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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - German Tank Destroyers - Apr. 27th, 2004
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Posted on 04/27/2004 12:00:23 AM PDT by SAMWolf



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Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.


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German Tank Destroyers




First Generation Tank Destroyers


The German Army entered the Russian campaign with out-gunned and under-armored vehicles, when compared with the Russian tank designs of the T-34 medium and KV I heavy tank. Even the 50mm anti-tank gun -the best anti-tank gun then used by German tanks and anti-tank troops- were no match for the Russian tanks. The Panther and Tiger represented the long-term answer to the problems of the Russian front, but a more immediate and effective short-term solution was necessary. Any weapon of less than 75mm was now inadequate, and although the PzKpfw IV and the StuG were armed with the 75mm L/24 gun, this gun fired high-explosive shells at low velocity which were unable to penetrate the armor of the new Russian tanks.


A Marder I on French Hotchkiss chassis


Obsolete tank chassis provided an ideal mounting for the first generation of tank destroyers, as could those of a number of captured French tanks. In this way, by mounting different versions of the German 75mm Pak 40 anti-tank guns and captured Russian 76.2mm anti-tank guns (re-chambered to take German 75mm ammunition) in fixed, open-topped superstructures, it proved possible to deliver quantities of simple but well-armed tank-destroyers very quickly, so restoring the technical balance on the Eastern Front. However, the crew had little protection in the fighting compartment, and due to the high silhouette it was even vulnerable to conventional artillery.


Infantry on a Pz.Jg. I in France, 1940


The majority of these vehicles were named Marder (Marten), a family of six Panzerjägern which were built between 1942 and 1945.The Marder I was based on the chassis of the French Lorraine-tractor, and carried a complete 75mm Pak/40 gun. Only 184 of these vehicles were built, as after a short period they were all quickly removed from the Russian front back to France since they did not perform as expected. Also other chassis from French vehicles were used to carry the Pak 40, like the Renault R35 and the Hotchkiss H39. 358 PzKpfw IBs were converted into Panzerjäger I self-propelled guns armed with the Czech 47mm Pak L/43.


A Panzerjäger I in Russia


The Marder II was based on the chassis of the PzKpfw II and was built in two versions; the first with a 75mm Pak 40 mounted on the front of the open-topped chassis, and a second with captured 76.2mm Russian guns, since the Germans had captured a large number of Russian guns in the initial stage of the war against Russia. The Russian gun was placed further backwards on the chassis. They were used in North Africa and on the Russian front in later 1941 for a short period.Completion of the German Pak 40/2 resulted in mass-production of the Marder II, but production stopped in February 1943 by order of Hitler who intended to concentrate efforts on the manufacture of the Wespe self-propelled howitzer. In total 730 of the first type (December 1941-June 1942) and about 150 of the Russian type were built.


Marder II with the face of the Kohlenklau (Coal Thief), a German music hall character
I had a model of this vehicle


Following production of the self-propelled artillery vehicle Bison, the chassis of the PzKpfw 38(t) was also used to mount a re-chambered 76.2mm Pak or a 75mm Pak 40/3. The Marder III was the best design of the Marder series, and included three versions. The first version (H) was armed with a 75mm Pak 40 which was placed on the front of the vehicle. This turned out to be instable, and after production of 418 vehicles a second version (M) included a more backwards fighting compartment. From this version 799 were produced before production ceased in May 1944. The third version (R) had a Russian 76.2mm gun placed in the centre of the chassis. Many of the Marder III vehicles served in North Africa with the Africa Korps.


Marder II D in Russia


To improve the mobility of the famous 88mm gun, chassis components of the PzKpfw IV Ausf. F were used for a heavy tank-destroyer known as the Sd.Kfz. 164 Hornisse, later called Nashorn (Rhino), as insect names were used for armored artillery only. The Nashorn entered service in 1943. Despite open-topped, light armor and difficult concealment, 473 of these powerful armed vehicles were built. Production was continued with the similar looking Hummel, also based on the pzKpfw IV chassis. In order to make room for the gun crew, the motor was placed in the front. These designs were however regarded as being of a stop-gap nature, and plans were made for a second generation of tank-destroyers.


White-washed Nashorn vehicles




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To: SAMWolf; All
I just heard a commercial for a great Art gallery.
(I have no affiliation whatsoever, just heard it on the radio)

Eyes of the Wild

They have a LARGE selection of military art work, including numerous prints of aviation art that has been signed by the people who the print is about.

For instance, they have a print of Pappy Boyington standing by his Corsair, and they say it's signed by at least 9 members of the "Black sheep Squadron".

21 posted on 04/27/2004 6:38:23 AM PDT by Johnny Gage (God Bless President Bush, God Bless our Troops, and GOD BLESS AMERICA!)
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To: Johnny Gage
Good stuff!
22 posted on 04/27/2004 6:54:59 AM PDT by Valin (Hating people is like burning down your house to kill a rat)
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To: radu
Morning Radu. Nice "United We Stabd" graphic.
23 posted on 04/27/2004 7:48:41 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: Iris7
Morning Iris7.

Most of the country knew we were fighting against Evil in the Nazis and Imperial Japan. I fear that today most people don't see the Evil in Islam and don't really understand the threat it poses to Western civilization.
24 posted on 04/27/2004 7:54:17 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: E.G.C.
Morning E.G.C. Looks like another warm sunny day here.
25 posted on 04/27/2004 7:54:58 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: The Mayor
Morning Mayor. Extra large cup of coffee needed today.
26 posted on 04/27/2004 7:56:07 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: GailA
Morning GailA.

Enjoy your vacation! Going anywhere special?

P.S. Who stole the hashbrowns from the breakfast plate?
27 posted on 04/27/2004 7:57:36 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: Valin
1805 US Marines attack shores of Tripoli

The first US war on Islamic terrorists, and france also sat that one out and paid tribute to the Arabs instead.


28 posted on 04/27/2004 8:01:51 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Thanks PE.

So little left to that flag and yet it means so much. Hard to keep the tears out of my eyes when I see a flag like that because I know what the price was for it.
29 posted on 04/27/2004 8:04:18 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: SAMWolf; GailA; Valin
P.S. Who stole the hashbrowns from the breakfast plate?

I don't know about Valin but I didn't.

30 posted on 04/27/2004 8:04:38 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather
Morning Feather. Showed up in armor this morning I see. :-)
31 posted on 04/27/2004 8:05:01 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: Johnny Gage
Thanks Johnny. Have that one bookmarked. Good selection on this site, most sites specialize in the subject and it's nice to see it all in one place.
32 posted on 04/27/2004 8:07:19 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Morning Snippy.
33 posted on 04/27/2004 8:08:31 AM PDT by SAMWolf (My mind not only wanders, sometimes it leaves completely.)
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To: Professional Engineer
Great story about the D-Day Flag PE. I'm so very glad it is being returned to the Navy.

34 posted on 04/27/2004 8:10:49 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: radu
Good morning radu.
35 posted on 04/27/2004 8:11:49 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: The Mayor
Good morning Mayor. We're having a heat wave. Upper 80's and all sunshine.
36 posted on 04/27/2004 8:12:37 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: GailA
Good morning Gail, dang that breakfast looks good. Have a wonderful restful vacation.
37 posted on 04/27/2004 8:13:23 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
Thought for the day :
"If you're not outraged, you're not paying attention."


Ain't that the truth!
38 posted on 04/27/2004 8:20:24 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: bentfeather
Good morning tanker feather!
39 posted on 04/27/2004 8:21:15 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Johnny Gage
Thanks Johnny, they have some pretty artwork.
40 posted on 04/27/2004 8:23:21 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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