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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles the LST -- Landing Ships, Tank - April 9th, 2004
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Posted on 04/09/2004 5:23:25 AM PDT by snippy_about_it

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TANK LANDING SHIPS (LST)

"Large Slow Target"
The British evacuation from Dunkirk in 1940 demonstrated to the Admiralty that the Allies needed relatively large, ocean-going ships capable of shore -to-shore delivery of tanks and other vehicles in amphibious assaults upon the continent of Europe. As an interim measure, three medium-sized tankers, built to pass over the restrictive bars of Lake Maracaibo, Venezuela, were selected for conversion becau se of their shallow draft. Bow doors and ramps were added to these ships which became the first tank landing ships (LST's). They later proved their worth during the invasion of Algeria in 1942, but their bluff bows made for inadequate speed and pointed up the need for an all-new design incorporating a sleeker hull.
At their first meeting at the Argentia Conference in August 1941, President Roosevelt and Prime Minister Churchill confirmed the Admiralty's views. In November 1941, a small delega tion from the Admiralty arrived in the United States to pool ideas with the Navy's Bureau of Ships with regard to development of the required ship. During this meeting, it was decided that the Bureau of Ships would design these vessels.
Within a few days, John Niedermair of the Bureau of Ships sketched out an awkward looking ship that proved to be the basic design for the more than 1,000 LST's which would be built during World War II. To meet the conflicting requirements of deep draft for ocean travel and shallow draft for beaching, the ship was designed with a large ballast system that could be filled for ocean passage and pumped out for beaching operations. The rough sketch was sent to Britain on 5 November 1941 and accepted immediately. The Admiralty then requested the United States to build 200 LST's for the Royal Navy under the terms of lend-lease.
The preliminary plans initially called for an LST 280 feet in length; but, in January 1942, the Bureau of Ships discarded these d rawings in favor of specifications for a ship 290 feet long. Within a month, final working plans were developed which further stretched the overall length to 328 feet and called for a 50-foot beam and minimum draft of three feet 9 1/2 inches. This scheme distributed the ship's weight over a greater area enabling her to ride higher in the water when in landing trim. The LST could carry a 2,100-ton load of tanks and vehicles. The larger dimensions also permitted the designers to increase the width of the bow door opening and ramp from 12 to 14 feet and thus accommodate most Allied vehicles. Provisions were made for the satisfactory ventilation of the tank space while the tank motors were running, and an elevator was provided to lower vehicles from the main deck to the tank deck for disembarking. By January 1942, the first scale model of the LST had been built and was undergoing tests at the David Taylor Model Basin in Washington, D.C.
In three separate acts dated 6 February 1942, 26 May 1943, an d 17 December 1943, Congress provided the authority for the construction of LST's along with a host of other auxiliaries, destroyer escorts, and assorted landing craft. The enormous building program quickly gathered momentum. Such a high priority was assigned to the construction of LST's that the keel of an aircraft carrier, previously laid in the dock, was hastily removed to make place for several LST's to be built in her stead. The keel of the first LST was laid down on 10 June 1942 at Newport News, Va. ; and the first standardized LST's were floated out of their building dock in October. Twenty-three were in commission by the end of 1942.
The LST building program was unique in several respects. As soon as the basic design had been developed , contracts were let and construction was commenced in quantity before the completion of a test vessel. Preliminary orders were rushed out verbally or by telegrams, telephone, and air mail letters. The ordering of certain materials actually preceded the completion of design work. While many heavy equipment items such as main propulsion machinery were furnished directly by the Navy, the balance of the procurement was handled centrally by the Material Coordinating Agency -- an adjunct of the Bureau of Ships -- so that the numerous builders in the program would not have to bid against one another. Through vigorous follow-up action on materials ordered, the agency made possible the completion of construction schedules in record time.
The need for LST's was urgent, and the program enjoyed a high priority throughout the war. Since most shipbuilding activities were located in coastal yards and were largely used for construction of large, deep-draft ships, new construction facilities were established along inland waterways. In some instances, heavy industry plants such as steel fabrication yards were converted for LST construction. This posed the problem of getting the completed ships from the inland building yards to deep water. The chief obstacles were bridges. The Navy successfully undertook the modification of bridges and, through a "Ferry Command" of Navy crews, transported the newly constructed ships to coastal ports for fitting out. The success of these "cornfield" shipyards of the Middle West was a revelation to the long-established shipbuilders on the coasts. Their contribution to the LST building program was enormous. Of the 1,051 LST's built during World War II, 670 were constructed by five major inland builders.
By 1943, the construction time for an LST had been reduced to four months; and, by the end of the war, it had been cut to two months. Considerable effort was expended to hold the ship's design constant; but, by mid-1943, operating experience led to the incorporation of certain changes in the new ships. These modifications included: the replacing of the elevator by a ramp from the main deck to the tank deck, an increase in armament, and the addition of a distilling plant to make potable water. The main deck was strengthened to accommodate a fully-equipped landing craft, tank (LCT).
 LST launching LCT
From their combat debut in the Solomons in June 1943 until the end of the hostilities in August 1945, the LST's performed a vital service in World War II. They participated in the invasions of Sicily, Italy, Normandy, and southern france in the European Theater and were an essential element in the island-hopping campaigns in the Pacific which culminated in the liberation of the Philippines and the capture of Iwo Jima and Okinawa.
The LST proved to be a remarkably versatile ship. A number of them were converted to become landing craft repair ships (ARL). In this design, the bow ramp and doors were removed, and the bow was sealed. Derricks, booms, and winches were added to haul damaged landing craft on board for repairs, and blacksmith, machine, and electrical workshops were provided on the main deck and tank deck.
Another successful conversion was the LST "Mother Ship." This version of the standard LST hull had two Quonset huts erected on the main deck to accommodate 40 officers. Bunks on the tank deck berthed an additional 196 men. A bake shop and 16 refrigeration boxes for fresh provisions augmented the facilities normally provided the crew. Four extra distilling units were added, and the ballast tanks were converted for storage of fresh water.
Thirty-eight LST's were converted to serve as small hospital ships. They supplemented the many standard LST's which removed casualties from the beach following the landing of their cargo of tanks and vehicles. For example, on D-day, LST's brought 41,035 wounded men back across the English Channel from the Normandy beaches. Other LST's, provided with extra cranes and handling gear, were used exclusively for replenishing ammunition. They possessed a special advantage in this role, as their size permitted two or three LST's to go simultaneously alongside an anchored battleship or cruiser to accomplish replenishment more rapidly than standard ammunition ships. In the latter stages of World War II, some LST's were even fitted with flight decks from which small observation planes were sent up during amphibious operations.
 Low tide at Normandy
Throughout the war, LST's demonstrated a remarkable capacity to absorb punishment and survive. Despite the sobriquet, "Large Slow Target," which was applied to them by irreverent crew members, the LST's suffered few losses in proportion to their number and the scope of their operations.Their brilliantly conceived structural arrangement provided unusual strength and buoyancy. Although the LST was considered a valuable target by the enemy, only 26 were lost due to enemy action, and a mere 13 were the victims of weather, reef, or accident.
A total of 1,152 LST's were contracted for in the great naval building program of World War II, but 101 were cancelled in the fall of 1942 because of shifting construction priorities. 0f 1,051 actually constructed, 113 LST's were transferred to Great Britain under the terms of lend-lease, and four more were turned over to the Greek Navy. Conversions to other ship types with different hull designations accounted for 116.
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To: Valin
And the lesson we learned from this is, don't take a large warship into a narrow fjord.LOL! That's exactly what I told Snippy this morning when I posted it. Great minds...
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posted on
04/09/2004 11:03:27 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
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To: GATOR NAVY
Thanks Gator Navy for sharing your personal experiences with us. I heard LST's were one of the worst ships to be on in heavy seas.
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posted on
04/09/2004 11:04:45 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
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To: GATOR NAVY
I should have read ahead, thanks for confirming that for me.
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posted on
04/09/2004 11:05:17 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
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To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.
Oh, I thought you said LSD--
LOL!
Nice to see the Foxhole guys are always looking for new recruits for Snippy's BicycleSpankenTruppen.
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posted on
04/09/2004 11:07:06 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
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To: PhilDragoo
Thanks Phil. I was unaware that they had come up with a new Class of LST after the war.
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posted on
04/09/2004 11:09:43 PM PDT
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SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf; PhilDragoo; snippy_about_it
I was unaware that they had come up with a new Class of LST after the war.You put in a pic of one. This is a stern aspect of a NEWPORT. The anchor I referred to is there. It had a 1100 ft of wire cable connected to a powerful winch for retracting the ship from the beach. The sterngate opened to the tank deck, which ran the length of the ship. There were turntables fore and aft. At the forward end there was a ramp that came down from the main deck to lead up to the bow ramp for unloading.
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; Professional Engineer
Hello.
Starting sometime later today, I will be offline for roughly a week.
(10 days.)
So I'll play semi-'catch-up' here, before wandering off into the evening mists for a few days.
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posted on
04/10/2004 5:07:27 AM PDT
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Darksheare
(Fortune for the day: I may or may not actually be scarier in real life, but I play it on TV!)
To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
04/10/2004 5:57:13 AM PDT
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E.G.C.
To: Darksheare
Enjoy your vacation. Take pictures!
To: Professional Engineer
I'm not going anywhere, everyone else is.
I'm holding the fort for the time being, but the main machine will be down for the whole time.
*sigh*
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posted on
04/10/2004 7:20:29 AM PDT
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Darksheare
(Fortune for the day: I may or may not actually be scarier in real life, but I play it on TV!)
To: Darksheare
You have fun and be careful, no flamethrowers in the house, no explosives and no rail guns!
We'll miss ya and Snippy and I will try to keep everyone from dumping their empty cans in your Foxhole.
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posted on
04/10/2004 8:13:15 AM PDT
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SAMWolf
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To: SAMWolf
Thanks SAM, I just wanted to remember them on April 9th. My Military history instructor was a Bataan Death March survivor.
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posted on
04/10/2004 9:24:23 AM PDT
by
SwinneySwitch
(He is risen, just like He said!)
To: GATOR NAVY
Thanks for your input GN. My Dad was in the Army in WW2 Pacific theater, in an amphibious outfit, Amtrack wave leader, I think they were they water buffalo variety. Said he spent a lot of time on LSTs.
I'm doing an Army scrapbook for him. To add a little bit to it, you being Navy, wonder how the Navy and Army interacted onboard LSTs. I suspect you have a few good stories to tell along those lines.
To: sasportas
Sorry, all my experience with troops is with Marines. I don't think the Navy has carried Army troops in any quantities since Vietnam. Heavy equipment, yes, but even that's carried by Military Sealift Command ships manned by civilians. But the troops go by air.
We did carry a small Army det on of my ships once. We put a MLRS vehicle on the flight deck and they practiced receiving fire missions while we cruised off the coast. There was some confusion passing the ship's position at times because they used grid coordinates and we used latitude and longitude.
To: snippy_about_it
Thank you for profiling the LST. A subject close to my heart, just came across this thread today. I have bookmarked this thread. My Dad served aboard LST 568 during WW2. Below is a photo of my Dad during that time. This photo was sent to me by another Sailor that served with my Dad. I was able to contact some of my Dad's shipmates and they are wonderful men. Sent me many letters and photos.
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posted on
05/30/2004 7:58:08 PM PDT
by
deadhead
(God Bless Our Troops and Veterans Bush-Cheney '04)
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