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The FReeper Foxhole Revisits Case White - The Invasion of Poland (9/1/1939) - Sept. 3rd, 2004
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Posted on 09/02/2004 10:59:14 PM PDT by snippy_about_it



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.



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Invasion of Poland
World War Two in Europe Begins


On September 1st, 1939, 1.8 million German troops invaded Poland on three fronts; East Prussia in the north, Germany in the west and Slovakia in the south. They had 2600 tanks against the Polish 180, and over 2000 aircraft against the Polish 420. Their "Blitzkrieg" tactics, coupled with their bombing of defenseless towns and refugees, had never been seen before and, at first, caught the Poles off-guard. By September 14th. Warsaw was surrounded. At this stage the poles reacted, holding off the Germans at Kutno and regrouping behind the Wisla (Vistula) and Bzura rivers. Although Britain and france declared war on September 3rd. the Poles received no help - yet it had been agreed that the Poles should fight a defensive campaign for only 2 weeks during which time the Allies could get their forces together and attack from the west.



There are many "myths" that surround the September Campaign; the fictional Polish cavalry charges against German tanks (actually reported by the Italian press and used as propaganda by the Germans), the alleged destruction of the Polish Air Force on the ground, or claims that Polish Armour failed to achieve any success against the invaders. In reality, and despite the fact that Poland was only just beginning to modernise her armed forces and had been forced (by Britain and france) to delay mobilisation (which they claimed might be interpreted as aggressive behavior) so that, at the time of invasion, only about one-third of her total potential manpower was mobilised, Polish forces ensured that the September campaign was no "walk-over".

The Wehrmacht had so under-rated Polish anti-tank capabilities (the Polish-designed anti-tank gun was one of the best in the world at that time) that they had gone into action with white "balkankreuz", or crosses, prominently displayed in eight locations; these crosses made excellent aiming points for Polish gun-sights and forced the Germans to radically rethink their national insignia, initially overpainting them in yellow and then, for their later campaigns, adopting the modified "balkankreuz" similar to that used by the Luftwaffe. The recently-designed 7TP "czolg lekki", or light tank, the first in the world to be designed with a diesel engine, proved to be superior to German tanks of the same class (the PzKpfw I and II) inflicting serious damage to the German forces, limited only by the fact that they were not used in concentrated groups. They were absorbed by the Germans into their own Panzer divisions at the end of the campaign.


German Panzer I and Panzer II vehicles with a Hanomag to their left.
The German tanks were only lightly armed and armoured but when used in mass formations, they proved more than a match for the small number of Polish vehicles.


At 04.30 Stuka dive-bombers prematurely bombed the bridge at Tczew in the Pomeranian Corridor. SS troops dressed in Polish uniforms attacked the radio station at Gleiwitz and broadcast inflammatory statements urging Polish minorities to take up arms against Hitler. For a touch of realism, several bodies of concentration inmates dressed in Polish uniforms, were left behind as 'evidence' for journalists to report on.

The Free City of Danzig was heavily shelled and bombed, inflicting heavy casualties upon the civilian population and military coastal defences or navy flotillas. In Danzig, the defenders, particularly civilian volunteers were shot. The Army Pomorze faced the 4th Army whose tactic was to isolate them in the north from the rest of the Polish Forces and then link up with the Third Army and attack Warsaw.


JU87 Stuka


Daylong fighting produced at times, scenes of sheer heroism. The Pomorska Cavalry Brigade had been in contacts with the German 20th Motorized Infantry Division. Colonel Masterlarz had half the unit mount up and attempted a surprise attack from the rear. Catching an infantry battalion by surprise in a woodland clearing, the sabre attack wiped them out. Legends and myths were borne of cavalry units taking on armoured vehicles. However, what is forgotten, is that the cavalry units carried anti-tank weapons for rapid deployment.

On the Prussian Front the German Third Army broke through defences to the north of Warsaw. Ground attacks started at 05.00 and aimed to knock out the heavy fortifications at Mlawa. It was on this front that the Polish Mazowiecka Cavalry Brigade had a number of sabre clashes with the German First Cavalry Brigade thus marking an end to mounted warfare. The Polish Special Operational Group Narew had virtually no contacts with German forces due to the restraining action of the Polish Third Army and therefore effectively denied rapid gains on this front.



The heaviest fighting took place in the Southwest, a front covered by Army Lodz and further south, Army Krakow. Army Poznan in the centre saw little action or contact on the first day of fighting. The German Eighth and Tenth Armies pushed through the massive densely forested areas with major infantry clashes en route. The Wolynska Cavalry Brigade successfully countered attacks by the German 4th Panzer Division whose poor co-ordination in attack delayed advance and lost equipment. This front was geographicaly the most diverse and faced the largest concentration of mechanized troops. The heaviest fighting was around the industrial zone of Katowice.

In the south, the 44th and 45th Infantry Divisions attacked throught the Jablonkow Pass near Karwina and Cieszyn which were lightly defended. In the southern mountainous area, the XXII Panzer Corps attacked just below Nowy Targ at the Dunajec river which was defended by the 1st KOP Regiment and National Guard Zakopane Battalion. Army Krakow was forced to commit support to stem the attack which was temporarily held.



Outflanked and harassed by German guerrilla units, Army Krakow had to deal with a large number of armed German units set up by the Abwehr to carry out sabotage.

Once the Germans broke through the various fronts, poor communications impeded any chance of reforming on a grand scale. From the 10th until 18th September Polish units were able to reform quickly and still were able to harass and inflict serious damage. For field commanders like Anders, confusion and contradictory orders added to the pain and humiliation of the inevitable defeat. Units attempted to move south-east despite heavy co-ordinated artillery bombardments. Soldiers and civilians who were able to bear arms bravely defended and resisted for as long as possible as they moved behind the Vistula. Encirclement began and 60,000 troops were destroyed at Radom. Partisan units were organized and regular army units kept moving southeast in order to gain supplies of food and munitions and regroup to avoid annihilation once the Russians entered the war on 17th September.


Polish P11 Fighter


On September 17th. Soviet forces invaded from the east. Warsaw surrendered 2 weeks later, the garrison on the Hel peninsula surrendered on October 2nd., and the Polesie Defence group, after fighting on two fronts against both German and Soviet forces, surrendered on October 5th. The Poles had held on for twice as long as had been expected and had done more damage to the Germans than the combined British and french forces were to do in 1940. The Germans lost 50,000 men, 697 planes and 993 tanks and armoured cars.

Thousands of soldiers and civilians managed to escape to france and Britain whilst many more went "underground" . A government-in-exile was formed with Wladyslaw Raczkiewicz as President and General Wladyslaw Sikorski as Prime Minister.


German forces in the outskirts of Warsaw. In the background of the photograph, the city burns as a result of the German military assault. Warsaw, Poland, September 1939.


Field commanders moved as many of the remnants of the army to an escape route which led to Romania and Hungary . Units breached German lines on 22nd September before Soviet troops blocked all routes. Poland finally fell on the 6th October as the last organized resistance was crushed at Hel and Kock. Zaloga and Madej (1991) estimated the Germans took 587,000 prisoners and the Soviets 200,000. Anders (1949) estimated between 200 - 300,000 escaped into Romania and Hungary through the Dukla Pass. Those who were caught by the Soviets may have been far higher (Anders, 1949). Fiedotov, an NKVD general estimated it to be nearer 475,000. However, if all those arrested including White Russians, Jews and political prisoners, the number was between 1.5 and 1.6m people. Transported to the Gulags, few survived.

The Fourth Partition:




Under the German-Soviet pact Poland was divided; the Soviets took, and absorbed into the Soviet Union, the eastern half (Byelorussia and the West Ukraine), the Germans incorporated Pomerania, Posnania and Silesia into the Reich whilst the rest was designated as the General-Gouvernement (a colony ruled from Krakow by Hitler's friend, Hans Frank).


Marshal Edward Smigly-Rydz


In the Soviet zone 1.5 million Poles (including women and children) were transported to labour camps in Siberia and other areas. Many thousands of captured Polish officers were shot at several secret forest sites; the first to be discovered being Katyn, near Smolensk.

The Germans declared their intention of eliminating the Polish race (a task to be completed by 1975) alongside the Jews. This process of elimination, the "Holocaust", was carried out systematically. All members of the "intelligentsia" were hunted down in order to destroy Polish culture and leadership (many were originally exterminated at Oswiencim - better known by its German name, Auschwitz). Secret universities and schools, a "Cultural Underground", were formed (the penalty for belonging to one was death). In the General-Gouvernement there were about 100,000 secondary school pupils and over 10,000 university students involved in secret education.


Refugees, September 1939


The Polish Jews were herded into Ghettos where they were slowly starved and cruelly offered hopes of survival but, in fact, ended up being shot or gassed. In the end they were transported, alongside non-Jewish Poles, Gypsies and Soviet POWs, to extermination camps such as Auschwitz and Treblinka; at Auschwitz over 4 million were exterminated. 2000 concentration camps were built in Poland, which became the major site of the extermination programme, since this was where most of the intended victims lived.

Many non-Jewish Poles were either transported to Germany and used as slave labour or simply executed. In the cities the Germans would round-up and kill indiscriminately as a punishment for any underground or anti-German or pro-Jewish activity. In the countryside they kept prominent citizens as hostages who would be executed if necessary. Sometimes they liquidated whole villages; at least 300 villages were destroyed. Hans Frank said, "If I wanted to put up a poster for every seven Poles shot, the forests of Poland would not suffice to produce the paper for such posters."


Polish 7TP light tanks


Despite such horror the Poles refused to give in or cooperate (there were no Polish collaborators as in other occupied countries). The Polish Underground or AK (Armia Krajowa or Home Army) was the largest in Europe with 400,000 men. The Jewish resistance movement was set up separately because of the problem of being imprisoned within the ghettos. Both these organisations caused great damage to the Nazi military machine. Many non-Jewish Poles saved the lives of thousands of Jews despite the fact that the penalty, if caught, was death (in fact, Poland was the only occupied nation where aiding Jews was punishable by death).






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To: Darksheare

Afternoon Darksheare.


101 posted on 09/03/2004 12:24:59 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: colorado tanker

That's their problem, they do not learn from history.


102 posted on 09/03/2004 12:26:32 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: colorado tanker

I think the Russians ranked 2nd at the time.


103 posted on 09/03/2004 12:27:45 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Iris7

Thanks for the hint on searching for what I need. You bet time here is not wasted. :-) It's where great minds meet.


104 posted on 09/03/2004 12:29:50 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: colorado tanker
Lurch looked angry, petty and incoherent.

Because he is. :-)

I still laugh everytime I read you tagline.

106 posted on 09/03/2004 12:31:01 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Sam and I have been swamped with work. We are trying to get something non Foxhole related going and it is taking all of our time. Tough to get in here but we cannot neglect our home away from home our beloved Foxhole.

It doesn't pay though so we must find another way to keep roofs over our heads. :-)


107 posted on 09/03/2004 12:33:12 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Matthew Paul

LOL.


Of course it had to be a difficult decision. The times were horrible and unimaginable.


108 posted on 09/03/2004 12:35:10 PM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: PsyOp
Napoleonic-era muskets shooting 1000 yards? LOL!

I got quite an education on those small arms from reading the Sharpe series. Rifles were used by the skirmishers, who needed the range and accuracy. The key to infantry success in battle, though, was volume of fire and the rifle was too slow loading to fit the bill. I'd never heard of the tapered rifle - that does sound like an accident waiting to happen!

109 posted on 09/03/2004 12:41:29 PM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: Valin
Thanks Valin.

captured by the Red Army in 1939....sent to the Siberian Gulag....escaped from a labor camp in Yakutsk and made their way, on foot, thousands of miles south to British India, where Rawicz reenlisted in the Polish army and fought against the Germans.

Just Amazing

110 posted on 09/03/2004 1:02:49 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Personal 111th birthday wishes to Bilbo.

Hopefully President Elect Bush will be there to wish the Foxhole it's 2nd birthday. :-)

111 posted on 09/03/2004 1:04:17 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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To: colorado tanker

Yeah. Some people refuse to be educated. When I tried to explain that even with a double charge of powder and a high angle of fire, the average Napoleonic era smoothbore musket would be hard-pressed to lob a 50+ caliber ball that far.

A good friend of mine shoots black-powder in competition (once took the state championship). He makes his own rifles, specifically designed for long range target shooting out to 500 yards. When I told him what my proffessor had said he laughed so hard he cried.

Even the skirmishers who had actual rifles, as you pointed out, rarely engaged enemy infantry beyond 300 to 400 yards. I also suspect, and have read some analysis to this effect, that the ranges reported in these battles at the time the initial histories were written, were greatly exagerated and often inaccurate.


112 posted on 09/03/2004 1:04:19 PM PDT by PsyOp (John Kerry—a .22 Rimfire Short in a .44 Magnum world.)
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To: snippy_about_it

Afternoon.
Nothing much going on where I'm at.


113 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:10 PM PDT by Darksheare (Indiana Jones and the Fooseball of DOOM!)
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To: PsyOp

I still have my paper stashed away somewhere. It was actually centered on the the invasion of france and the Low Countries. Part of my arguement was that the french and other Allied forces (Britain, Holland, Belguim, etc) outnumbered the German forces in armor and in some cases had better tanks than the Germans..

Interesting ideas on the Napoleonic tactics. I'm not real familiar with black powder weapons but 1,000 yards does seem like a long way for aimed fire. Heck that's a long way for tadays small arms!


114 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:29 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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To: PsyOp
Even the skirmishers who had actual rifles, as you pointed out, rarely engaged enemy infantry beyond 300 to 400 yards. I also suspect, and have read some analysis to this effect, that the ranges reported in these battles at the time the initial histories were written, were greatly exaggerated and often inaccurate.

You mean to say soldiers back then also embellished their war stories??? I'm shocked, I tell you, shocked. :)

115 posted on 09/03/2004 1:12:34 PM PDT by colorado tanker (wanna see my happy hat?)
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To: Matthew Paul

Thanks Matt. I see the film is available with sub-titles. SNippy and I will have to see if we can get a copy.


116 posted on 09/03/2004 1:14:25 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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To: Professional Engineer

LOL!


117 posted on 09/03/2004 1:15:00 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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To: stand watie
he took her out of the brace

YAY!!!!!!

Free Duckie!!

118 posted on 09/03/2004 1:16:46 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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To: Iris7

Didn't some of the Atlanta class CL's get coverted to CLAA's with extra AA armament?


119 posted on 09/03/2004 1:19:17 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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To: Iris7

Thanks Iris7.


120 posted on 09/03/2004 1:20:09 PM PDT by SAMWolf (To be sure of hitting the target, shoot first, and call whatever you hit the target.)
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