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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles Hobart's Funnies - January 9th, 2004
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Posted on 01/09/2004 2:31:28 AM PST by snippy_about_it



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for all those serving their country at this time.



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Hobart's Funnies


Necessity is the mother of invention, as the old saying goes; and in warfare, necessities can be urgent indeed. As a result, many technological innovations occur during wartime. The First World War brought us huge advances in aircraft design; the Second World War brought us atomic energy. But on a less grandiose scale, technical innovations occurred all the time in response to the immediate needs of the opposing forces..An article by Phil Llewellin in the June issue of Automobile Magazine recently brought some technical innovations that may not always have received their due: "Hobart's Funnies."

D-Day was the greatest amphibious operation in history. General Eisenhower's plan called for the Allies to put ashore 120,000 troops and 14,000 vehicles by the end of the first day. More than 6,000 vessels supported the assault.



Among the vehicles put ashore by the slab-sided landing craft were some of the strangest machines ever seen on a battlefield--and many of them had their genesis in an earlier raid whose name is all too familiar to Canadians: Dieppe.



In August, 1942, the Allies raided Dieppe with 6,000 troops and a force of Churchill tanks. They lost 3,500 men and most of their armor. One result of that disaster was further fortification of the French coast by the Germans, with steel and concrete obstacles designed to cripple landing craft, plus barbed wire, forts, pillboxes and huge, fortified artillery emplacements. But another result was a recognition by the Allies that they would need new, specialized kinds of armored fighting vehicles if they were to successfully invade France.



In March of 1943 Major General Sir Percy Hobart, who had commanded the famous British "Desert Rats" armored division in North Africa, was summoned to London to meet with General Sir Alan Brooke, Chief of the Imperial General Staff. Brooke wanted to raise a new armored division charged with developing, training and using a variety of special-purpose armored fighting vehicles to lead the Allies into France. Hobart was put in charge of Britain's 79th Armoured Division, devoted to that purpose.

When the Allies hit the beaches on D-Day, many of "Hobart's Funnies," as the products of the 79th Armoured Division were known, were also thrown into the fray.



One of the things Dieppe had made clear was that a landing craft big enough to carry nine tanks was also a dangerously inviting target for enemy gunners, offering them the opportunity to eliminate a large chunk of the invading force's armour with a single well-placed shell. For D-Day, the answer was to build a tank that could "swim" ashore after emerging from the landing craft at a relatively safe distance from the enemy. Tanks had been floated before, but conventional flotation devices wouldn't fit in the landing craft.

The new solution for D-Day was a nine-foot-high canvas screen attached to the vehicles hull with a waterproof seal. Air-filled rubber tubes and a simple metal frame gave it a boat-like shape--and also enabled the tank to float, just as you can make a brick float by putting it inside a floating bucket. The canvas walls took no more space than the tank did on the landing craft, could be raised in about 15 minutes, and too only seconds to lower once the tank hit the beach.



In addition to their treads, the "Duplex Drive" tanks had two propellers, driven by the main engines, which enabled them to glide through calm water at a brisk walking pace. Unfortunately, they were vulnerable to waves. The U.S. Army, for example, launched 64 floating Sherman tanks off Omaha Beach. Thirty-two of those were intended to support the First Infantry Division; all but five of them sank.



Hobart's 79th Armoured Division, however, had better luck: 33 of the 40 Churchill tanks they launched almost three miles offshore of Sword Beach reached the shore. The canvas hulls looked so harmless that no case was reported of anti-tank fire being directed at them while they were afloat. The amount of armour successfully landed was thus doubled over what might have been expected with traditional methods.

Many other of "Hobart's Funnies" were also modified Churchill AVRE tanks (AVRE stands for Armoured Vehicle Royal Engineers). One problem faced by armoured vehicles on the beaches of Normandy was areas of blue clay that could swallow vehicles. The solution was a device called the Bobbin: an enormous reel of course hessian cloth, reinforced with steel poles and carried on a frame at the front of the Churchill tank. As the tank advanced, the cloth unrolled beneath its treads, providing a relatively secure footing for itself and following tanks until combat engineers could provide a more permanent solution in the form of perforated steel plates.



Mines were exploded by tanks equipped with hefty chains that ended in fist-sized steel balls. The chains flailed the ground as the tank inched forward. These specially equipped tanks were known as "Crabs." The military still uses similar devices to explode mines: in the IMAX movie Fires of Kuwait, there's a scene of a mine being detonated by a remote-controlled device that also flails the ground with chains.



Among the defenses faced by the invaders were ramparts and ditches high and deep enough to stop tanks. But the Allies also had special machinery to overcome them, beginning with an armored bulldozer used to fill in craters and recover bogged-down machinery. Then there was the Fascine, a bundle of wooden poles about eight feet in diameter, lashed together with stout wires, sort of like really heavy-duty snow fencing. It rested on the front of a Churchill tank and could be released to bridge a ditch or form a step at the base of a wall. Unfortunately, it was so bulky it required the tank's commander to either operate blind or direct operations from the top of the bundle, not the place you wanted to be during a battle.



A more sophisticated solution was the Armored Ramp Carrier, built by, among others, the MG Car company. This was a turretless tank that had ramps attached to the front and rear that could be extended to almost fifty feet. . Other vehicles could roll up one set of ramps, across the flat top of the vehicle, and up the other set of ramps to scale all kinds of awkward obstacles, such as seawalls.



Finally, there was the SBG (Small Box Girder) assault bridge, a huge device transported on the nose of a tank that could be lowered to span gaps as much as 30 feet wide, and which could support loads of up to forty tons.



Not all of Hobart's Funnies were purely engineering-related. The most spectacular came along just after D-Day. Called the Crocodile, it was a Churchill tank whose machine gun was replaced with a flamethrower with a range of about 200 yards. The Crocodile pulled a trailer containing about 400 gallons of fuel.



The 79th Armoured Division eventually totalled almost 7,000 vehicles. It was disbanded on August 20, 1945, just five months after one of its amphibian vehicles carried Prime Minister Winston Churchill across the Rhine River. Field Marshall Montgomery wrote, "The record of the Division is unique and its contribution to the winning of the Campaign in northwest Europe incalculable."

Not bad for a bunch of "funnies."






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To: snippy_about_it
I'm pretty sure I'm way past you in age.

Well...I am young for my age.

101 posted on 01/09/2004 6:53:16 PM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: SAMWolf
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102 posted on 01/09/2004 6:56:46 PM PST by Samwise (There are other forces at work in this world, Frodo, besides the will of evil.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it
Evening both.

Ready for the weekend?

I'm ready to rumble! LOL!!!

103 posted on 01/09/2004 6:58:00 PM PST by Victoria Delsoul (Freedom isn't won by soundbites but by the unyielding determination and sacrifice given in its cause)
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To: Samwise
LOL!
104 posted on 01/09/2004 7:08:43 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Samwise
LMAO
105 posted on 01/09/2004 7:30:41 PM PST by Professional Engineer (The meek can have the Earth. I want the stars.)
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To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf; E.G.C.; Victoria Delsoul; Light Speed; Darksheare; colorado tanker; ...

Major General Sir Percy Hobart

"Now, for God's sake, double-oh-seven, when you hit the beach, don't shout, "I've got the flailing crabs!"

"On second thought, old man, it may just be the thing to put Gerry off his game."

A limited number of these auto-bisecting Churchills was delivered to the 79th.

The tank would approach an enemy bunker at speed, split at the centre, go round both sides, and reform at the rear.

Churchill carpet device sans carpet.

Churchill carpet device type TLC

Churchill carpet device Type A

Churchill carpet device Type B Mk1

Churchill carpet device Type C Mark2

Churchill crocodile

Wedge Donovan uses a bulldozer to take out some Japs in this film.

This IDF driver has the pedal to the metal--
--his intel says Arafat is in the privy dead ahead.

106 posted on 01/09/2004 8:26:24 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: snippy_about_it
So did you pick out a nice bookcase?
Yes, it comes next friday. 74x34x12 cherrywood. Of course it's already full1 What can I say, it's my one weakness...well that and chocolate covered cherries.
107 posted on 01/09/2004 8:33:33 PM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.

A limited number of these auto-bisecting Churchills was delivered to the 79th.

The tank would approach an enemy bunker at speed, split at the centre, go round both sides, and reform at the rear.

LOL. Now why didn't the Americans think of that?

108 posted on 01/09/2004 8:51:08 PM PST by SAMWolf (Ted Kennedy's Bumper Sticker: My other car is underwater.)
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To: PhilDragoo
"Now, for God's sake, double-oh-seven, when you hit the beach, don't shout, "I've got the flailing crabs!"

LOL. I swear Phil! I love your wit.

109 posted on 01/09/2004 9:15:45 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: Valin
oooh. Sounds nice. No glass doors to keep out the dust?
110 posted on 01/09/2004 9:16:39 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
No glass doors to keep out the dust?
One less thing to clean!
I don't DO windows. :-)
111 posted on 01/09/2004 9:28:31 PM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: Valin
I just figured with all the time spent on FR there is no time for reading. I know my books are gathering dust.
112 posted on 01/09/2004 9:29:47 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: PhilDragoo
BTTT!!!!!!
113 posted on 01/10/2004 3:13:41 AM PST by E.G.C.
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To: PhilDragoo; snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
"I've got the flailing crabs!"
Bad idea for a tagline bump.
114 posted on 01/10/2004 8:50:54 AM PST by Darksheare (Which would be better, an artificial mind for the guy.. or an artificial guy for the mind?)
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To: Darksheare
"I've got the flailing crabs!"
Bad idea for a tagline bump.

ROTFLMAO!!

115 posted on 01/10/2004 9:53:43 AM PST by SAMWolf (Ted Kennedy's Bumper Sticker: My other car is underwater.)
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To: SAMWolf
I didn't do it!
*Chuckle*
No, I'm NOT using it as a tagline.
Yet.
116 posted on 01/10/2004 10:31:59 AM PST by Darksheare (Which would be better, an artificial mind for the guy.. or an artificial guy for the mind?)
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To: Darksheare; PhilDragoo
LOL. Was that a great line by Phil or what!!! That'll be one I never forget.
117 posted on 01/10/2004 10:39:01 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
Yes, it was.
I'm not going to use it as a tagline.
Yet.
118 posted on 01/10/2004 10:43:35 AM PST by Darksheare (Which would be better, an artificial mind for the guy.. or an artificial guy for the mind?)
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To: Darksheare
LOL. Yet? Oh no, that could ruin your reputation. HA!
119 posted on 01/10/2004 10:53:26 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: snippy_about_it
What reputation?
*chuckle*
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Which would be better, an artificial mind for a guy.. or an artificial guy for the mind?
Tagline dispenser. Insert quarter. [[|] Mash button. [button] Enjoy.
Crimes against children are crimes against the soul
120 posted on 01/10/2004 11:08:02 AM PST by Darksheare (Which would be better, an artificial mind for the guy.. or an artificial guy for the mind?)
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