting. Insatiably curious, yeah, I guess. Stick my nose into dumb situations, well, not much anymore. And I mean dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb.

Talk to "Archy" you want to see someone with an "interesting" life. He speaks the language of the Gurkha very well.

As far as my run in with the Comrades, they were afraid of me physically, I think, and I had a good friend who was closer to the inner circle than I was, and he gave me what I needed, and I gave him the leverage on those people he wanted. Otherwise I probably would have stayed out of it. He is dead now, natural causes. Good man, fine, fine American. Jewish.

Dang if I don't talk too much! Thirty years past though, now. Never talked about it before.

Saw a Comrade two years ago, married with three kids. People get tired of lies.

Those folks were a bunch of weenies, actually. Did watch out for a year or two, though I didn't hide. Can't really hide anymore unless you change your name and fake your work experience, or wash dishes. Weenies never showed up. Talk like bad asses, then wimp out. Jerks.

(Beat the chest, holler "I'm BAD! I'm BAD"!!! Sh_t, anyway. Did scare those dinks long ago, but it was like scaring pigeons. Except for that KGB fellow. My friend told me he was in town and described him or I never would have guessed.)

94 posted on 10/01/2004 2:23:58 AM PDT by Iris7 ("Man has always sacrificed truth to his vanity, comfort and advantage. He lives... by make-believe.")
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To: PhilDragoo

BTTT!!!!!!!


95 posted on 10/01/2004 3:02:09 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: Iris7

Thanks for sharing that glimpse with us. (I like your tagline, too.)


96 posted on 10/01/2004 6:38:15 AM PDT by snopercod ("I'm so proud to be a part of this great mass deception" --Frank Zappa)
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To: snopercod
The tagline comes from Valin. Sardonic humor in truthtelling!

"Stick my nose into dumb situations, well, not much anymore. And I mean dumb. Dumb, dumb, dumb." Did it again last night, stuck my nose into a dumb situation. Tried to talk to a Bush hater.

Man, those people are everywhere. They could easily win, there are so many. This guy is impervious because he says that unless CBS, NBC, ABC, or NPR say it is true then it is a lie. If you say the Rather forgeries are forgeries, you are lying, period. Eye rolling, heavy breathing, rage.

Anger and fear are the two sides of the same coin. Such fear. Near panic.

97 posted on 10/01/2004 2:26:42 PM PDT by Iris7 ("Man has always sacrificed truth to his vanity, comfort and advantage. He lives... by make-believe.")
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To: Matthew Paul
Thanks for the images.

I especially enjoyed the one with the anchor banner.
98 posted on 10/08/2004 9:27:24 AM PDT by Mike Fieschko ("Daddy, are there bad men on your planes?")
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