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The FReeper Foxhole's TreadHead Tuesday - PanzerKampfwagen IV - Feb. 3rd, 2004
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Posted on 02/03/2004 12:00:11 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: PhilDragoo; Professional Engineer; SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Shameless plug
Oh, that big 1982 Siberian explosion?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1071087/posts
/shameless plug
201 posted on 02/03/2004 9:57:29 PM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: snippy_about_it
you will do a thread on those won't you? I need to understand the differences

Good idea.

The differences?
Short answer....money
202 posted on 02/03/2004 9:59:49 PM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: Valin
Short answer....money

Yep, Cheaper, bigger gun on same chassis and lower silhouette.

203 posted on 02/03/2004 10:03:02 PM PST by SAMWolf (Elevators smell different to midgets.)
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To: PhilDragoo
More PT Drill Sgt!!
204 posted on 02/03/2004 10:03:25 PM PST by SAMWolf (Elevators smell different to midgets.)
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To: SAMWolf
I COULD make a comment, but I have waaay too much class.


And on it's time for this buck-a-roo to head for the old bunkhouse.
205 posted on 02/03/2004 10:20:06 PM PST by Valin (Politicians are like diapers. They both need changing regularly and for the same reason.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; colorado tanker; E.G.C.; Victoria Delsoul; Light Speed; Darksheare; ...

Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf J of 111th Panzer Brigade, 2111th Panzer Abteilung, Staff Company, Lorraine, France in September of 1944.

In June of 1944, Ausf J, the final variant of Panzerkampfwagen IV tank family entered production as a replacement for Ausf H (10 Serie BW). Its production did not cease until March 1945 with 2970 produced solely by Nibelungenwerke and in small number by Vomag. This medium tank received a designation of Sd.Kfz.161/2. Chassis numbers for Ausf J were approx.86394 to 86573 and unknown to approx.89541.

achtungpanzer

Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf. J

As part of the German help during the summer of 1944, Finland bought 15 PzK IV Ausf. J tanks. Finland was supposed to receive 15 tanks per month - the end of hostilities with the Soviet Union and start of the Lapland War against the German troops ended deliveries. Only the first batch of 15 tanks was received - they saw no action against the Soviets, but they were used in the Lapland War against German forces.

PzKpfw. IV Ausf. G

Panzerkampfwagen IV Ausf G Sd Kfz 161/1 und 161/2

Shown is an early model G. Later models were equipped with "Schurzen" (side plates designed to help deflect hollow charge projectiles). This vehicle was known as the Maybach T-IV by the Bulgarians. 46 units were obtained, though in the book "Equipment and armor in the Bulgarian Army-Armored Vehicles 1935-45" by Kaloyan Matev, he says the number was 97.

Did somebody say "McPanzer"?

PanzerKampfwagen IV Ausf. A-J and more

I hate when that happens.

Panzerkampfwagen IV mit 7.5 cm L/48
Bovington Camp - Tankmuseum

M5A1 Stuart

M5A1 Stuart Light Tank, Serial Number 3887

1942 Stuart Tank (M5A1)

206 posted on 02/03/2004 10:39:21 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: Valin
LOL! Good Night Valin
207 posted on 02/03/2004 10:44:00 PM PST by SAMWolf (Elevators smell different to midgets.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.

I see you found a picture of a MK IV equipped with OstKetten (Extra wide tracks used in Russia).

The MK IV was a remarkable tank. Designed before the war it was able to be upgraded and the Chassis provide a basis for multiple other vehicles.
208 posted on 02/03/2004 10:49:53 PM PST by SAMWolf (Elevators smell different to midgets.)
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To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!!
209 posted on 02/04/2004 3:11:36 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: Valin
Short answer....money

Figures, it's always about the money!

210 posted on 02/04/2004 3:57:35 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: archy
Oh man. I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em run....

Sam says next time I visit he's going to make sure I watch this movie.

211 posted on 02/04/2004 3:59:32 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: SAMWolf
More PT Drill Sgt!!

tsk, tsk. LOL.

212 posted on 02/04/2004 4:01:37 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: PhilDragoo
The pics of the M51A you posted appear to be a perfect match. Thanks. Great pics and links to good sites. Look what I found at the Hussars site;


213 posted on 02/04/2004 4:07:48 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
BicycleSpankenTruppen, eh?
214 posted on 02/04/2004 7:37:06 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Spirit/Opportunity~0.002acres of sovereign US territory~All Your Mars Are Belong To USA)
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To: archy
THAT would have been an interesting engagement, to be sure.
215 posted on 02/04/2004 9:47:24 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: archy
Here's another...

I've always thought it would be fun to have one of these. I bet they're great in traffic!

216 posted on 02/04/2004 9:48:44 AM PST by PsyOp (Note to Jihadists: I profile and carry a gun.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Well, I like the other spakentruppen.
217 posted on 02/04/2004 9:54:32 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: colorado tanker
Well, I like the other spakentruppen.

Well that's good to hear!!! Actually these guys aren't my type. You know the Brits they just don't appear to, um....um...Well they just aren't manly looking enough imo! LOL.

218 posted on 02/04/2004 9:58:24 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Snippy, it's good to know you like manly, American, spankentruppen!
219 posted on 02/04/2004 10:03:49 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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To: archy
Oh man. I only ride 'em, I don't know what makes 'em run....

Everytime I hear the song "I've Been working on the railroad" I see those Shermans coming out of that tunnel.

Kelly's Heroes is definately one of the best WWII movies ever made.

220 posted on 02/04/2004 10:05:27 AM PST by PsyOp (Note to Jihadists: I profile and carry a gun.)
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