The FReeper Foxhole Remembers The Naval Engagements of 1812 - June 24th, 2004

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[snippy_about_it]

I'd love to visit Oregon once again

Just give us a holler!

[Iris7]

The war of 1812 story has another side from the Navy perspective. The big American frigates were not a technological innovation from the English point of view, but mere "razee", a sort of cut down first rate, a vessel with the upper gun deck not built on. In this point of view the American razees simply out powered the English frigates, which had fewer and less powerful guns, and were much smaller and lighter overall. This technological trade off was well understood by the English, who employed many razee.

There is also the Chesapeake vs. Shannon fight, where English razee utterly dominated and captured American. This event so embarrasses the US Navy that lies are told to this day. The Aubrey - Maturin stories cover the story well from the English - and more accurate - perspective.

Myself, I am embarrassed and chagrined that the United States Navy did not take part in the great victory of Trafalgar under the greatest fighting admiral of all time, Horatio Nelson. Napoleon and his ilk are, were, in no way different from Hitler and Stalin, or Bill and Hillary, and there is on difference amongst the character of their supporters, either.

Been on vacation for a few days, sorry to be so late in responding!

Stone enthusiast on the War with Napoleon here. That brilliant man was very dangerous. The Germans, Russians, and British paid a high price. Much, much to be learned. The birth of modern war.

[Iris7]

I AM NOT saying that the wars with Napoleon were more important historically that the War of 1861-65. Napoleon corresponds with Leftism, Lincoln with Modernity.

Leftism has been with us always, lamentably. Modernity is modern, "The New Prometheus", as Mary Shelley put it in the title of her famous book, the book we usually call "Frankenstein".

[E.G.C.]

BTTT!!!!!!!

[Samwise]

Is the plane/engine 40 sized?

I am told that it's .4 (which they tell me is the same as 40).

[Samwise]

I'll make sure to show those to Hobbit Lass when she wakes up. I'll also forward them to Hubby, so he can see them.

BTW, the recognize the PVC frames. We have those hanging from our garage ceiling too. :^)

[Samwise]

OK, so maybe I shouldn't have shown this thread to Hubby. After being out of town for most of the week, he spent a great deal of time researching the RC. That'll teach me.

Oh well. I thought he would like it, but he really got excited about it. He's taking his laptop to the next club meeting so he can share the video with the guys (and one Hobbit lass). In case anyone is interested, here is some of the stuff he found about the B-52 RC.


The B52 has flown!!
Gordon has made three flights so far and is in the process of gaining CAA exemption.

Gordon's B52 project with 8 MW54 engines

MW54 Engine performance and statistics
The development of the FADEC for use with the MW54 provides the lightest, smallest, and the best system currently available, whether in manual start version or auto start version.
Bearings and balance.
The engine needs accurate balancing and the rotating parts are made to exceptionally close tolerances. To get the best out of an engine factory balancing is recommended. However, many have successfully made and flown their engines having assembled and balanced them.
Idle and spool up
The engine is exceptionally smooth, particularly if factory balanced. Spool up is super quick over 75,000 rpm. The idle setting can be 30-40,000 once past 75,000 the engine accelerates very quickly and smoothly.
Rev limit
The key upper limit on engine performance is the maximum revs. The limit is 160,000 rpm this represents 1.36 bar or 20 psi (now revised see below) case pressure. The shaft, compressor and bearings can stand higher rpm, but 160,000 rpm is the max stress for the wheel. One of the prototypes has been run to considerably higher speed than this to determine the safety margin that builders must not exceed.
Temperature limit
We suggest that the temp at max speed should not exceed 690C. (This means that at lower rpm the temperature will be 588C.)
Thrust
The original MW54 produced 12 lbs and the Mk 2 Kit is rated at this thrust and the test data set out on the Excel sheet is now a bit dated. Temperatures are now lower.
The MW54 Mk 3 kit is an evolution of the original engine and produces 14 lbs thrust at the same revs but higher case pressure.
The MW54 Super Sport represents the state of the art for these small engines and produces 18 lbs thrust at the same revs and slightly higher temperature but higher case pressure.

1) Kit with hand starter £1199 or ~ $2220
2) Kit with onboard starter and Eco ECU £1250 or ~ $2315
3) Kit with full Autostart £1399 or ~ $2590
4) Ready built with electric start and Eco ECU £1450 or ~ $2850
5) Ready built with full Autostart £1599 or ~ $2960


The most remarkable has got to be Gordon Nichols Boeing B52 to 117 th scale, powered by no less than eight Wren gas turbines, sponsored by Inwood Models, as well as the go ahead Wren company. This is an exciting £20,000+ (or ~ $37,000) project.

A jumbo-sized model airplane: Not content to build just your average little balsa-wood kit plane, Gordon Nichols and a few friends put together a 1/7th-scale model of a U.S. Air Force B-52 bomber, complete with eight turbine engines, for a total flying weight of about 300 pounds. And it flies just like any other radio-controlled model - although it's a whole lot louder, and needs a lot bigger place to land.

[SAMWolf]

Been on vacation for a few days, sorry to be so late in responding!

Hope you enjoyed your vacation. Thanks for your insight.

[SAMWolf]

You should have known better than to show Hubby that B-52. ;-)