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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - The BMP Infantry Fighting Vehicles - Jul. 13th, 2004
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Posted on 07/13/2004 12:00:10 AM PDT by SAMWolf



Lord,

Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
.

FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer
for all those serving their country at this time.


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BMP-1




The Bronevaya Maschina Piekhota (BMP-1) was first built in the early 1960s and seen in public in November 1967 at a Red Square parade. It was called the M-1967 and BMP by NATO before its correct designation was known. The BMP represented an important shift from the concept of an armored personnel carrier to an armored infantry combat vehicle, combining high mobility, effective anti-tank weapons, and armored protection for carrying troops. The BMP is significantly smaller than Western APCs and has considerably greater firepower. The BMP-1 was innovative in that it allowed the infantry being carried to fire their personal weapons from within the vehicle whilst remaining protected by armour. To do this firing ports and vision devices were provided for each infantry soldier. Thus the BMP became the first Infantry Combat Vehicle. The BMP-1 carrys a crew of three to eight. The BMP replaced the BTR-50P and complements the BTR-60PB in first-line motorized rifle units.


BMP-1


A combination of effective antitank firepower, high mobility, and adequate protection made the BMP a formidable addition to the inventory of Soviet motorized rifle units. Designed to suit the demands of high-speed offensive in a nuclear war, it carries a 73mm, 2A20 gun with maximum rounds of 40 and maximum range of over 7,000 ft. Its 73-mm main gun fires a rocket-assisted, fin- stabilized HEAT projectile with an effective range of 800 meters medium (capable of successfully engaging tanks at ranges up to 1,300 meters) and is equipped with an automatic loader. The main armament of the BMP1 is unusual, in that it fires the same ammunition as the RPG-7 infantry rocket propelled grenade launcher. A launching rail for the AT-3 Sagger antitank guided missile is located above the gun for longer range antitank capability (up to 3,000 meters).



The BMP is a fully armored amphibious infantry combat vehicle (AICV). Its low silhouette hull has a sharp sloping front with a conspicuously ridged surface. A centrally located, extremely flat, truncated cone turret mounts a 73-mm smoothbore gun and a 7.62-mm coaxial machine gun. A launching rail for SAGGER missiles is attached above the gun. The 290 hp, water-cooled, 6- cylinder diesel engine is located at the right front, while the driver's hatch is at the left front, directly in front of the commander's hatch which mounts an IR searchlight. The gunner's hatch is on the left side of the low turret roof. To the rear of the turret there are four large hatches in the roof of the troop compartment, as well as two large exit doors in the rear. There are four firing ports in each side of the troop compartment and one in the left rear door. The suspension has six unevenly spaced road wheels of the PT-76 type, with three track support rollers and a front drive sprocket.



The BMP is amphibious, propelled through water by its tracks rather than using the waterjet propulsion of the PT-76, and has the range and speed necessary to keep up with the fast-moving tanks it normally follows in offensive formations.

The BMP has a three-man crew, including the vehicle commander, who becomes the squad leader when the infantry passengers dismount through the rear exit doors. However, vision blocks and firing ports in the sides and rear of the troop compartment allow the infantrymen to fire assault rifles (AKM or AK-74) and light machine guns (PKM or RPK-74) from inside the vehicle on the move. The troops also carry the RPG-7 or RPG-16 AT grenade launcher and the SA-7/ GRAIL or SA-14 SAM, either of which can be fired by a passenger standing in a rear hatch. When buttoned up, crew and passengers have NBC protection in the pressurized and filtered hull, which allows them to operate regardless of the outside environment.



The BMP is equipped with an infrared searchlight, periscopes, and sights for night operations and has a capability to make its own smoke screen by injecting diesel fuel into the exhaust manifold.

Because of the extreme vulnerability demonstrated by the BMP in the 1973 Middle East war, there has been extensive debate in the Soviet Army as to how this vehicle should be used in battle. The BMP has relatively thin armor (maximum thickness 19 mm in the hull, 23 mm in the turret) which provides protection against .50 caliber armor-piercing rounds only over the 60° frontal arc, and the vehicle is extremely vulnerable to ATGM and tank fire. Due to the compactness of the vehicle, critical areas such as the engine compartment and ammunition storage area (on the right side), fuel cells (in the rear doors), and the troop compartment are located in such a manner that penetration anywhere on the vehicle normally will result in a mobility, firepower, or personnel kill.



Because of limited capability to depress the main gun, the BMP is unable to engage tanks and APCs from good hull-down positions, and so is very vulnerable to enemy fire when it exposes itself to engage targets.



Although the turret can traverse 360 degrees, the main gun and coaxial machine gun must be elevated to clear the IR searchlight on the commander's cupola, creating a dead space for both weapons between 10:00 and 11:00 o'clock. This limitation could be a serious problem during an engagement since an automatic cutoff on the electrically operated turret halts movement until the gun is elevated.



The BMP can maintain its top speed (70 km/h) for only short periods of time because of the high amount of vibration and the possibility of transmission failure. Due to the complicated loading mechanism and the lack of stabilization, it is not possible to accurately fire the 73-mm gun or the coaxial machine gun while on the move over rough terrain. The BMP must be stationary when firing and tracking the SAGGER ATGM. The SAGGER is difficult to reload and cannot be reloaded at all under NBC conditions. The land navigation system must be zeroed every 30 minutes.



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To: GailA

Morning GailA. Now that looks appetizing.


21 posted on 07/13/2004 7:23:49 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Talk is cheap because Supply exceeds Demand.)
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To: SAMWolf

On This Day In History


Birthdates which occurred on July 13:
1396 Philip the Good Duke of Burgundy
1527 John Dee London, alchemist/astrologer/mathematician
1608 Ferdinand III, King of Hungary/Bohemia/German Emperor (1637-57)
1793 John Clare Northamptonshire peasant poet (Shepard's Calendar)
1815 James Alexander Seddon, Secy War (Confederacy), died in 1880
1821 Nathan Bedford Forrest Tennessee, brilliant cavalry leader, Lt Gen
1863 Emma Mary Wooley educator (Mary Anna Wells)
1901 Mickey "Toy Bulldog" Walker welterweight boxing champ (1922-26)
1913 Dave Garroway Schnectady NY, TV host (Today Show)
1928 Bob Crane Waterbury Ct, actor (Hogan's Heroes)
1934 Alexei S Yeliseyev cosmonaut (Soyuz 5, 8, 10)
1935 Jack Kemp (Rep-R-NY)/QB Buffalo Bills/US Secretary of Housing (1989- )
1940 Patrick Stewart actor (Capt Picard-Star Trek Next Generation)
1940 Paul Prudhomme cajun chef
1942 Harrison Ford actor (Star Wars, Indiana Jones, Blade Runner)
1942 Roger McGuinn rocker (Byrds-Turn Turn Turn, Mr Tambourine Man)
1946 Richard "Cheech" Marin comedian (Cheech & Chong-Up in Smoke)
1950 George D "Pinky" Nelson Iowa, PhD/astro (STS 41C, STS 61-C, STS-26)
1954 Louise Mandrell Corpus Christi Tx, country singer (Mandrell Sisters)
1975 Danielle Boatwright, Kansas, Miss USA (Kansas-2nd-1996)



Deaths which occurred on July 13:
0574 John III, Italian Pope (561-74), dies
0939 Leo VII, Italian Pope (936-39), dies
1024 Henry II, the Monk, German King (1002-24), dies
1105 Rashi, [Rabbi Shlomo Yitzaki], Jewish intellectual, dies
1762 James Bradley 3rd Astronomer Royal, dies
1785 Stephen Hopkins, US judge/signer (Decl of Independence), dies at 78
1793 Jean Paul Marat French revolutionary, murdered by Charlotte Corday
1890 John C Fremont declared Republic of California, dies at 76
1946 Alfred Stieglitz, US photographer/art dealer (Camera Work), dies at 82
1988 Samuel L Mendel, oldest US war veteran, dies at 104
1989 Abdul Rahman Qassemlu, Iran Kurds leader, murdered
1993 Davey Allisson, race car drive, dies in a plane crash at 32


Reported: MISSING in ACTION
1963 SAM TRINH A---VIETNAM
[COMMANDO RELEASED 03/27/83 ALIVE AND WELL 98]
1965 GALLANT HENRY J.---TAMPA FL.
[AIR GND SEARCH NEG]
1965 TAYLOR FRED---CASTLEWOOD VA.
[ARVN AIR GND SEARCH NEG]
1968 HURST JOHN CLARK---LUFKIN TX.

POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
the P.O.W. NETWORK. Skidmore, MO. USA.


On this day...
0432 -BC- Origin of Metonic Cycle
0574 John III ends his reign as Catholic Pope


1568 Dean of St Paul's Cathedral perfects a way to bottle beer


1643 Battle at Roundway Down: Royalists beat parliamentary armies
1787 Congress establishes Northwest Territory (excludes slavery)
1793 Pierre Dupont de Nemours is ordered arrested in Paris on charges of plotting with rebels against the French Revolutionary National Assembly
1794 Robespierre boycotts the Committee of Public Safety and the National Convention after being denounced as a dictator
1832 Source of Mississippi River discovered (Henry R Schoolcraft)
1836 US patent #1 (after 9,957 unnumbered patents), for locomotive wheels
1854 US forces shell & burn San Juan del Norte, Nicaragua
1861 Battle of Corrick's Ford, VA (Carrick's Ford) - Union army takes total control of western Virginia CS20 US53
1862 Battle of Murfreesboro, TN (Forrest's Raid)
1863 Anti-draft mobs lynch blacks in NYC; about 1,000 die
1865 Horace Greeley advises his readers to "Go west young man"
1865 PT Barnum's museum burns down
1868 Oscar J Dunn, former slave, installed as lt governor of Louisiana
1878 The Treaty of Berlin amended the terms of the Treaty of San Stefano, which had ended the Russo-Turkish War of 1877-78.
1898 Guglielmo Marconi patents the radio
1917 Vision of Virgin Mary appeared to children of Fatima, Portugal
1919 Chic White Sox pitcher Carl Mays walks off mound blaming teammates for lack of support afield
1919 Race riots in Longview & Gregg counties Texas
1930 Sarnoff reports in NY Times "TV would be a theater in every home"
1934 Babe Ruth hits HR #700 against Detroit
1936 112ø F (44ø C), Mio, Michigan (state record)
1936 114ø F (46ø C), Wisconsin Dells, Wisc. (state record)
1942 5,000 Jews of Rovno Polish Ukraine, executed by nazis
1942 German occupiers imprison 800 prominent Dutch as hostages
1942 SS shoots 1,500 Jews in Josefov Poland

1943 Greatest tank battle in history ends with Russia's defeat of Germany at Kursk, almost 6,000 tanks take part, 2,900 were lost by Germany

1949 Pope Pius XII excommunicates communist catholics
1960 Democratic Natl convention nominates Sen John F Kennedy for president
1966 Richard Speck, murders 8 nurses in Chicago
1967 Race riots break out in Newark, 27 die
1972 LA Rams (Irsay) & Baltimore Colts (Rosenbloom) swap owners
1975 8.5" (21.6 cm) of rainfall, Dover, Delaware (state record)
1978 Alexander Ginzburg sentenced by Soviet court to 8 years
1985 Yankees retire Roger Maris (#9) & Elston Howard (#32) uniforms
1987 Federal judge throws out Bette Midler's $10 million suit against Ford Motor Co, who used a sound alike voice for their TV commercials
2000 Fiji's coup leaders released their remaining 18 captives, ending a 2-month-old parliamentary hostage crisis.


Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"

France : La Retraite aux Flambeaux/Night Watch day
Japan : Bon Festival or Feast of Lanterns starts
Rhodesia : Founder's Day/Rhode's Day
International Puzzle Day
National Peach Month


Religious Observances
Christian : Festival of Our Lady of Fatima
RC : Commemoration of St Anacletus I, pope (c 76-c 88), martyr
RC : Feast of St Eugenius, bishop of Carthage, confessor
RC : Memorial of St Henry II (the Pious), emperor (opt)


Religious History
1105 Death of Rashi (b.1040), medieval Jewish Bible scholar. His name is a Hebrewacrostic for Rabbi Shelomoh ben Isaac. Rashi was the leading rabbinic commentator in hisday on the Old Testament and Talmud.
1769 Birth of Thomas Kelly, Irish Episcopal clergyman and author of 765 hymns,including 'Praise the Savior, Ye Who Know Him.'
1778 Anglican clergyman and hymnwriter John Newton wrote in a letter: 'It is perhapsthe highest triumph we can obtain over bigotry when we are able to bear with bigotsthemselves.'
1815 President John Adams wrote in a letter: 'The Hebrews have done more to civilizemen than any other nation. If I were an atheist,... I should still believe fate had ordainedthe Jews to be the most essential instrument for civilizing the nations.'
1886 Birth of Father Edward Flanagan, American Catholic parish priest. Believing therewas 'no such thing as a bad boy,' in 1922 he organized Boys Town near Omaha, Nebraska.

Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.


Thought for the day :
"Learning music by reading about it, Is like making love by mail."


Things To Do If You Ever Became An Evil Overlord...
No matter how well it would perform, NEVER construct any sort of machinery which is completely indestructible except for one small and virtually inaccessible vulnerable spot.


PUNishment of the the day...
A chicken crossing the road is poultry in motion


Dumb Laws...
Guelph Ontario Canada...
The city is classified as a no-pee zone.


Fifty Ways To Annoy Osama bin Laden If You're Invited To A Dinner Party At His Secret Afghan Lair...
1. Point out the lice in his beard to make him feel self-conscious.


22 posted on 07/13/2004 7:25:39 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: The Mayor
Morning Mayor...a small, red, clay heart. Inscribed on it in childish scrawl are the words“ I Luv U."

I have a crudely cut wooden heart with similiar words on it that I received from my oldest daughter when she was in grammar school.

23 posted on 07/13/2004 7:25:44 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Talk is cheap because Supply exceeds Demand.)
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To: bentfeather

Good Morning Feather.


24 posted on 07/13/2004 7:26:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Talk is cheap because Supply exceeds Demand.)
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To: Professional Engineer

Morning PE. Somber Flag-O-Gram this morning.


25 posted on 07/13/2004 7:26:41 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Talk is cheap because Supply exceeds Demand.)
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To: SAMWolf

A French SNPE explosive reactive armor (ERA) kit and others are available for use on the BMP-2. However, during dismounted troop movement, ERA would be a hazard

Gee ya think!


26 posted on 07/13/2004 7:27:17 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: SAMWolf
Hi Sam.

You're pretty good at your research my FRiend.

27 posted on 07/13/2004 7:32:41 AM PDT by Aeronaut (Edwards is simply not qualified to be one heartbeat from the presidency.)
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To: Valin
1943 Greatest tank battle in history ends with Russia's defeat of Germany at Kursk, almost 6,000 tanks take part, 2,900 were lost by Germany

One of the intense, pivotal engagements during the Battle of Kursk in July, 1943. German Tiger 1 heavy tanks versus Soviet T34 tanks at extremely close ranges, with high casualties on both sides.

28 posted on 07/13/2004 7:33:15 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Talk is cheap because Supply exceeds Demand.)
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To: Aeronaut

Thanks. Just lucked out and was familiar with the flying pancake. As strange as it looked it did show some promise.


29 posted on 07/13/2004 7:35:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Talk is cheap because Supply exceeds Demand.)
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To: Valin
Gee ya think!

Guess it depends on what you consider the more important asset worth saving, the expensive, important armored unit or the cheap, expendable infantry. ;-)

30 posted on 07/13/2004 7:37:46 AM PDT by SAMWolf (Talk is cheap because Supply exceeds Demand.)
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To: snippy_about_it; All
good morning friends, i'm going to use this means of writing all of you who called, sent me e-mails, private FR messages & other forms of encouragement. (we/i WILL get around to sending PERSONAL thank you messages, but NOT today, as i'm still sleep deprived.

Sandra/duckie is now asleep & i hope she can get 2-4 hours UNinterrupted sleep. (Lord knows she needs it!) she has had NO UNinterrupted sleep since saturday morning. (NOBODY can sleep normally in this place! it just is NOT possible!)!

i'm now up to about 12-16 hours of sleep since 7am saturday morning. (and BOTH of us eating enough, thanks to all who asked about that.)

what a DIFFERENCE some good meds & a caring PT instructor/therapist can make!

duckie is MUCH IMPROVED this AM! (more than you can imagine, after what i wrote last night.)

she walked about 100 feet with her walker about 10AM today & came back to bed SMILING! (told ya'll that she is TOUGH! & bounces back well too.)

IF i can get her HOME sometime today/tonight, where i can take care of her more adequately, & where she can SLEEP in her own bed & eat "familiar things", i believe she will RAPIDLY improve!

continue your prayers. i believe they are a BIG portion of the "turnaround" she's had overnight;i can't explain the improvement better OR any other way!

PRAYERS HELP-maybe more than "modern" medical care!

again, THANKS to ALL of you!

hugs/kisses, duckie & sw

31 posted on 07/13/2004 8:50:43 AM PDT by stand watie (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God. -T. Jefferson)
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To: SAMWolf
and has a capability to make its own smoke screen by injecting diesel fuel into the exhaust manifold.

Say, that'd be a handy option for those folks that tailgate you.

32 posted on 07/13/2004 8:52:40 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Obi Wana hock a luggi)
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To: stand watie

Great news!
I'll take the hugs and kisses from duckie, BUT if it's all the same I think I'll pass on yours. Now don't pout, it's not personal it's just...it doesn't look right, particularly the kisses thing...just doesn't work for me.
:-)


33 posted on 07/13/2004 9:15:36 AM PDT by Valin (Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. It's just that yours is stupid.)
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To: Aeronaut

There's that flying saucer everyone keeps seeing. ;-)


34 posted on 07/13/2004 9:19:03 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: E.G.C.

Morning EGC. How's your dad?


35 posted on 07/13/2004 9:19:22 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: alfa6

Morning alfa6.


36 posted on 07/13/2004 9:19:43 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA

Mmmmmmmmm. Bet you didn't have those on your camping trip!


37 posted on 07/13/2004 9:20:09 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor

Thank you Mayor and good morning.


38 posted on 07/13/2004 9:21:11 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather

There you are, tanker girl Tuesday!


39 posted on 07/13/2004 9:21:45 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor

Hi Mayor

A Childs simplist conveyance of thanks and love empowers the Heart of their Parents.

In Jewish thought...**The Blessing is intigral to the community...part of the strength.

The Blessing is critical too....it needs to be ..when the Fire's of Life are present.

Fire as a symbolism is many things....the perspective of **Outcomes is witnessed.

Nations are forged in Fire...and their peoples.

Allthough their are many dark appearences in America..this is much Light....the Blessing is working...itself a forging fire.

From a hug and a kiss..to a smile and Thankyou....
a war memorial....a medal..and a biography of rememberance.

Some have yielded up their lives in the fire....some survive....but life will never be the same again.

The Hebrews have a word/thought construct for the Fire...
It speaks of Relationship with the Ancient of Days...the power to make and undo.
In relationship is the promise of guidance....and presence.
The Fire comes...it is understood that beyond all personal understanding..the outcome will be Good...for Good.

EIN SOF.....[Fire]- Light without End.

40 posted on 07/13/2004 9:23:05 AM PDT by Light Speed
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