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The FReeper Foxhole Remembers AFC John Levitow & The Saving of Spooky 71(2/24/1969) - Jan. 7th, 2004
www.mishalov.com ^ | John L. Frisbee, Contributing Editor

Posted on 01/07/2004 12:00:20 AM PST by SAMWolf

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To: AntiJen
Hi Jen, we haven't talked in a while. We need to get a Georgia get together going sometime in March maybe.
121 posted on 01/07/2004 8:14:33 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
That sounds good! There are many FReepers in the metro Atlanta area. I met several of them when we FReeped Cynthia McKinney - and helped oust her looney butt from Congress. Do you have a date/event in mind for March? How about a hot tub and Margaritas party at my house??? hahahahaha FReepmail me with info - so we don't hijack this thread too much. (Sorry Sam, Snippy)
122 posted on 01/07/2004 8:19:20 PM PST by Jen ($upport FreeRepublic!)
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To: U S Army EOD
While I was at Long Bien in 1972,

Bad security I can believe it.


The guy who found them is a story in himself. Everywhere this guy seemed to go in Vietnam the VC seemed to be


Sounds like he was a Fearless Fosdick.
123 posted on 01/07/2004 8:23:55 PM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
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To: AntiJen
Thanks Jen. Good to see you.
124 posted on 01/07/2004 8:23:59 PM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Thanks man. I meant to ask what a WP round was earlier, but wrok got in the way.
125 posted on 01/07/2004 8:36:22 PM PST by Professional Engineer (The meek can have the Earth. I want the stars.)
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To: Professional Engineer
White Phorphorus, it burns on contact with air and you can't put it out. Really nasty stuff. I have had a lot of bad experiences with it.
126 posted on 01/07/2004 8:38:31 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: AntiJen
Awww shucks ma'am.

Glad to make your aquaintance.
127 posted on 01/07/2004 8:40:48 PM PST by Professional Engineer (The meek can have the Earth. I want the stars.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Aha. Yeeesh. No wonder you were glad it got swiped.
128 posted on 01/07/2004 8:45:04 PM PST by Professional Engineer (The meek can have the Earth. I want the stars.)
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To: Professional Engineer
No the kid didn't steal it, he noticed it burning on a pile of 1,500 pounds of explosives. There were 12 other shots the same size next to it. He jumped into the crater with it, picked it up, and carried it out burning and threw it into another crater full of water. His quick thinking and heroic action saved the lives of probably my entire unit and other kids on the range that day.

These kids used to help us unload explosives from the trucks. He was only about 12 years old and used to keep the other kids in check for us. One of the bravest things I have every saw in my life.

After it was all over it was the first time I saw him show emotion, he started to shake and cry because he knew what it could have done to him at any time.

Inside the WP shell is a burster that could have cooked off and exploded at anytime covering him with burning WP. If you saw the movie, "We Were Soldiers", that is what was one the guys face the grenade got they had to cut off with a knife.
129 posted on 01/07/2004 8:53:47 PM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Yikes. Now the wanting to find and thank him becomes clear. Holy cow.
130 posted on 01/07/2004 9:14:06 PM PST by Professional Engineer (The meek can have the Earth. I want the stars.)
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To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Darksheare; Light Speed

Time delay photo of a night time fire mission of a Puff (The Magic Dragon) around Saigon.
The red lines are tracer rounds and there are 5 bullets between each tracer round.

Another view of a mini-gun firing from the door way of a "Spooky" AC-47.

AC 47 at work...

This is a time exposure of the plane making two circles and firing its mini guns and dropping flares.
I took this pic from the MACV team 21 compound.

Aero Heritage Museum of Burleson TX has restored the world's most famous AC-47/DC-3
from the famed Spooky Squadron that veterans affectionately call "Puff" the Magic Dragon.

AC-47 Mini Guns

Neighbors' stereo too loud? Daughter's boyfriend need an attitude adjustment?
Perhaps your supervisor at the Post Office has lost that lovin' feelin'--
Relief is spelled M-I-N-I-G-U-N!
Call now! Operators are standing by!
1-800-MINIGUN--
Leave Viagra to the losers.

Side view of minigun--high resolution

Rear view of minigun--high resolution

GAU-2B/A - Air Force || GAU-17/A - Navy || M134 - Army

MK-24 PARACHUTE FLARES

1. General:

a. The MK-24 parachute flare is being used extensively on a wide variety of missions in Southeast Asia . A-26's, C-47's, C-123's, and C-130's, as well as various fighter aircraft, are employed as dispensing aircraft and the missions range from "on call" defenses of besieged hamlets/forts, to armed route reconnaissance for vehicular traffic, to normal pre-planned strikes against static targets. Initially, flare reliability was very poor and there were a large number of duds. This was attributed primarily to the use of old flares, as well as the fact that, through necessity, personnel unfamiliar with safe munitions handling procedures were enlisted to prepare and dispense the flares ("flare-kickers") from cargo type aircraft. As personnel have become better trained and newer flares have come into use, this high dud rate has steadily decreased; however, there is still much room for improvement. The purpose of this bulletin is to provide users with a general summary of MK-24 flare handling, loading and dispensing procedures (applicable to all cargo aircraft) that may be used as a lesson guide for training purposes, as well as appropriate checklists (Atch 1). (A follow-on bulletin will be published in the near future covering more specific in-flight normal and emergency flare procedures for each type cargo aircraft.) This bulletin is oriented primarily toward the MK-24, Mod 3, flare since it is the model predominantly in use.

b. Specific storage, handling and inspection procedures for aircraft parachute flares are contained in T. 0. 11A10-1-177 and 11A10-19-7. These tech orders are currently being consolidated and revised by OOAMA. More specific data relevant to environmental effects of temperature, humidity, and shock have been requested to be included in the revised tech order.

c. All personnel engaged directly or indirectly in operations with MK-24 flares should be thoroughly trained in explosive safety and capable of recognizing hazards associated therewith. The safety requirements of AFM 127-100 must be complied with.

2. Description:

a. The MK-24 series aircraft parachute flares are incendiary illumination stores designed to be carried and dropped from any aircraft. The flare consists of a cylindrical aluminum case containing an ejection fuze assembly, an ignition fuze assembly, an illuminant charge (candle), and a parachute assembly. The ejection and ignition fuze assemblies contain time-delay mecha­nisms which may be adjusted for delay times of 5 to 30 seconds. (The five (5) second delay setting on the ignition fuze of MK-24 flares has been eliminated and should never be used. Production acceptance testing has indicated a high frequency of failures or duds when using this setting. The failures at this setting were the result of the firing pin not consistently impacting into the safety time fuze, causing failure to ignite. Reference OOAMA Message OOYIC 20656 Jul 66.) Dials for setting the time delay mechanisms are on the face of the flare (Atch 2)., A thumb screw on the face of the flare prevents inadvertent movement of the time-delay mechanisms. In addition to the thumb screw, the MK-24 Mod 3 flare has a safety pin inserted through the ignition set dial assembly to prevent lanyard movement if lanyard is accidentally pulled.

b. MK-24 characteristics:

Mod 1 Mod 2 Mod 3

Weight (lbs) 24 24 27

Burning time (sec) 150 150

180 Release Speed (Knots) Max) *450 *450 *450

Release altitude (Feet) See Table 1.

Diameter (inches) 4.874 4.874 4.874

Length (inches) 36.003 35.994 35.994

Candle power (avg) 2,000,000 2,000,000 2,000,000

Ignition delay (Min-Max) (Sec) 10 - 30 10 - 30 10 - 30

Ejection (Min-Max) (Sec) 5 - 30 5 - 30 5 - 30

*Maximum tested values. Launching speeds greater than 450 knots may be possible if ejection cartridge launching is not used.

c. The sequence of setting the ejection and ignition delay settings differ on the MK-24 Mod l, Mod 2, and the MK-24 Mod 3 flares. On the Mod 1 and Mod 2, the ignition set dial is set first and then the ejection set dial. When setting the flares back to "SAFE", the ignition set dial is set first on the MK-24 Mod 1 and 2 flares.

d. When released the flare falls, causing a twelve-pound pull on the lanyard, which activates the ejection fuze assembly. The lanyard separates from the flare when pulled with a 50-pound force. The flare, less lanyard, then free falls for the length of time set on the ejection fuze setting. The rate of fall is approximately 300 feet during the first five seconds, 700 feet during the next five seconds, and 1,000 feet for each five seconds thereafter. After elapse of the time set on the ejection fuze, the ejection time delay fuze ignites an ejection disc. The ejection disc initiates the ignition fuze and expels the ignition fuze, candle assembly and the para­chute assembly from the outer container. Upon clearing the outer tube the split container falls away, allowing the parachute to open and suspend the ignition fuze and candle assembly. The suspended ignition fuze and candle assembly then descend at a rate of 15 feet per second. After the preset time of the ignition fuze, the ignition time delay fuze activates a transfer disc which initiates an ignition disc that ignites the candle, causing the separation of the ignition fuze assembly from the candle assembly, The suspended candle assembly falls approximately 7.5 feet per second and pro­duces a minimum average of 1,650,000 candle power. Average burning times are 150 seconds for Mods 1, 2, and 2A, and 180 seconds for Mod 3 flares

e. Safe launching height and distances are dependent upon the burning time, fuze settings, rate of descent, and drift of the flare. Such factors must be considered in determining minimum height and distances of release, Determination of release height and fuze settings can be made by use of the, following Table:

TABLE 1

MINIMUM LAUNCHING HEIGHT ABOVE GROUND LEVEL TO PROVIDE FLARE BURN OUT

EJECTION FUZE SETTINGS 5 10 15 20 25 330

LAUNCH ALTITUDE (Mods 1,2,2A) 1800' 2500' 3500' 4500' 5500' 6500'

LAUNCH ALTITUDE (Mod 3) 2050' 2750' 3750' 4750' 5750’ 6750’

NOTE: For each 5-second delay on ignition fuze setting, add 75 feet to above values.

3. Storage: The manner in which flares are stored, both on the ground and in the air, has a direct bearing on their reliability. The following requirements should be observed:

a. Keep weather cap in place during storage, handling and shipment. It, must not be removed until immediately before setting fuzes. This assures against accidental moving of the delay dials from the "safe" position or fouling the lanyard, which if pulled could cause the flare to become non-functional.

b. Keep ejection set dial on "SAFE" at all times during shipping, storage and handling

c. Protect flares from moisture. (Pyrotechnic material that has become wet is hazardous to store.)

d. Protect flares from heat. Store at less then 1000 F. Keep magazine or flare aircraft well ventilated. (Flares stored at temperatures exceeding, 100 degrees may be unreliable.)

e. Flares should be stored in magazine or aircraft flare box, by lot number (malfunctioning flares from dispenser could thus be related to a specific lot.)

Aircommando.com

Up close and personal--high resolution

From AC-130 Spectre Gunship Photo Gallery

"Sgt. Rodatz, those insurgents are burning our flag."

"Sgt. Celis, I roger that--pass the 105 ammo."

A single application of Schmuck-B-Gone. . . .

131 posted on 01/07/2004 9:41:14 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: PhilDragoo
Evening Phil Dragoo.

Neighbors' stereo too loud? Daughter's boyfriend need an attitude adjustment?
Perhaps your supervisor at the Post Office has lost that lovin' feelin'--
Relief is spelled M-I-N-I-G-U-N!
Call now! Operators are standing by!
1-800-MINIGUN--
Leave Viagra to the losers.

LOL! Work on in-laws too?

Love the last series of schmuck-be-gone photos.

Thanks for all the info on the Minigun and the flares.

132 posted on 01/07/2004 9:55:22 PM PST by SAMWolf (Cats know how we feel. They don't give a damn, but they know.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Yeah.
Three mini's churning out several thousand rounds a minute would ruin yer day..
*Chuckle*
I love the pics of their work, it's interesting to see.
133 posted on 01/08/2004 6:13:21 AM PST by Darksheare (This tagline deleted by AdMinimum Monsterator)
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To: Darksheare
AC119's had four, another 6000 rounds to make a bad day even worse.
134 posted on 01/08/2004 6:23:46 AM PST by U S Army EOD (When the EOD technician screws up, he is always the first to notice.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Four?
COOL!
(When I was in uniform in artillery, I'd wanted vehicle mounted miniguns for Advance Party -just in case.)
135 posted on 01/08/2004 6:46:57 AM PST by Darksheare (Tagline dispenser. Insert quarter. [[|] Mash button. [button] Enjoy.)
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To: U S Army EOD
Would you tell me about that?
136 posted on 01/08/2004 8:05:29 AM PST by Central_Floridian (For Faith and Freedom)
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To: U S Army EOD
You mean your cats don't bring you dead snakes, rats, and birds?

Our cats? Are you kidding. We got a field mouse in the house this fall. After a couple of weeks I gave up on the cats and trapped him myself. They seem to have missed out on the hunter gene!

137 posted on 01/08/2004 8:59:44 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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