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The FReeper Foxhole - CholeraJoe visits the USS Missouri & USS Arizona Memorial - Feb. 29th, 2004
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Posted on 02/29/2004 4:51:26 AM PST by snippy_about_it
Lord,
Keep our Troops forever in Your care
Give them victory over the enemy...
Grant them a safe and swift return...
Bless those who mourn the lost. .
FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer for all those serving their country at this time.
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USS Missouri joins Arizona on 'Battleship Row'
New home for 'Mighty Mo'
March 7 1999
HONOLULU -- The USS Arizona -- sitting solitary, silent and hallowed on Battleship Row for almost 60 years -- is not alone anymore.
The battered ship, resting on the bottom of Pearl Harbor, has become a national symbol, the sunken memorial to the Americans who died during the Japanese attack on Oahu and Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941. It is the most sacred U.S. Navy monument on Earth, the final grave for the 1,177 sailors and Marines who perished aboard during the attack.
Now, anchored near the Arizona is the USS Missouri, the second most-famous battleship of World War II, official designation BB-63.
Like the Arizona, the Missouri sits next to a pier at Ford Island in the middle of Pearl Harbor. For the "Mighty Mo" -- the ship's famous nickname -- a berth in Pearl Harbor marks the end of an illustrious career that spanned more than a half-century and service in three wars.
Today, the Missouri's huge 16-inch guns are silent, pointing symbolically toward the Arizona. It is poetic that these two U.S. warships should end up next to each other. The Arizona was sunk at the beginning of the U.S.-Japanese conflict, and it was aboard the Missouri that the Japanese signed the formal surrender ending World War II four years later.
On Jan. 29, in ceremonies aboard ship, the Missouri was officially opened to the public as a floating museum -- 55 years to the day after it was launched. Along with the Arizona and the other Navy relic of the war anchored at Pearl Harbor -- the submarine Bowfin -- the Missouri is fated to become part of one of the major tourist attractions in Hawaii.
It was a long voyage from Brooklyn, where the Missouri was built, to Pearl Harbor, half an Earth away. The Mighty Mo was the last battleship launched by the United States, entering service in 1944. It was christened by Margaret Truman, the daughter of the newly elected vice president, Harry Truman, a former U.S. senator from Missouri. After going through the Panama Canal to the Pacific, it was involved in the invasions of Okinawa and Iwo Jima and attacks on the Japanese homeland.
On Sept. 2, 1945, a month after the U.S. atomic attacks at Nagasaki and Hiroshima, the Japanese formally surrendered aboard the Missouri. The site of that ceremony -- now called the "Surrender Deck" -- is marked by permanent plaques and is a major stop on public tours of the ship. (An elevator has been installed to allow wheelchair access to the Surrender Deck and other areas of the ship.)
The end of World War II also saw the end of the "Battleship Age" and the beginning of the "Carrier Age," meaning the demise of most of the Navy's battleships.
Most were scrapped, a few were mothballed, some were used as targets for U.S. atomic tests. Among those saved -- just in case of future need -- were the Missouri and its sister ships -- the New Jersey, the Iowa and the Wisconsin.
By 1950, the Missouri was the only U.S. battleship on active duty, and in September of that year was involved in the invasion of Inchon at the beginning of the Korean War. Later, the other three Iowa-class ships were also called back for the war.
In 1955, the Missouri was decommissioned and put into the mothball fleet at the Puget Sound Naval Shipyard at Bremerton, Wash. While there, it was visited by as many as 180,000 tourists a year.
There it sat until 1986, when the Navy (and President Ronald Reagan) decided to create a 600-ship navy and recommissioned the Missouri and several other battleships. The recommissioning ceremonies took place in San Francisco on May 10, 1986.
San Francisco desperately wanted the Missouri home-ported at Hunters Point, but in the end, the ship ended up at Long Beach.
In 1990, after Iraq invaded Kuwait, the Missouri -- along with the Wisconsin -- was sent to the Persian Gulf. Near the beginning of the hostilities -- Jan. 17, 1991 -- the Missouri fired Tomahawk cruise missiles at Iraqi targets, and in February, fired its 16-inch guns for the first time since Korea.
The Mighty Mo fired its weapons in anger for the last time at targets in Ra's al Khafji, Saudi Arabia, occupied by the Iraqis. The ship fired 209 rounds from its 16-inch guns, which are capable of sending a 2,000-pound shell 23 miles.
The Missouri was decommissioned again in 1992. A number of U.S. cities wanted to claim the battleship, but in the end, the Navy donated it to the USS Missouri Memorial Association in Honolulu in 1998.
There has been some resistance to putting the Missouri near the Arizona, with some veterans and Navy personnel feeling that the Arizona, as a sacred site, should not share honors on Battleship Row with another ship, no matter how famous. (The name "Battleship Row" came about because the Navy's World War II Pacific-based battleships were normally lined up in rows along Ford Island -- where the Japanese found them tightly packed during the attack.)
The Missouri sits about 300 yards from the Arizona. The Navy has given permission for the ship to remain there for three years, when it will be moved to another spot farther away, but still next to Ford Island.
The official Navy position is more congenial, noting that the Missouri, in conjunction with the Bowfin and the Arizona, is part of a rich historical experience.
For their part, Missouri supporters are hoping that in the end, given what is expected to be intense public interest, the Navy will leave the Missouri where it is.
"Look at the big guns," Tom Pinet, the Missouri's tour program manager, said. "The way they point, they're symbolically protecting the Arizona. The last thing we want in the world is to turn this into Disneyland. We all respect the Arizona."
The U.S. Park Service, which is in charge of the Arizona Memorial, is upbeat about the Missouri's arrival.
In a news release issued before the opening ceremonies, the Park Service noted that "each of the three (ships) are coming together to service a single critical purpose -- to sustain the rich history of this very special place -- the living history of Pearl Harbor."
Copyright © 2004, Knight-Ridder/Tribune (KRT)
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To: radu
CAKE!! Did someone mention cake? Is it yellowcake?
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posted on
02/29/2004 3:33:41 PM PST
by
Valin
(America is the land mine between barbarism and civilization.)
To: Valin
CAKE!! Did someone mention cake? Is it yellowcake? CHOK-LIT!!
The only thing glowing around FR are all the purty gurlz. *grin*
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posted on
02/29/2004 3:40:04 PM PST
by
radu
(May God watch over our troops and keep them safe)
To: SAMWolf
LOL!!!!!
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posted on
02/29/2004 5:46:40 PM PST
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Despite intense and violent criticism against the Passion, the public has spoken at the box office)
To: snippy_about_it
Hi Snippy!
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posted on
02/29/2004 5:47:03 PM PST
by
Victoria Delsoul
(Despite intense and violent criticism against the Passion, the public has spoken at the box office)
To: radu
Give you CHOK-LIT and nobody gets hurt! Right?
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; CholeraJoe; E.G.C.; Victoria Delsoul; colorado tanker; ...
The Arizona was sunk at the beginning of the U.S.-Japanese conflict, and it was aboard the Missouri that the Japanese signed the formal surrender ending World War II four years later. I like the image--this is my fallen brother whom I avenged.
The lesson for the world is don't start with us--you will not win.
My dad served on USS Saratoga (CV-3), one of millions of America's sons and daughters drawn into something larger than themselves.
For all of them, God Bless.
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posted on
02/29/2004 6:10:28 PM PST
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: PhilDragoo
I like the image--this is my fallen brother whom I avenged.Thank you. I've been trying to put this into words all day. The image is powerful. The Missourri should stay right where she is now.
To: PhilDragoo
The lesson for the world is don't start with us--you will not win.A lesson that our enemies have to keep re-learning.
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posted on
02/29/2004 6:29:30 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I even have boring dreams...I fall asleep in my sleep!)
To: PhilDragoo
Amen Phil. Thanks.
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posted on
02/29/2004 6:48:07 PM PST
by
snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!!
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posted on
03/01/2004 3:04:23 AM PST
by
E.G.C.
To: CholeraJoe; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Thanks for this nice thread. We're thinking of a Hawaii vacation too and this is at the top of the list. The hardhat tour is for me, but I think the short tour is probably for the rest of the family.
The fetching Mrs. Tanker suggested we rent Tora Tora Tora this weekend to show the family the background events for the Arizona memorial. She thought it dragged. I thought it was really tightly written, but then I was looking for historical details while she was looking for the big picture. So much better than the "Pearl Harbor" fiasco.
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posted on
03/01/2004 11:55:20 AM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: Valin; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
1960 JFK makes "missile gap" the Presidential campaign issue Which was a lie. But when Kruschev slipped most of the puny Soviet missile force into Cuba, JFK couldn't call the bluff because he would have to admit there never was a missile gap. NK played JFK like a violin.
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posted on
03/01/2004 11:59:35 AM PST
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colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: colorado tanker
IMHO "Tora,Tora,Tora" was the better picture
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posted on
03/01/2004 12:02:58 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I just blew $5000 on a reincarnation seminar. I figured, hey, you only live once.)
To: colorado tanker
The gift shop at the USS Arizona memorial had some really cool stuff including commemorative coins. I bought a USS Missouri t-shirt at the Missouri's gift shop.
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posted on
03/01/2004 12:06:34 PM PST
by
CholeraJoe
(Pararescue: Don't call 911, call 243.0. I'll rappel down headfirst if I have to.)
To: SAMWolf
When I saw they had Alec Baldwin trying to play Gen. Doolittle I just wanted to puke. The plot they grafted onto the story was really dumb too.
On the other hand the depiction of the actual attack was outstanding. Special effects have come a long way.
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posted on
03/01/2004 12:15:59 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: colorado tanker
When I saw they had Alec Baldwin trying to play Gen. Doolittle I just wanted to puke. Me Too, plus I had a hard time buying fighter pilots flying B-25's off a carrier a few months later.
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posted on
03/01/2004 12:20:28 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I just blew $5000 on a reincarnation seminar. I figured, hey, you only live once.)
To: CholeraJoe
I am really looking forward to a visit. Having the two ships together is interesting. From the solemnity of the Arizona, memorializing the lost lives at Pearl Harbor, to the symbol of the ultimate victory.
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posted on
03/01/2004 12:20:32 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: SAMWolf
ROTFLMAO! Great graphic!
Whaddya mean, Sam, isn't flying an airplane just like driving a car - once you've driven one, you can drive them all? :)
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posted on
03/01/2004 12:23:05 PM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: colorado tanker
isn't flying an airplane just like driving a car - once you've driven one, you can drive them all?Only in Hollywood. ;-)
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posted on
03/01/2004 12:25:52 PM PST
by
SAMWolf
(I just blew $5000 on a reincarnation seminar. I figured, hey, you only live once.)
To: SAMWolf
Me Too, plus I had a hard time buying fighter pilots flying B-25's off a carrier a few months later.Nevertheless, it happened. I was stationed at Eglin AFB, FL where the Doolittle Raiders trained as did the men from nearby Hurlburt Field for Desert 1. I attended USAF ROTC summer camp there in 1969. Army Rangers train there for water operations. We got to spend two days with the Rangers on the inflatable boats.
When I was stationed there in the early 80's, I had a party group out on my sailboat on the Santa Rosa sound and ran into the Ranger trainees and their instructors. The instructors appreciated the beers we tossed to them.
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posted on
03/01/2004 5:58:24 PM PST
by
CholeraJoe
(Pararescue: Don't call 911, call 243.0. I'll rappel down headfirst if I have to.)
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