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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - Stuart M3 and M5 Light Tank - Apr. 20th, 2004
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Posted on 04/20/2004 12:00:02 AM PDT by SAMWolf



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Keep our Troops forever in Your care

Give them victory over the enemy...

Grant them a safe and swift return...

Bless those who mourn the lost.
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for all those serving their country at this time.


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General Stuart Light Tank


The Stuart was named after the legendary Major-General J E B "Jeb" Stuart who fought on the Confederate side in the American Civil War. He was a cavalry commander with few equals.



The US M3 Light Tank was named "General Stuart" by the British after they took possession of the first lend lease M3s in June of 1941. First used in the Western Desert during the second day of the Crusader offensive (to relieve the Australians at Tobruk), the Stuart was sturdy and reliable and although its 37mm gun was small, it was no worse than the Crusader's 2-pounder.



After their experience with the M3 Light Tank, the Americans designed the M3A1 to remedy some of the short-comings of the earlier model, and the changes began with the first new vehicles in May of '42. A Westinghouse gyro-stabilizer and an Oilgear hydraulic traversing mechanism had been tested successfully in some of the later M3 tanks, so this system was incorporated with a new turret basket. The basket had to be fairly high to clear all the equipment down on the hull floor, but it provided the gunner and loader with seats and a place to put their feet. The gunner's turret cupola was deleted on the same improved turret that had been introduced late in M3 production and the hatches and viewing devices up on the roof were changed.


1941: The Philippine jungle is the setting for this U.S. Army M3 Stuart light tank


The radial engined M3A3 Stuart Tank was produced by American Car and Foundry during Sept 1942 till Sept 1943. Of 3427 produced, 2433 went to the Allies receiving Lease Lend (mainly to Britain but some to China), the rest to the US Army. Powered by a 7cylinder Continental radial power unit, the tank weighs 32,400lbs ready to fight. Unlike it's successor, the more common M5A1 (with more economic twin V8 Cadillacs and hydromatic transmission) fuel consumption is about I gallon per mile. A few were built with Guiberson Radial diesel engines(- unfortunately it seems only a few examples of this engine survives)


M3 Stuart Tank of the 192nd or 194th GHQ Tank Battalion on the move in Luzon, 1941 - 42


The "Stuart" (the nickname is British) is the light tank of World War II with the greatest production number. For this type of vehicles, the US proved superior to the Germans (who dropped light tanks from 1942 onwards), the British (who did the same in 1940) and even the Russians (who would try for a longer time but would not turn out anything good).



The Stuart was not only fast and well-armed for its category, but it proved mechanically reliable and earned the nickmane "Honey" from its crews. Its star started to fade only in 1945, when a more advanced machine (the Chaffee)came up.
Other designation(s): Honey

M3



An Italian officer is examining a Stuart M3 destroyed in Tunisia (the turret is directed to the rear). The cupola allow to distinguish that model from the other versions of the Stuart


Designated Stuart I by the British and Stuart II if it was equiped with a diesel engine. That tank had its first war experience even before the USA entered the war. The first units, acquired by the British, arrived in Africa in July 1941. Their mobility, robustness and easy maintenance earned them the nickname "Honey". Less powerful than the British Cruiser tanks, a bit short on autonomy, they proved nonetheless well-adapted to their role as a light tank.


M3 Stuart Tank of the 192nd or 194th GHQ Tank Battalion on Luzon, 1941 -42


Identification: Looks like the last version of the M2, but its idler is trailing and the two bogies are less spaced. The mantlet is different too. At the rear, the armor covers the exhausts. Compared to the M3A1 'Stuart', there is a cupola for the tank commandant.

M3A1




Designated Stuart III by the British for the standard model and Stuart IV when reengined with a diesel Guiberson. The Stuart was modified to take into account the teachings of its first combat experiences. The gun stabilization system is now standard while the sponson MG's are blanked off: the inside volume was at such a premium that it could not be used up by less useful accessories. The overall height is decreased thanks to the removal of the cupola.


At a Roadblock on the Road to Bataan


After being adopted enthusiastically by their British crews, the Stuart (M-3 or Stuart M5)stayed in service until 1945 as the standard light tank of the US Army. In total, almost 20 000 were built. Identification: It differs from the M-3 by the removal of the cupola. The sponson MG's are blanked off (it was already the case with many M-3 units)

M3A2


Was going to be made welded like A1 but never produced.

M3A3




Called Stuart V by the British. Put into production to integrate the improvements brought by the Stuart M5 into the M-3 series, while retaining the Continental engine. When experience had proved that the engine of the M-5 was more flexible than the Continental, the line of the M-3 was stopped



Identification: An overhang appears at the rear of the turret. The hatches of the pilot and of the gunner are on the top of the hull and no more forward. The side MG in the hull disappears altogether. The front and side armor plate are straight

M5




Dubbed Stuart VI by the British, just as the M5A1 'Stuart'. The lack of available aircraft engines Continental allowed General Motors to propose the coupling of two Cadillac engines to replace it. So appeared the M-5, which preceded the last version of the M-3, the M3A3 'Stuart'.


7th US Army entering Neustadt a.d. Aisch, Germany on April 6, 1945.


Identification: The stepped up engine covers at the rear of the hull distinguishes the M-5 from the M3A3. It had no turret overhang like the M5A1

T8




Reconnaissance vehicle consisting in the hull of a M3A3 'Stuart', of which the turret was removed and replaced by a heavy MG. It was used by the US during the war and some European nations after the war.

M-8 HMC




A short 7.5 cm howitzer replaced the 3.7 cm gun in the turret of the Stuart M5. It was used for the close support of infantry.


The short 7.5 cm howitzer and the hull without MG are clearly visible on this picture of the M-8. The other external features are those of the M5


Identification: The short 7.5 cm howitzer leaves no room for confusion with the basis M-5. The hull MG disappears. For the rest, both models are identical

Medium Tank M7



Medium Tank M7. Its running gear looks like the one of the Stuart, while the rest of the silhouette is closer to a Sherman


The prototype (T-7) was an attempt to rearm the Stuart with a 75 mm gun. It was reclassified as a medium tank and then dropped because it would have squandered ressources needed for the Sherman.

Other designation(s): T7



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To: snippy_about_it
Darn! Another one!! A Quad 20mm Flakgun mounted on a Stuart.
121 posted on 04/20/2004 11:38:24 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Heard the one about the dyslexic devil worshiper? He sold his soul to Santa.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
That's a scary looking beast with that quad 20mm.
122 posted on 04/20/2004 11:40:11 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.

Thanks for all the interior and technical data on the Stuart.

I believe the Stuart was the oly light tank to be manufactured and in use for the entire war.

I'm afraid our tank has arrived, snippy, so if you gentlemen will excuse us, we'll be spanken.

ROTFL!! Who's Spanken whom?

123 posted on 04/20/2004 11:41:13 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Heard the one about the dyslexic devil worshiper? He sold his soul to Santa.)
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To: GATOR NAVY
It was deadly against ground troops.
124 posted on 04/20/2004 11:42:23 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Heard the one about the dyslexic devil worshiper? He sold his soul to Santa.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Flakvierling 38 20mm Antiaircraft Gun

The Flakvierling 38 is a German antiaircraft gun used in World War II. It consists of four 20mm Flak 38s set on a quadruple mounting with collapsing seats, folding handles, and ammunition racks. The mount has a triangular base with a jack at each leg for leveling the gun. The tracker traverses and elevates the mount manually using two handwheels. The gun is fired by a set of two foot pedals--each of which fires two diametrically opposite Flak 38s--and can be operated either automatically of semi-automatically. It was widely used against low-flying Allied aircraft and was often installed in flak towers and other permanent mounts.

SPECIFICATIONS:
Caliber: 20mm (.79 in.)
Barrel length: 51 1/2 in. including flash hider
Weight: 3,200 lbs.
Height: 10 ft. 1 in. (guns elevated)
Max. vertical range: 4,012 yards
Rate of fire: 800 rounds/min. practical; 1,400 rounds/min. cyclic
Magazine capacity: 20 rounds
Storage capacity: 16 magazines (320 rounds)
125 posted on 04/20/2004 11:45:34 PM PDT by GATOR NAVY
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To: GATOR NAVY

I've seen film footage of a Sdkfz7 mounted Flakvierling 38 used against ground targets in Italy. It puts out a lot of rounds quickly.

126 posted on 04/20/2004 11:53:09 PM PDT by SAMWolf (Heard the one about the dyslexic devil worshiper? He sold his soul to Santa.)
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To: PhilDragoo
I'm afraid our tank has arrived, snippy, so if you gentlemen will excuse us, we'll be spanken.

LOL. We'll always have Paris.

127 posted on 04/21/2004 12:05:24 AM PDT by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Enjoyed your post. Like the technical detail. Like the humor!
128 posted on 04/21/2004 1:51:18 AM PDT by Iris7 (If "Iris7" upsets or intrigues you, see my Freeper home page for a nice explanatory essay.)
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To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!
129 posted on 04/21/2004 3:07:23 AM PDT by E.G.C.
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To: jigsaw
Welcome.
*chuckle*
Haven't been paying much attention to taglines lately.
So I'm gonna go hunt taglines in a bit.
130 posted on 04/21/2004 4:57:40 AM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: "Now, do you think we have anything more than BOINNGGG?!" -dating advice movie.)
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To: Darksheare
Haven't been paying much attention to taglines lately.
So I'm gonna go hunt taglines in a bit.

Been tied up with dating advice movies, eh?   ;-)

131 posted on 04/21/2004 5:13:40 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Troops.)
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To: jigsaw
Yup.
ALOT of tagline material in those old 50's nanny-ism movies.
Just wish I could get a good quote from Highway of Death.
That 50's movie short for driver's ed class is a goldmine of material, if one can find the vid to see it.
(Heck, almost ALL the old educational movie shorts have tagline potential in them..)
132 posted on 04/21/2004 6:01:52 AM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: "Now, do you think we have anything more than BOINNGGG?!" -dating advice movie.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Yup.
There was a band called Soul Coughing -they had a song called "Circles"...
Lyriocs were somethign to the effect of "I don't need to walk around in circles, walk around in circles, .." (they kinda mumbled the last part of that line so it came out sounding like 'wander-round nyeeeeh')
133 posted on 04/21/2004 6:03:32 AM PDT by Darksheare (Fortune for the day: "Now, do you think we have anything more than BOINNGGG?!" -dating advice movie.)
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